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    Awakened While Married: Notes from the front lines

    Awakened While Married isn't a term that I see used much these days. I remember a few years ago when I first joined various MGTOW and MRA forums, there was a bit of debate regarding if married men can even call themselves MGTOW. My perception was that the "married men can not be MGTOW" crowd sort of won that battle, and the term seemed to simply disappear.

    Obviously, I think a married man can still be MGTOW, and I've now had time to think about the concept for a while. So a simple question: What does a married MGTOW do? He plans his exit.

    You see, we all live in the same gynocentric prison. Married men are simply the guys that got themselves locked up in the hole. Their own behavior got them there, but they ain't getting out until they play the game. So a married MGTOW is stuck playing the game, but he is playing it. Now though, it is with freedom in mind.

    Why am I still married? Because I won't throw my son into the meat grinder that is family court. I won't for a minute risk having him be another young man raised by a single mother. Is this MGTOW? You damned strait it is. It is me, consciously choosing my actions based on a red pill understanding of the world and my current circumstances, no matter how I got here, or how bad they are.

    An interesting thing happens when you honestly and deeply stop caring what your wife thinks though. Her behavior improves radically. Not to the point that I intend to stay married, but it improves considerably. Sometimes it almost seems bearable.

    The other day though, I was hit with yet another reminder. My wife got pissed at me because I wasn't enforcing a rule on our child that I personally disagree with. You see it is her rule, not mine. The other odd thing is she won't personally enforce it. She expects me to do it. Even though she can deeply tell I don't give a rats ass, the gynocenterism still appears. It is simply a beast that can't be killed.

    So to young men that haven't fallen into the marriage trap, I simply say, don't get married. No good can come of it.

    To any married men that may read this, ignore the naysayers. You can go your own way. You're just stuck playing a longer game. Nothing can be done about that. Stay sane and plan your exit. You don't need to throw your kids under the bus. I double down on this if you have one or more boys. Your actions brought them into the world. The least you can do is raise them red pill. If that means you spend a few more years in the hole, then do it.

    For me, freedom is only a couple of years away. I know a guy that got divorced in his late 60's or early 70's. He's never been happier. He's the oldest person I know to escape the matrix, and he serves as a great example. It's never too late to wake up.

    One last note for men with daughters. They will break your heart too. I've seen it too many times to count. The minute you are no longer of any use to them, they will change just like your wife did. Hypergamy doesn't have limits. Be ready for it. With your sons, you have a munch better chance.

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    Re: Awakened While Married: Notes from the front lines

    My mom always used to say she wanted her headstone to read "Here lies the big black bear" because she claimed she was the only enforcer of rules in the house. She never pointed out that dad was usually working doubles and was never home! She's buried just down the road. Hmmm. A can of spray paint comes to mind.
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    Re: Awakened While Married: Notes from the front lines

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    To any married men that may read this, ignore the naysayers. You can go your own way. You're just stuck playing a longer game. Nothing can be done about that. Stay sane and plan your exit. You don't need to throw your kids under the bus. I double down on this if you have one or more boys. Your actions brought them into the world. The least you can do is raise them red pill. If that means you spend a few more years in the hole, then do it.
    Good on you, pbisque, for sticking it out for the sake of your son. As a father myself, I understand exactly the position you are in and your concern to do right by your boy. I would have done the same for mine, except that his mother was determined to start over with her new lover. Unfeeling cunt as she was toward me, she did at least recognize that our son would suffer if I was excluded from his life. He and I had a very strong bond even though he wasn't yet 2 years old when the marriage ended, and I made sure that I was able to continue spending time with him most days until he reached his mid-teens.
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    Re: Awakened While Married: Notes from the front lines

    Thank you for sharing pbisque. It is important for men that have never been married, but have seen enough evidence to make an informed choice to go their own way, to hear true stories from the front lines as they are happening.

    In my last and final relationshit we were together almost four years. Having major conflicts regarding finances our entire relationshit, it came to a boil days before I was to make a large, non-refundable investment in a "shared" (a house with only her name on the mortgage) property. She was attempting to play me to the tune of 20-30,000 dollars. At the last second she got weak in the knees and some cracks in her charade allowed her true intentions to shine through. She wasn't built like a criminal and couldn't pull off the felony-level theft she was planning.

    She had me though. For her, I submitted to the idea of marriage. I stopped laughing in her face at the idea of it. We talked about a planned trip to Vegas. It's frightening how close I came to losing half of everything I labored for all these years.

    I wasn't a member of mgtow then. Had never heard the term. I had red pill beliefs before I knew what red pill meant. Coming to these forums after our breakup was a refreshing sign that I wasn't alone. That all women are like that. While it was hard to lose someone I had invested years of myself with, it wasn't as hard as being financially raped.

    My ex was a salaried manager with the same huge international corporation. We had the same job title in two different locations. Every one of our arguments stemmed from why she believed I should pay for 100% of everything when she was more than capable of going 50/50. Feminism is why. Even though she worked a professional role ordinarily reserved for someone with a penis, she still wanted all of the white knight benefits of a vagina holder. No woman will ever pay her way. If she makes good money, she will hold it tight and invest it for when she gets rid of you, or monkey branches to the next victim. Realizing this fact, I cannot logically invest in another relationshit.

    There are still submissive women that will please a man sexually for the cost equivalent of dinner and a movie and expect nothing greater in return. Feminists call them prostitutes. I call them honest females.
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