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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    "All gods are home made and it is we who pull their strings, and so, give them the power to pull ours".

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    Your interpretation of the Bible is personal to you and unique to you and some interpret it more literally than others.

    I am athiest but Imagine there are some truths and life lessons in the bible but soemone of low character will always cherry pick the parts that suite their agenda and it seem to me that the church in all it's denomination around the world is full of clergy that are not of the best character along with many who probably are.


    If you look into "the troubles" in Northern Ireland in depth and trace it back to it's origins the level of hypocracy and hatred and display of low morals on both sides is a disgrace.

    People stoning children on their way to school by grown men (both protestant and catholic were guilty of this).

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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete View Post
    As GregBo is aware one reason (of many) that I finally stopped going to my church was that a woman---at the podium decided to edit out parts of the Word of God that she found politically inconvenient. The priest not only failed to administer correction immediately but let it pass unanswered. That was it the last straw for me.
    Same here.
    I quit going to church when the weemins were allowed to preach and the others got as much say in the church as the men.

    "For God is not a God of disorder, but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints,women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak,but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.…"

    Plus, I wasn't going to church to hear a woeman speak. I was going to church to have church with other men, friends, not some Suzie Q Public who overlooks that there are men in the church as well.
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    You know what would revitalize the RC church? Not just an end to priestly celibacy, but an outright requirement that a priest should be married (by the time you are old enough to be a full priest), never divorced, and not married to a previously divorced woman. And none of this "annulment" (wink wink, nod nod) bullshit.

    Shit: a requirement that the priest have at least one DNA-confirmed kid to his wife before being permitted to administer the sacraments would be a fine idea, too. Annulments for infertile couples ok in this instance.

    The, the litmus test for churches is Matt 5:32:
    But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
    The words of Jesus himself. The living word. God in the flesh. Marriage is a one-and-done issue for women. There is no such thing as divorce, only (at most) permanent separation: the woman is not free to remarry. Any church that marries previously divorced women is a church that doesn't really believe that Jesus is the son of God.

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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    You know what would revitalize the RC church? Not just an end to priestly celibacy, but an outright requirement that a priest should be married (by the time you are old enough to be a full priest), never divorced, and not married to a previously divorced woman. And none of this "annulment" (wink wink, nod nod) bullshit.

    Shit: a requirement that the priest have at least one DNA-confirmed kid to his wife before being permitted to administer the sacraments would be a fine idea, too. Annulments for infertile couples ok in this instance.

    The, the litmus test for churches is Matt 5:32:


    The words of Jesus himself. The living word. God in the flesh. Marriage is a one-and-done issue for women. There is no such thing as divorce, only (at most) permanent separation: the woman is not free to remarry. Any church that marries previously divorced women is a church that doesn't really believe that Jesus is the son of God.
    Amen to that.
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    I think that in some way... the Church's view on marriage and such can now be summed up in just one word..... obsolete.
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    I think that in some way... the Church's view on marriage and such can now be summed up in just one word..... obsolete.
    The church's view is obsolete? To whom? Not to the church, certainly. Are you sure that you aren't just trying to express a perception that marriage has lost a measure of societal support from earlier times?

    There still are a boatload of people who believe in the institution of marriage. It's still practiced everywhere and is far from obsolete. You wouldn't agree?
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Pope Francis is the worst globalist & muslim apologist shill yet. I'd certainly love to see the catholic church fall, but it aint happening yet.
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    It may be none of my business but I note Itsallbs is now banned? When did that happen? And why?

    If my question is over the line just let me know.

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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    It say in banned members it was requested by it'sallbs.

    Good luck to ya it'sallbs.
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    For some reason he has asked to be deleted from the TIM site...twice but he has returned and I spoke to him today on Zoom he seems to be doing OK.

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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    You know what would revitalize the RC church? Not just an end to priestly celibacy, but an outright requirement that a priest should be married (by the time you are old enough to be a full priest), never divorced, and not married to a previously divorced woman. And none of this "annulment" (wink wink, nod nod) bullshit.

    Shit: a requirement that the priest have at least one DNA-confirmed kid to his wife before being permitted to administer the sacraments would be a fine idea, too. Annulments for infertile couples ok in this instance.

    The, the litmus test for churches is Matt 5:32:


    The words of Jesus himself. The living word. God in the flesh. Marriage is a one-and-done issue for women. There is no such thing as divorce, only (at most) permanent separation: the woman is not free to remarry. Any church that marries previously divorced women is a church that doesn't really believe that Jesus is the son of God.
    You speak the truth. God bless you. And this is from a practicing but truthfully not as devout RCC layman

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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Well, forcing "until death do us part" instead will put a dent in the flock, so I can see the reasoning behind ignoring their own tenets. Convenient...
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    The church's view is obsolete? To whom? Not to the church, certainly. Are you sure that you aren't just trying to express a perception that marriage has lost a measure of societal support from earlier times?
    more like that their view doesnt work like its supposed to.... I guess a more accurate term would be "functionally obsolete"... marriage just isn't necessary anymore since women now have considerably more life options than they did just over a century ago...

    as for those who think marriage still means something.... they are rare... maybe a bit TOO rare...
    (sure my parents still think that... but they come from a whole other era..)
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Eiji is right on point. Marriage is obsolete because women do not need it in order to gain resources--daddy government providing resources to women means women don't need to try and snag a man, as a result they don't have to be nice or attractive. Unless a man has MORE resources than can be had from the government then a woman might choose marriage. Remember men can get married all day all night but if women don't then it doesn't happen. So if marriage is obsolete it is the result of women killing it off.

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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    Pope Francis is the worst globalist & muslim apologist shill yet. I'd certainly love to see the catholic church fall, but it aint happening yet.
    He is Jewish if you let me just guess ?
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    He is Jewish if you let me just guess ?
    Just a shabbos goy and alleged jesuit.
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    Re: Is the Catholic Church done?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    Just a shabbos goy and alleged jesuit.
    Oh , not jewish at all . At all , at all
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