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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Yep, they're Totalitarians... you can't even think what you want. And they're winning, right up until it all comes crashing down. Kinda like Rorschach said in Watchmen...

    They will scream up to me: SAVE US!
    And I will whisper back: No.
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    I agree with the other who've stated that it's all about control. The idea is to control anything+everything men do.

    But a darker side of control is subjugation. Women want men under their jackboots. They view them as nothing more than useful (and inferior) life forms, exactly the same way the Nazis -- and the "closet Nazis" that sill exist in some parts of Western Europe -- viewed and still view Jews. They view men as things with resources to drain for their own security and amusement, and then to dispose of before moving on to their next victims.

    As more and more men wise up to this conspiracy, fewer and fewer will marry and have children. Societies will age, fewer and fewer people will be around to work, and their economies will stagnate and eventually collapse. This will be a snowball process, because who wants to start a family in a country that's already well on its way to the dumpster? That will mean less and less young, employable people, which will accelerate the decay, because those would've been the ones to start families and keep the societal framework viable.

    In parallel with this, foreigners with far different moral codes will begin to flow in, either by purchase (e.g. the Chinese with its staggering trade surplus), by "soft invasion" (e.g. Mexican and middle-eastern invaders conquering the United States), or by direct assault the same way Nazi Germany invaded Poland.

    Terrible, terrible things are going to happen to individuals during that time. Which sex is going to get scuffed up worse as this process unfolds? Take a guess. I guarantee that "hate speech," for example, which is nothing more than truth that women prefer not to hear, will quickly fall off their list of top concerns. Same thing for "safe spaces," sex-neutral pronouns, and the rights of homosexuals and lesbians and people who undergo surgical mutilation to attempt to look like the opposite sex. None of that will be even a blip on the radar of someone's daily priorities. There will be far more-urgent matters to attend to.

    Some of us are safe, and some are not, depending on individual age. Those 40 years old and under are going to be in for a rough ride in their senior years, I'm sorry to say.

    The effects of today's actions can be disastrous down the road. That's my point.
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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Leaving male sexuality to one side for the moment, whammins are upset about sex-bots, pornography and so forth simply because it is cheaper or free.

    I live in London, and most of the women I meet are very attractive. With a bit of make up and some squats, even a below average cunts can look good, but she cannot sell her product. Simple because if whammins manipulate, a man can end the date immediately, go home and masturbate, or purchase a sex doll, or pay for an escort.

    Whammins are upset because the price of pussy is tumbling, that's all.

    They will come after pornogrpahy and sex-bots; IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING!!

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Quote Originally Posted by African-Daoist View Post
    First off, I don't know anything that is more human than sexual intercourse, I think as a defining trait dolphins are ranked second to humans in our recreational use of sex. So it does seem that its actually a defining trait of humanity to have sex and hence it can't be considered otherwise.
    I hear the bonobos are pretty frisky animals, ha.

    Is intercourse more human of us than anything else that we do? More human than... what? Since all species have intercourse, what do humans do that other species do not? Could it be those things that make us more human? Perhaps sexual intercourse make us more animalistic? By extension, are we less uniquely human for having sex simply because all species do it? Does sexual intercourse itself dehumanize us? Grunt, grunt, snort, snort, etc.

    I know we humans exalt sexual intercourse. Or is exalt the right word?

    Secondly, they come from some sort of perch of moral superiority by claiming such things are reprehensible if it gives pleasure to men but alright if its a woman getting her rocks off....seems like a double standard to me.
    It quacks like one, and therefore it is. You bet, always a double standard. Women are all about double standards. For all of their complaining, when in all the years of my life has even one woman raised the toilet seat in anticipation of me? Even just once?

    Hence, I have come to the only rational conclusion that is possible to arrive at from the observations made and that is the reality that their goal is not to prevent women from being dehumanised (as that is evidently a none argument) rather it is to control male sexuality, its expression and consequently male sovereignty. What do you guys think I know I didn't do a complete job so would love to see your perspectives.
    I agree, women want to control men's expression. Sexual, mental, emotional, you pick the category, they want to control it. They are unwise and stupid and cannot help themselves. I sound rotten, but hey, women will let anything leave their lips. After all, they suck at engineering, and that includes engineering their own thoughts.

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Quote Originally Posted by African-Daoist View Post
    A good example is how lions can mate several times in a day, does that then make the lioness any less a feline?


    Several times in a day?!? Man, I need to get more red meat into my diet, or something.
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    Several times in a day?!? Man, I need to get more red meat into my diet, or something.
    Lol .Yeah, from what I've read even up to 100 times a day but they blow their load quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by African-Daoist View Post
    Lol .Yeah, from what I've read even up to 100 times a day but they blow their load quickly.
    Human males with naturally high testosterone blow their load quickly too .

    What a fucking shame
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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Hi African Daoist. Ur conclusion is spot on. It's all about controlling men. In fact I would call it misandry.

    Take this whole TERFS debate. They support females becoming men but are against men becoming women. Why? Only conclusion is to limit the sexual options for men

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Quote Originally Posted by devilcomeknockin View Post
    Yep, they're Totalitarians... you can't even think what you want. And they're winning, right up until it all comes crashing down. Kinda like Rorschach said in Watchmen...

    They will scream up to me: SAVE US!
    And I will whisper back: HELL NO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porkncheese View Post
    Hi African Daoist. Ur conclusion is spot on. It's all about controlling men. In fact I would call it misandry.

    Take this whole TERFS debate. They support females becoming men but are against men becoming women. Why? Only conclusion is to limit the sexual options for men
    Hi porkncheese, that seems to be another branch I neglected to mention and it is quite relevant. Personally ,I would not consider someone to be of their claimed sex except they have the plumbing to match.

    I am ready to respect anyone's pronouns so long as they can match reality but I guess thats unreasonable.

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Human males with naturally high testosterone blow their load quickly too .

    What a fucking shame
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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    I have read somewhere on internet (I will find it if needed) that the moralization about sexuality, atleast in some cultures is also there to, among other reasons, prevent women from stealing from men.

    From my understanding of whatever written there, the reasoning goes like this. Imagine ancient/medieval scenario where there are less means of abortion or detection of pregnancy. But hypergamy is still there, men are still the "providers" and "protectors" of the family.

    Now within a traditional couple, if the man cheats and gets some woman pregnant, he can come back to his home and never bother about baby (again, I am assuming a certain lawlessness and under developed/ancient society). In this scenario, nothing is stolen from the wife. Her resources still go entirely to her children in the family.

    But if the wife cheats and gets pregnant, and assuming there is no other causes of suspicion by the husband, the child will be cared for by the resources of the family. The wife still gets all her resources spent on her own children, whereas for the husband, he is being stolen from. He never agreed to provide for anyone other than his wife and his own children, and yet he will end up doing so.

    Again, not denying that there are hundreds of ways by which society tries to control men and their lives, its just this particular line of reasoning suggests that in this case, he is being protected.

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    We need to lead by example. When dealing with women, ignore them as if they are sub-human. Just giving them attention elevates them from their natural roles. And, we need to get better at using the word ďnoĒ. If more men started doing this in front of other men, some of the other men might start to grow hair on their balls...And who cares if the woman pouts, shreiks, and stomps her feet?

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    Well, I can't agree that treating women as if they "sub-human" is a good move. For one thing, that's how they treat us, as disposable livestock; and for another, it fits directly into their chosen zeitgeist, that ALL MEN view ALL WOMEN as sub-human beasts. Regardless of the fact that the world is *teeming* with white-knights on beck and call at all times. They don't notice the white-knights, because hypergamy categorizes them as a strange form of "non-male"... A sterile being, that just kinda happens to be there (at their beck and call) but it's not like we're... a... A Man! (Chad)

    I know this is specifically true because an old friend of mine, who I detailed in that post "Hypergamy ruined my friend's life", once reacted to a pic I put on Myspace by saying "Wow! I mean... I kinda never noticed before.. I mean, I guess I always just thought of you as, know.. a guy.. But damn!! You are nothing but pure MAN in this pic!"

    So for all those years of being friends, I was never classed as A Man (fuckable) until that pic. Instead, women (as a loose group) project their angst towards Chadbux onto every man around them, while still wishing for ChadKnight to come sweep them away to ChadCastle and blah blah blah...

    But therein lies the problem. Men are being dehumanized in exactly the way that you stated: Treated as a non-human utility. According to the feminists that would even acknowledge this, they see it as "our turn to suffer"... Only the rarest of feminists honestly prefer the idea of "Nobody gets dehumanized"... But to just try and turn it backward is the very essence of what they are doing. So I can't get behind that, on a categorical scale.... or "class basis" as the intersectionalists would call it.

    Ultimately, we only have power over our own lives and relationships with other people. I don't view women as subhuman, I view them as distressingly human. To regard them as anything less allows them to pull the same civilization-scale hookwink that has been going on for the last few centuries...
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    But to just try and turn it backward is the very essence of what they are doing. So I can't get behind that, on a categorical scale.... or "class basis" as the intersectionalists would call it.
    And what is wrong with fighting fire with fire? Women have always treated men as a disposable entity. 'Someone' that 'does' something and when the need is gone; they are disposed of.

    If a man wants to 'ignore women' as if they were 'sub-human' well then that is his free choice and he is more than entitled to hold on to this view.

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    And what is wrong with fighting fire with fire? Women have always treated men as a disposable entity. 'Someone' that 'does' something and when the need is gone; they are disposed of.

    If a man wants to 'ignore women' as if they were 'sub-human' well then that is his free choice and he is more than entitled to hold on to this view.

    Yeah lol I’m not trying to fix shit anymore...That’s how I ended up here to begin with...

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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Quote Originally Posted by Malinois View Post
    Yeah lol I’m not trying to fix shit anymore...That’s how I ended up here to begin with...
    Even as MGTOW we dont really fully understand women .

    We do not walk thinking that every hot chick literally thinks about any man - its my slave . Which they do . Not all . But they do .

    ( my local reality show participant that crashed out on the very first episode , a former fatty turn Kim Kardashian , posted this short video on Insta how she is in the electro store in London looking for a new TV and then some guy carries it for her to her car . And she says - i found myself a slave to carry it for me ( not in english ) ... The dude of course couldn understand the language and was smiling ...He was not from the store staff )

    And she is a likable person overall ...
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    Re: Claim of dehumanising

    Yeah lol I’m not trying to fix shit anymore...That’s how I ended up here to begin with...
    I have always felt that when something is wrong, it is my fault and therefore I am responsible for 'fixing' it. MGTOW gives you license to ask 'if I do x action, what is the value added to my life from it?'

    And such a question does not even arise for the average man, simply because, as I have mentioned earlier, when you refuse to bow down to a cunt and wilfully ignore her, you are not only going against aeons and aeons of evolutionary instinct to protect and provide but also deep deep brainwashing by maternal and societal manipulation.


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