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    Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    "(Former hedge fund manager) Buddy Fletcher is so broke he can’t afford his divorce from Ellen Pao, The Post has learned. The former high-flying hedge fund manager — who once rubbed elbows with Lauren Bacall and Roberta Flack — has no lawyer and is representing himself in a divorce from Pao, the former interim CEO of Reddit. He claims in court papers that the divorce, which is ongoing, left him “homeless” at one point, including a period of living in his car.The couple — known as much for Pao’s Silicon Valley gender discrimination claims as Fletcher’s financial downfall — have been slowly working toward dissolution of their marriage in San Francisco state court since 2017, but they appear no closer to the end than they did two years ago.

    One reason may be that Fletcher keeps making requests for financial assistance, including hard-fought efforts to squash his 2007 pre-nup with Pao, which a judge denied, and repeated requests for spousal support.
    And at a court hearing Thursday, the former head of Fletcher Asset Management launched into an impromptu speech about his need for financial support to help a witness get to court to testify — and for a lawyer to finalize the separation . . . "
    https://nypost.com/2019/08/16/buddy-...-and-acrimony/

    Comments: "You may or may not want an affirmative action mail handler, school administrator or other paper pusher. But you definitely don't want an affirmative action president, doctor or fund manager. What surprises here is that an ostensibly intelligent woman like Ellen Pao latched on to an affirmative action huckster like Buddy Fletcher. " "Headline” Loser losing loser"

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    Pure schadenfreude.

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    Pure schadenfreude.
    Ich auch.

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    Blah blah blah race this, race that. A lot of MGTOWs don't really support other men; they support men of the same race only- in which case, Stormfront is your site, or whatever the black power website is, etc. You are so easily divided by race and other factors, you are a weak link in the fraternity of men and men will always remain divided and conquered if you keep up with this angle. You can't help yourself I'm sure, even though we put out guidance on this forum not to use race to divide. I know asking a little self-restraint and macro judgment is a lot to ask - but give it a little thought. There's a reason women are united behind feminism, and men can't unite to combat it. It's because men are undisciplined and filled with petty grievances they don't have any notion of the bigger picture or goal they want to work towards. There's a reason men are being defeated in the culture war by women - and this sort of post is precisely why.

    I don't know the validity of his claims- maybe he played the race card like a goof, or maybe he just saw someone else get 5 apartments, who knows. As a man, he will be screwed by the divorce court. Can you imagine if a woman was homeless and now needed support, that being denied? That might happen in this case.

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    I think this guy has bigger problems than a divorce. "After his main fund filed for bankruptcy in 2012, it emerged that he had been insolvent for years and had misspent investors’ money, including $8 million to produce “Violet & Daisy,” a film directed by his Oscar-winning writer brother. Those details came out in a 2013 report by the Manhattan federal bankruptcy trustee, who likened the case to “a Ponzi scheme.”“This case is not really about support,” Pao told the judge earlier this year. “Rather, it is about Buddy’s need for money to pay off the judgment against him and his businesses,” she said, referring to a $213 million judgment issued against him by a New York state court, as well as a $1.5 million judgment by the IRS."
    When you have the Federal bankruptcy trustee saying you ran a Ponzi scheme and you owe $213 million to investors and another $1.5 million to the IRS, I'm not sure things can get much worse than that. This is a celebrity divorce and is like watching a car wreck . . . there isn't much a divorce court can take from this guy, at this point. The Ex-wife has all the cash and he has all the debts . . . can't get blood out of a stone, as they say. On the other hand, investors who lost $213 million might be pissed enough to hire some quality hitmen, like whoever was able to get into a federal jail and whack Epstein and make it look like suicide . . .







    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Blah blah blah race this, race that. A lot of MGTOWs don't really support other men; they support men of the same race only- in which case, Stormfront is your site, or whatever the black power website is, etc. You are so easily divided by race and other factors, you are a weak link in the fraternity of men and men will always remain divided and conquered if you keep up with this angle. You can't help yourself I'm sure, even though we put out guidance on this forum not to use race to divide. I know asking a little self-restraint and macro judgment is a lot to ask - but give it a little thought. There's a reason women are united behind feminism, and men can't unite to combat it. It's because men are undisciplined and filled with petty grievances they don't have any notion of the bigger picture or goal they want to work towards. There's a reason men are being defeated in the culture war by women - and this sort of post is precisely why.

    I don't know the validity of his claims- maybe he played the race card like a goof, or maybe he just saw someone else get 5 apartments, who knows. As a man, he will be screwed by the divorce court. Can you imagine if a woman was homeless and now needed support, that being denied? That might happen in this case.

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    If I were still a blue pill and if I were hauling in the paychecks she was getting, one lesson I'd take away from this mess would be to have any+all potential long-term GFs fully background-checked. The deep-dive kind, with private investigators. Spend a few grand now, save hundreds later. After all, marriages are as much a business partnership as anything else.

    (But of course that floats on the notion that marriages aren't nonsensical and aren't just plain stupid, which is absurd.)

    So anyway, I'm wondering if she ever did go through that exercise before the rings went on.

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    This marriage made sense from Buddy's point of view. He was marrying a loaded Silicon Valley tech woman who was pulling in millions. According to the article, she made him sign a prenup to keep him from getting to her money. In the divorce, he tried to overturn the prenup which failed, but he did get the technical right to collect alimony from her. This is the only type of marriage that makes sense for men - marrying a multi-millionaire who is liable to pay you alimony if there is a divorce - except she got a prenup from him first.

    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    If I were still a blue pill and if I were hauling in the paychecks she was getting, one lesson I'd take away from this mess would be to have any+all potential long-term GFs fully background-checked. The deep-dive kind, with private investigators. Spend a few grand now, save hundreds later. After all, marriages are as much a business partnership as anything else.

    (But of course that floats on the notion that marriages aren't nonsensical and aren't just plain stupid, which is absurd.)

    So anyway, I'm wondering if she ever did go through that exercise before the rings went on.

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    This marriage made sense from Buddy's point of view. He was marrying a loaded Silicon Valley tech woman who was pulling in millions. According to the article, she made him sign a prenup to keep him from getting to her money. In the divorce, he tried to overturn the prenup which failed, but he did get the technical right to collect alimony from her. This is the only type of marriage that makes sense for men - marrying a multi-millionaire who is liable to pay you alimony if there is a divorce - except she got a prenup from him first.
    I don't see any value in wasting life's limited flame on any soul sucking wench for any amount of money, I have awesome million dollar memories gallivanting through life in any direction. Every negative volt of life sapping energy takes it's toll on life, sanity, and happiness. I look at relationshits like time spent in a dungeon!
    Adopting another man's wife and family as your own is an abomination unto eternity. Don't be a Mumford O'Crowley, draw the line!

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    Maybe I am too simplistic, but the answer seems easy for me. He made just one mistake

    He depended on a woman for his livelihood

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    Actually, per the Federal Bankruptcy trustee, he was living the life of Bernie Madoff - a major mistake. He flaunted cash, blew $8 million on a vanity movie with his brother, and was swindling his investors with a Ponzi scheme ... that was his mistake. Now he has crashed and is looking for fresh cash, his multi millionaire ex had a prenup and doesn't plan on paying off his swindled investors for him. Another big mistake was not hiding some cash on an offshore island, say the $8 million dollars that he wasted on a movie, and living there for the rest of his life high on the hog. Now the Feds are after him and his cash is gone . . . He is depending on getting cash from his ex now, but unlike most guys, he was smart enough to marry a multi-millionaire. (Who wasn't stupid enough to trust him and demanded a prenup, unlike his investors) Not a lot of sympathetic characters in this disaster.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    Maybe I am too simplistic, but the answer seems easy for me. He made just one mistake

    He depended on a woman for his livelihood

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    Re: Buddy Fletcher and Ellen Pao’s marriage ending with mudslinging and acrimony

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    "You may or may not want an affirmative action mail handler, school administrator or other paper pusher. But you definitely don't want an affirmative action president, doctor or fund manager."
    Odd that people think that being president or managing an investment fund isn't paper-pushing.


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