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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    With Great Thanks to the contributors on this forum, I have moved firmly into the 2 Category. And it gets easier everyday, as women become less and less desirable. Even attractive women on movies and commercials don't move my dial. About the only women that move my dial anymore, are girls I had crushes on long ago, and they are older but I remember them young
    Its awesome to live life on my terms, and not having it in the back of my mind I have to get validation from a woman, or worse jump through hoops just to get a woman to only have her slaughter me when the time is right for her

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Blue pill idiots (especially women with skin in the game) shame MGTOW and call us losers among men.
    Men who have mastered their biological impulses and can "take it or leave it" when it comes to sex are not losers.
    They are winners with the ability to become gods. How many god-like men have fallen into nothingness due to vag?
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    With Great Thanks to the contributors on this forum, I have moved firmly into the 2 Category. And it gets easier everyday, as women become less and less desirable. Even attractive women on movies and commercials don't move my dial. About the only women that move my dial anymore, are girls I had crushes on long ago, and they are older but I remember them young
    Its awesome to live life on my terms, and not having it in the back of my mind I have to get validation from a woman, or worse jump through hoops just to get a woman to only have her slaughter me when the time is right for her
    Because they are not that pretty .

    They can be madness inducing pretty from 14 to 19 yo and then they are just mmok

    Just another fucking jaw ...
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    In many foreign countries, American guys are the prize. There is no need for American guys to be thirsty simps. You can be the Chad Thundercock if you can speak some Spanish or Russian and have time to travel and meet foreign women. In Mexico, you are competing with guys who earn $5 per day - you are a rock star by comparison. So long as you do not make the basic mistake of bringing Princess back to the land of divorce lawyers for her to divorcerape you, you can be a passport playa. Google overseas romance tours like the Loveme dot com tours if you want women lining up to meet you but do not bring them back to the USA. Remember, don't crap where you eat, work or live - keep the women you meet out of the feminasty states of America. If you are one of the thirsty guys Jagrmeister is talking about, try option 4: escape from the USA matriarchy and go to where you are the prize!
    All aboard for "Option 4!"
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    If you are one of the thirsty guys Jagrmeister is talking about, try option 4: escape from the USA matriarchy and go to where you are the prize target!
    Fixed it.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg View Post
    Fixed it.
    In my country, the foreigners ARE THE TARGET. No, not talking about boring stuff related to women, but more interesting and immediate stuff like getting robbed and you wont even know it. You go to a shop and you will be quoted 5x-10x the price of things !!!
    A clever fighter not only wins, but excels in winning with ease. His victories bring him neither reputation for wisdom, nor credit for courage. He wins his battles by making no mistakes. Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated.

    Sun Tzu in The Art of War
    MGTOW is about making no mistakes against gynocentrism.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    All aboard for "Option 4!"
    I dont think there are safe places left .

    The most remote places are outright dangerous to live at .

    The touristy places are not that cheap anymore and the women there are even bigger predators .

    Plus you have no rights in those remote places - cops will be against you , her brothers/cousins can deal with you on their whim . You will be running into scams on a monthly basis .

    The upside is that you will be blissfully not avare of all this
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    In my country, the foreigners ARE THE TARGET. No, not talking about boring stuff related to women, but more interesting and immediate stuff like getting robbed and you wont even know it. You go to a shop and you will be quoted 5x-10x the price of things !!!
    See? Target is right on so many levels… Quoting exorbitant prices is not unheard of in my country either, one continent west of yours. :-\

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    A target yes, I have seen it in P4P places like Thailand, they play the blue pill guys off each other for money constantly.

    But as a general the 'remember you're the prize' is a good mindset to adopt and I have spoke of this on more than one occasion, I don't know why because it's a futile effort to try and wake a blue pill guy up.

    Another favorite of mine, concomitant with the 'prize' mindset... Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment

    What I also get from the OP is the way the 80% pedestalize women and creating a sense of empowerment, so is self entitlement and empowerment solely a feminist created phenomenon or are the 80% males assisting in this.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    I think if one goes option 4, structure your finances in a way you are more valuable alive than dead, more valuable with her than without. I know of a Swedish guy that met a Thai lady, married, and they bought a house. 6 months later when the Swede returned to his wife and the house he paid for, her brothers told him to leave and never come back. As a foreigner, he had no legal right to the house. I guess he should be happy he lived.
    In SE Asia, if you do get a GF, you are expected to pick up some family expenses like rent for the parents. I guess it could be done right. But for me, I aint moving to a 3rd world country for a woman, and I certainly am not bringing her to the USA to get divorced raped.

    In conclusion, keep your assets in trust in your home country, have funds sent monthly to yourself , then pay bills. Only extra payment rent for the parents, as they will be your best allies , so your gf will treat you well. Lastly ignore all the requests for money from her other family members

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    In my country, the foreigners ARE THE TARGET. No, not talking about boring stuff related to women, but more interesting and immediate stuff like getting robbed and you wont even know it. You go to a shop and you will be quoted 5x-10x the price of things !!!
    (In my best snivelling sarcasm voice) "OMG! I'll have no choice but to go to shops were they will do that! And I will have no choice but to pay that price! What will I do!?!??"

    The day I can't barter, haggle, bargain, and dicker, please come to my house and stamp my passport "no deserts."

    The day I don't do my research before I go somewhere, just come to my house and take my passport.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    I know of a Swedish guy that met a Thai lady, married, and they bought a house.
    He got married.
    That was his mistake.
    He should have gone to Thailand and gotten "10% of something."
    But nooooo, he just had to get "100% of nothing at all."

    He went to the buffet restaurant. He had his choice of the steak, or the lobster, or the sushi...or all three and more.
    But noooo....he only tried the tater tots, proclaimed "These are the best tater tots I have ever had in my entire life! I will only eat these tater tots from now on!" and refused to sample the rest of the buffet line!

    He had a library card that allowed him to check out and return as many books as he wanted, but he threw it away once he became engrossed in that dog eared copy of a thirty year old Reader's Digest magazine.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Maybe I am just more adventurous, but I don't subscribe to all the hand-wringing, fear-snivelling, and doom anticipating of some of the posters above.

    I subscribe to the philosophy of "Play Smart, Play Hard, Nobody Hurt."
    Anticipate the hazards, plan accordingly, stay out of trouble, don't do nothing stupid, and have a ball.
    Get in, get your fun, get out, don't bring nothing home except for great memories....and some videos you will not want the grandkids to find.

    I don't usually post trip reports in this forum, usually saving them for ISG or MongerNet.

    But I am tempted to post an abbreviated one in our P4P section.

    I just came back from a trip down south that was so amazing, my penis hated me and I had to squeeze out Vitamin E out of gel caps and rub it on there.

    Bought my ticket with miles (I did have to pay the tax), got a very nice mini-studio for a little over $300, and spent about $100 a day for everything. I was aiming for two encounters a day, but without some help from a Testuveron shot, I had to do "rest" days of just one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBHZ60N41AY

    "From 9 to 5 I have to spend my time at work.
    My job is very boring, I'm an office clerk.
    The only that helps me pass the time of day
    is knowing I'll be back at echo beach someday."
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    (In my best snivelling sarcasm voice) "OMG! I'll have no choice but to go to shops were they will do that! And I will have no choice but to pay that price! What will I do!?!??"

    The day I can't barter, haggle, bargain, and dicker, please come to my house and stamp my passport "no deserts."

    The day I don't do my research before I go somewhere, just come to my house and take my passport.
    Yeah my post was a joke, saw it happening once in front of me, but I have absolutely no idea how widespread it is. To anyone reading, please dont take anything I write as a travel advice !!!

    I dont travel AT ALL, which means I have no experience with most of the things that are involved in it. I dont even know the best way to find escorts etc even IN MY OWN CITY. Yeah I know people who I can ask for directions if needed, but that never happened.
    A clever fighter not only wins, but excels in winning with ease. His victories bring him neither reputation for wisdom, nor credit for courage. He wins his battles by making no mistakes. Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated.

    Sun Tzu in The Art of War
    MGTOW is about making no mistakes against gynocentrism.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    He got married.
    That was his mistake.
    He should have gone to Thailand and gotten "10% of something."
    But nooooo, he just had to get "100% of nothing at all."

    He went to the buffet restaurant. He had his choice of the steak, or the lobster, or the sushi...or all three and more.
    But noooo....he only tried the tater tots, proclaimed "These are the best tater tots I have ever had in my entire life! I will only eat these tater tots from now on!" and refused to sample the rest of the buffet line!

    He had a library card that allowed him to check out and return as many books as he wanted, but he threw it away once he became engrossed in that dog eared copy of a thirty year old Reader's Digest magazine.
    lol good lord thatís vivid

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by Hesiod View Post
    A target yes, I have seen it in P4P places like Thailand, they play the blue pill guys off each other for money constantly.

    But as a general the 'remember you're the prize' is a good mindset to adopt and I have spoke of this on more than one occasion, I don't know why because it's a futile effort to try and wake a blue pill guy up.

    Another favorite of mine, concomitant with the 'prize' mindset... Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment

    What I also get from the OP is the way the 80% pedestalize women and creating a sense of empowerment, so is self entitlement and empowerment solely a feminist created phenomenon or are the 80% males assisting in this.

    .
    The 80% are definitely most complicit in "every woman is a unicorn" phenomena. Cause that's what I've noticed alot of... Having spent the majority of my life as bit of a radfem myself, I have tons of experience in the lexicon, circular-themes/thinking, fluffybunny affirmations and basically everything else that goes into Feelgood Hamstering. I was noticing something in one of my polyamory groups today. Well, for one thing, the whole thing is quite unsurprisingly liberal and gynocentric, as you would expect from folks who've sworn off monogamy. It's also *quite* inclusive of every kind of rights you can imagine (minus those of hetero men, cause icky) and as this is Pride month, there's been a ton of celebrating going on. Which I gotta admit, I like to see. But also, the flow of white-guilt, misandry, gyno-worship and responsibility-shifting never ceases. Some folks that I once quite liked are getting on my nerves, and I would have unfriended them had I not chosen to take a double-agent role. Espionage is fun, yo...

    I see so many memes, tumblr-posts, and twitter shots being shared, liked and celebrated... And it kinda makes me mad. I've resisted keeping you updated on them both because I'm quite busy, and I don't want to spam the forums non-stop as some half-ass member of the outrage industry. Activist Journalism is Cancer.

    But in regards to the whole "Gatekeepers of Commitment" idea. I see, constantly, reminders of how seriously the feminists take the whole "controlling women's sexuality" thing. EVERYTHING is about controlling sexuality, and patriarchal male rancor at Who Controls IT (women, obviously)... And within 4 minutes, there are gynocentric posts detailing all the things that men should do to show their Commitment. Women ASSUME commitment on the part of a male, yet for males to assume sexuality on the part of a women is tantamount to sex-abuse, in their eyes.

    Which is pretty goddamn shitty... not their anger about the concept that Women owe Men sex (which is quite reasonably worth being horrified by), but the idea that Men owe Women commitment... They never question this assumption. So many posts... about Green Flags (basically a laundry-list of assumed simpery, masqueraded as human decency)... about how sex given after nagging, begging and pleading is not consensual (a pain in the ass, yes.. Rape, no) about all kinds of things. It's not surprising that they spare us zero regard when they are willingly participating in a fundamentalist echo-chamber...

    And I've considered, many times, posting Redpills in the language-format of solopsistic hamstering. It would do no good, but might entertain me...
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

    Abandon the Abandoners.

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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    I dont think there are safe places left
    Time we built that MGTOW Republic.
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    Re: Let's Face It: The Average 80%'er Non-MGTOW male is a Desperate Perv

    Reading the OP makes me cringe when thinking back to my own desperation and subsequent pervy behaviour.

    Its better to just stay in the background whilst still operating in society, a kind 'ghosting in plain sight' if you will. Being a passive ghost who still goes along with the flow of the river is so much more peaceful.


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