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    Re: I Get Confused...

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Growing up in a neighborhood where I stuck out like a sore thumb was my first wake up call to reality of this world. I was a young lad and since then I have been questioning everything about what is taught of this world. While I was a consistent student that always did my work and earned very good grades I did not dispose of my distrust for what I was being taught.

    Everyday after school I would see how adults interacted each other in line at the bank with my parents or at the post office. What I saw was a world of agony, agitation, impatience, and despair. I wondered how could adults free from the school system feel trapped while us kids were so happy?

    Some would say responsibility but now as an adult I do handle responsibility. But I do not have that type of agony, agitation, impatience or despair that I saw in those adults long ago and this day.

    Confusing is a powerful tool to keep people unaware of their options, their choices in their lives, and personal sovereignty. Once the fog of confusion is no more the world is literally a playground for an adult that has mastered reading between the lines.

    A business that doesn't deliver the results I want? Bye. A family member that crosses the line? I let them know or I make sure to let other family members know they are toxic. Finding the best deal possible for some landscaping? Turning over every rock I can and taking the best offer.
    So much of what you say here resonates with me it's a bit uncanny.

    While it took a little longer for me to question what I was being taught I got there eventually. Most of my classes were science based, but certainly with subjects like history and literature I often wondered if I was being fed perceptions rather than information.

    I also wondered why adults would get so annoyed at having to do things that had to be done. My mother was what was in my day called a housewife, today it would probably be called a homebuilder, Pfaw. She would drag me into town with her (when school was out) and while she stood in queues at the bank or post office she would complain for the 5 minutes it took to get to the counter as if she had something more important to do - for 5 minutes - really?

    As for mastering reading between the lines, I think I'm nearly there but not really there. I do see much of what is going on around me through dispassionate eyes and yet I don't believe I can see everything. There just seems to be so much happening at once that I can't take all of it in. However I do not see this as a drawback, just more opportunity to learn.
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    Re: I Get Confused...

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    With all due respect, the flirting you speak of is simply a form of manipulation, and again with all due respect, it sounds like you're only too happy to oblige and aid the female in her manipulation tactics.

    No one is saying you shouldn't have female company, or even dating. MGTOW doesn't really prescribe ethics in that way. MGTOW is imply describing the fact that if a woman is flirting with you and it doesn't end up with sex; it is a form of manipulation. Now you may say, 'well I'll play along' which is fine but at least be aware of what is actually happening.
    I assure you I'm totally aware of what's happening. It's a game they like to play and I like to play along just to see where they're coming from and how they try to manipulate us. Because I'm in my 50's and living in Ireland most of the women I interact with aren't online as such. They may skype the odd family member or watch youtube but that's it. No facebook, twitter or whatever. They're old school and not really part of the new feminazi movement. I just find it interesting to compare tactics between what I observe in real life and what I see on the media.
    I again state I have absolutely no interest in dating, I just find the repartee entertaining.

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    Re: I Get Confused...

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I gave and gave and gave until I had no more to give and fell on hard times, and to many of those I gave, all I got in time of need was CRICKETS!
    This is so true of my own experience. When I was wounded few of my so-called friends rallied around to show support, instead they were notable only by their absence.


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