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    Re: Bettina Arndt talks about men not speaking truth to women

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    There is always something strange about zionism and people who claim to be Jews with the hope that they will be accepted.
    What I suspect about it is that if they do succeed in having their new world order or whatever it is they want, all these extra people who weren't officially part of their group will be purged and killed off similar to Islam's convert or die mantra.
    No, we will all just fulfill their religious destiny of two groups, Jews and Goyim, Slaves and Owners. There are no Kings without Subjects, no Masters without Slaves. If you are interested in what they believe, from their own mouths, check out Know More News on Youtube. Go back in his content a ways and check it all out. Shocking that it is not even a hidden agenda, it only takes a little digging to understand what Zionists want.

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    Re: Bettina Arndt talks about men not speaking truth to women

    I think Peterson tells plenty of truth, but much of it is hidden. You have to look at feminist criticism of him to find the pointers to it. I think he is more red pilled than he lets on. I also think this is purely for marketing reasons. If he came out and told the whole truth, he would be thrown down the memory hole and depersoned like so many others.

    As an example, an astute feminist pointed out that in one place, he compares women to nature. Elsewhere, he makes it clear that nature must be subdued least it destroy you. The feminist rightly put that together and asked if he was saying women need to be subdued. He tap danced around it because he is wise. If I can find a video link, I will post it later.

    He will never talk about these two concepts together. I even hold that it is possible he isn't consciously aware of exactly what he is saying, but his two "separate" arguments put together are absolutely spot on. I personally prefer the analogy of fire.

    The individual man is helpless because as a society we have lost control of this very dangerous fire. MGTOW to me, is some of the wiser men in the world building themselves personal fire breaks. When the fire burns through and has destroyed most of everything, we can reemerge, assess the situation, and perhaps rebuild. For now, we simply hole-up and wait it out.

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    Re: Bettina Arndt talks about men not speaking truth to women

    I like Bettina because she pisses off feminists to no end. I also like Diana Davison from the lighthouse project. Both are different from women who generally take our side. As for Jordan, I can take him or leave him.
    "Don't follow in my footsteps. I stepped in something."

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    Re: Bettina Arndt talks about men not speaking truth to women

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    I think Peterson tells plenty of truth, but much of it is hidden. You have to look at feminist criticism of him to find the pointers to it. I think he is more red pilled than he lets on. I also think this is purely for marketing reasons. If he came out and told the whole truth, he would be thrown down the memory hole and depersoned like so many others.

    As an example, an astute feminist pointed out that in one place, he compares women to nature. Elsewhere, he makes it clear that nature must be subdued least it destroy you. The feminist rightly put that together and asked if he was saying women need to be subdued. He tap danced around it because he is wise. If I can find a video link, I will post it later.

    He will never talk about these two concepts together. I even hold that it is possible he isn't consciously aware of exactly what he is saying, but his two "separate" arguments put together are absolutely spot on. I personally prefer the analogy of fire.

    The individual man is helpless because as a society we have lost control of this very dangerous fire. MGTOW to me, is some of the wiser men in the world building themselves personal fire breaks. When the fire burns through and has destroyed most of everything, we can reemerge, assess the situation, and perhaps rebuild. For now, we simply hole-up and wait it out.
    I agree that Peterson is aware of evolutionary psychology. But Peterson also pushes the narrative that men carry the burden of building civilization which is tradcon 101 message. This is why Mr. Peterson did not understand mgtow at the start as it runs directly counter to building civilization narrative and archtype in his mind that men should adhere to. However, after closer inspection Mr. Peterson took a step back and conceded maybe he was too harsh with mgtow, because he is starting to understand the incentives to adhere to society and civilization building are simply not there.

    So he is like many tradcons that believe if the incentives are there again that men will come back to the fold. However, what he misses is that men have tasted freedom and it is hard to let it go.


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