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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Mr Wombat,

    Thanks again for contributing to this thread. I am well versed in the scientific method and expect quite
    a lot more flack for making the claims I have made. Inventing the thing was surprisingly simple.
    The hard work starts from here where others come to my aid by attacking my work, to ensure its'
    perfection.

    So you know, others have found great gaping holes in the standard model of physics. Tesla included.
    Moray, Poynting, Bearden, Rodin and many others. I have a stack of notebooks from studying the works
    of these men.

    Really, it starts with completely abandoning Einstein with regards to mass/energy and going back to Maxwell,
    Heaviside and Steinmetz. Those three are the heavyweights. Whittaker did a fine job as well.
    When you get lost from doing all that, turn to Eric Dollard. He is Tesla 2.0 and a total MGTOW.
    You will like Dollard, until he calls you a geek for being collared by a computer. Shrug it off and learn.

    I'm not working with transformers either. Just single coils of wire configured according to a natural geometry,
    I discovered recently, and Versor Algebra provided by Prof. Dollard. I considered adding secondary coils, interwoven
    with the primary windings and tossed the idea out for now. I don't want to get too far ahead of my current work.

    I appreciate your scepticism and input. Thank you.

    Can't write much more tonight. It takes about an hour to wind the coil correctly, about 2 hours to 3d print the next jig
    and on your advice I'll be testing with the ammeter tonight to see how it compares to the source voltage. Good point.
    Should be highly revealing since I'm using 2 AAA 1.5v batteries to run the rotor which produces A/C output.

    Also, a good point about the resistor (1 ohm). I expected it to generate heat after five minutes but saw no perceptible
    change in temperature. To me that is a good sign. I'll have more to tell tomorrow or the next day after I get to a Radio
    Shack. Yes, there is still much work to do. I've got time to get it all done.

    Thanks again. Much respect.

    LP

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Quote Originally Posted by hellgorama View Post
    SO I will say that if lastpriory really is on to something and that unlike previous inventors, he has big names lined up, then I wish him the best of luck and look forward to seeing his face on forbes or Times magazine as the potential bill gates of alternative energy usurping the tyranny of the fossil fuel dynasty.
    Likewise. I know that my posts on the subject sound cranky and "stay the hell off of my lawn!", I'm not sure I could have written them more politely. Well, I could have. Had I anticipated that LastPriory's response to me was going tho be as sensible and moderate as it was, I probably would have.

    But I see I am only offering the usual non-apology apology: "I'm sorry if anyone was offended". I'm not actually withdrawing anything I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastPriory View Post
    Also, a good point about the resistor (1 ohm). I expected it to generate heat after five minutes but saw no perceptible change in temperature.
    Hmm. Well, 16 volts from an ideal constant voltage source with no internal resistance across a 1 ohm resistor would give you 16 amps, or 256W. P = V<sup>2</sup>R. Which would most certainly fry the 10W resistor - 16 amps is a shedload of current.

    So there is - of course - something else going on. Has to be. The power supply is not an ideal voltage source.

    Having said that, that alone doesn't mean that your device isn't overunity. So what am I saying? Not sure. Perhaps I'm just saying that measuring AC power isn't a simple matter. Google "Power Factor". Heck - I'll do it for you: Power_Factor@Wikipedia.

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Mr Wombat,
    I'm between prints and just got your post.

    My God!

    Please do not ever withdraw a single thing you say. These are exactly the challenges
    I am up against. This work took me 29 years to complete and I'm way behind schedule.
    In my defence, I am unbelievably under budget and getting it all done, ASAP. All while
    working 56 hours per week for my business incubator.

    My Father is old and I want him to be really truly proud of me just one more time. If I get this
    done, maybe one more time my Father will sit by me and really speak to me, like he did
    way back when I was inspired to take this project on. The day I showed my Father my intent.
    He also told me it could not be done. Now I've done it.

    I welcome critics. As a scientist, I MUST admit if I am wrong. As an autodidactic one,
    I will be subject to the most heinous criticism, egregious libel, slander, and wanton neglect.
    I can deal with that just fine. I've become accustomed to it.

    I cannot afford to waste my life defending something which can be broken easily, or disproved
    readily. Furthermore, it would be insulting to any potential client of mine to have overlooked something
    which could possibly endanger them. I don't want to waste my life or the lives of others.

    I'm no Hillary Clinton. I won't endanger or squander the lives or reputations of others.
    I cannot afford to fail a cost/benefit analysis any more than anybody else.
    In Science, there truly is no such thing as privilege, shelter, or status.

    My rapidly whitening eyebrows and whiskers smile when I meet grumpy old men who point a rifle at me.
    I know they still remember how to use one. That is indeed a comforting thought.

    Good on ya, mate.

    LP

    ps. I rode an elevator with Ted Turner several months ago and never spoke a word of this to him.

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Mr Wombat,

    I broke out the RMS multimeter tonight. Read 32 milliamps across one coil at .886 volts- not a lot,
    but not uncorrectable either.

    <on edit> Ran the numbers a minute ago. You were right about the current to voltage ratio
    however, with this many volts, current shouldn't be a problem. Only bearing wear and
    possibly aerodynamics. </on edit>

    The coils are wound with 30 gauge wire, so I didn't expect a huge amperage output from them.
    Also, the coils are hand wound and at the moment not very precise. I only figured out the winding
    ratios this past Saturday which boosted the power output from .25v up to 1v. Also, the mounting
    brackets I printed up don't place the coil as close to the rotor magnets, so this is just a preliminary
    reading. I still have much work to do.

    Tonight, I got the business card of a lawyer who prosecutes financial crimes just in case.
    Dr. Bearden has advised those working in the over unity field about this tactic. Mr. moneybags
    tends to rope in the fiscally unwary inventor with large dollar amounts in exchange for the
    patent. The unwary inventor gets prosecuted for money laundering and Mr. moneybags gets
    the inventor thrown in jail, steals his patent and smokes a fat cigar. Totally uncool. The
    scam works just like a pretty fluffy. Beautiful on the outside, ugly on the inside.

    As far as I can tell, with regards to producing A/C voltage my coil is very good. It's cheap and
    relatively easy to make. I still need to devise a solid test for current draw to see whether or not
    it will slow the rotor down, whether or not heat is generated as amperage is drawn, you know the
    drill.

    Thanks for your advice. Much appreciated and welcome.
    LP
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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Update:

    This experiment has failed. I really thought I had it until yesterday when I started working to debunk my
    own invention. I tested it by winding an induction coil without using the Henry formula. I made the height
    of the winding bobbin 5mm so the diameter of the winding would increase radially, while the center
    diameter would be the same. The result was around 30% more wattage.

    This thing may still be useful for something. Tests show some very strange properties. Next step
    will be to cull together a software oscilloscope and analyse what kind of waveform is produced.

    I have not given up. I ordered about $90 worth of high grade magnets which will arrive soon.

    So thank you all, especially those who provided scientific criticism. It was most valuable and timely.

    LP

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Thanks for that. I only have a very basic understanding of this stuff.

    If someone really wants to do something for "free" energy, figure out how to generate steam through solar power. Solar heat is abundant and has yet to be fully utilized. But I'm unaware of any way to build a useful terrestrial solar boiler (orbital solar boilers are another matter entirely), but anyone who did would be the Bill Gates of alternative energy. A solar boiler could be used to generate steam which could then be used to spin a dynamo and generate electricity. My understanding is that the problem isn't creating steam with solar power, it's creating sufficient steam.

    Easy, go collect late 90's plasma TV's. Those contain point fresnel lenses.
    A 60" fresnell lens will concentrate enough sunlight to melt copper and glass.

    Focus multiple lenses on rebar on a concrete block and you can use it to boil water to run a multhorsepower rated steam engine. From there harness mechanical power into whatever you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Am I the only one that has no idea what this guy is talking about?
    Yup !! ... You should have thought about that before cheating your way through physics school !!!

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    You're not going to generate energy from nothing. You have to
    1) put more energy in than you get out (there will be some amount of waste via radiation - sound EMF heat etc)
    2) split matter
    3) have an outside force - such as shifting terrestrial magnetism or static charge (ie Galt's machine)

    and as said earlier, you can multiple voltage, but you'll be reducing current by the factor you increase voltage.

    and yeah... I been hobbying with electronics since discovering the forrest mims books in the 80s....
    My opinions are not necessarily my opinions.

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    I don't understand Zero-Lenz; I'm not an electrical engineer. But I do have two questions that I think are on-point:

    How much power (how many watts) are you putting into it?

    How much power (how many watts) are you getting out of it, for the above-stated input?
    3w input DC motor. Potential for producing thousands of times more output power than input.
    Not finished, but the answer is whispering in my ear and screaming in my face at the same time.

    Output potential appears to be exponential per the flow of stored gravity per Tesla of magnetism,
    without regard to the flow of space through, nor around mass. The non Relativistic flow of energy not charge,
    based on the alternating vortexes of permanent magnets and the alteration of inductive coil geometry.

    Nobody can buy equipment which can measure this. Too complex for our maths now. Maybe in 2030 it
    can be done, but this accomplishment will require too many eyes on the project. Very expensive at the moment.

    Yes, Classical Thermodynamics still seems to apply. Special cases arise. I haven't gone through it all yet-
    too many experiments, too little time and the maths are only partially complete.
    I'm just this guy, working on it all by my self. I'm nobody.

    The exception to the rule, the magic ice cream shitting, rainbow farting unicorn seems to be the
    temporal phase conjugate waveform within an intraphase amplitude inductance regarding Hamiltonian
    and Oersteadian motion and Magnetism, Inductance, and Geometry and the 2D nature of Newtons discoveries,
    expanded into quadrature. I'm not 100% sure but this seems the way to go for me. Minkowski seems relevant, but
    not necessarily pertinent. Still unsure about Maxwellian Potentials and the Heaviside equations are not yet integrated,
    given these geometries. Much left to discover.

    The question of Watts is a question of consumption, not one of over-production when resistance is in question.
    Once Maxwell is cracked by quadrature, resistance is futile and energy flows naturally from the Sun, the Earth, and
    the Galaxy itself.

    This seems to leave a gaping hole. A void. Nature abhors a void.
    What to do with this abundance of energy? Nobody knows.
    Women try to spend all of it, fail again, ask for more to spend and fail to spend it well.

    MGTOW represents our manly attempt to fill that void by creating something other
    than another slave to serve some popular notion of reality and some divorce court,
    reality TV show, daytime propaganda matrix of con-formal creativity.

    How many Watts? Very little. How much actual power?
    RMS^-$-^V(m)*3.141 perhaps. I don't know yet, that experiment is at least a week away.

    If successful-
    This poses a mathematical potential of an infinite series-
    ie. infinite power with minimal Watts consumed.

    1to 3.333 initially. The last 6 months I worked on the amplitude problem and
    last night found one possible solution. It will take some time to formulate
    correctly and build out, but is within reach nearing a 5/1 output to input ratio. It seems to
    be scale-able to meet any demand, but that remains to be proven experimentally.

    The experiment which will occur within the next week should prove this to
    be true. I cannot show you the apparatus, only the output.

    Otherwise my attorneys would lynch me and fire a pistol up my asshole
    to make sure I died painfully.

    Unfortunately for me, My attorneys are mostly married men and very wealthy.
    I am very poor and must guard my discoveries until I can pay to protect my claims.

    Hope this is a suitable reply. I've got a ton of homework left to finish.

    If you don't hear from me for a while, assume all is well.

    I'll let you know if trouble is afoot.

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    Hysterisis loss, copper loss, and eddy current loss work against this, even in superconducting materials and temperatures.

    Can't get somethin' for nuthin'. It's the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toolate View Post
    Hysterisis loss, copper loss, and eddy current loss work against this, even in superconducting materials and temperatures.

    Can't get somethin' for nuthin'. It's the law.
    The laws are also painstakingly specific. They work under certain conditions.
    Alter the conditions and alter the outcome.

    Jim Murray sets the bar pretty high, but his device is quite costly to build.
    For those who are interested, this is worth an hour.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK3JOlY0V8Y
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    I was wondering if a Rodin coil being used as a generator coil would reduce the lenz effect.

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    Mr. Wombat I must admit that I am impressed of your knowledge of electrical engineering. Last Priority, as far as I have seen or ever learned you cannot simply get results with no work being put into it. I have always been fascinated by Nikola Tesla and an invention of his that would step up both voltage and current at the same time. Typically speaking you can step up voltage at the cost of current or step up current at the cost of voltage. To be able to do both with a device would solve a lot of energy problems, however I've never seen anything working that can accomplish this. Today electricity can be produce pretty easy and cheaply, so producing is not the real problem. Storage of that electricity is a major fucking problem.

    Simply put depending on the land I own, I can produce enough electricity to power my house, using a combination of wind, solar and hydro powered electricity. Now truth is that most people don't live next to a river and even if they did some EPA asshole would shut down even a small dam. So we are left with solar and wind power, which are still usable. Trouble is that you need to store that electricity for nighttime or when the wind is not blowing. Most people use deep cycle batteries that cost a lot of money and produce a lot of pollution when being made. Once again these deep cycle batteries are on a timer once charges since the acid in them is eating away at the metal grids in them. So if you really want to better mankind think of a way of storing that energy safely and cheaply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starcruiser View Post
    I was wondering if a Rodin coil being used as a generator coil would reduce the lenz effect.
    I ran that experiment a couple of days ago. Compared to a standard induction coil it doesn't produce much wattage, but the sine
    waves are beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prisoner View Post
    Mr. Wombat I must admit that I am impressed of your knowledge of electrical engineering. Last Priority, as far as I have seen or ever learned you cannot simply get results with no work being put into it. I have always been fascinated by Nikola Tesla and an invention of his that would step up both voltage and current at the same time. Typically speaking you can step up voltage at the cost of current or step up current at the cost of voltage. To be able to do both with a device would solve a lot of energy problems, however I've never seen anything working that can accomplish this. Today electricity can be produce pretty easy and cheaply, so producing is not the real problem. Storage of that electricity is a major fucking problem.

    Simply put depending on the land I own, I can produce enough electricity to power my house, using a combination of wind, solar and hydro powered electricity. Now truth is that most people don't live next to a river and even if they did some EPA asshole would shut down even a small dam. So we are left with solar and wind power, which are still usable. Trouble is that you need to store that electricity for nighttime or when the wind is not blowing. Most people use deep cycle batteries that cost a lot of money and produce a lot of pollution when being made. Once again these deep cycle batteries are on a timer once charges since the acid in them is eating away at the metal grids in them. So if you really want to better mankind think of a way of storing that energy safely and cheaply.
    I agree with you on your points. Storage is a very very high priority and the EPA can go suck a bag of dicks for what they did to the Las Animas River. Fuck the EPA.

    Storage of charge is a huge deal. I know a little about it but my chemistry lab had to go when I moved. Those were bitter days, singing "Anatevka" the whole time.
    I got some interesting results working with graphene and graphene oxide production methods. That field is wide open to exploration.

    Regarding my original post: A bit of theoretical background seems to be in order. There are loads of grievances against free energy to which I have asked very simple
    questions and suppositions for better than twenty years. For example.

    A neodymium magnet (or samarium-cobalt, AlNiCo, what have you) weighing 1 ounce can pull or push more than its' own mass and does so without losing the power
    to do so for a long, long time. Isn't it safe to say that the real storage of charge occurs in a permanent magnet, and magnets in motion are in fact throwing off much
    more energy than is collected by the coils?

    Newton for newton and mass for mass, the elementary charge of a magnet should not require much motion to produce energy, since the energy needed
    to maintain the motion of the permanent magnet appears to be far less than the energy stored in the magnet.

    Can it be said that the duration of stored energy in a permanent magnet is indefinite for all practical purposes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLien View Post
    You're not going to generate energy from nothing. You have to
    1) put more energy in than you get out (there will be some amount of waste via radiation - sound EMF heat etc)
    2) split matter
    3) have an outside force - such as shifting terrestrial magnetism or static charge (ie Galt's machine)

    and as said earlier, you can multiple voltage, but you'll be reducing current by the factor you increase voltage.

    and yeah... I been hobbying with electronics since discovering the forrest mims books in the 80s....
    So far I have found this to be mostly consistent and mostly derived from Maxwells' Equations.

    Out of curiousity, have you read much of Dr. Beardens' works?

    I've been following him for over a decade, but much less since I got schooled by Prof. Dollard. I highly
    recommend Dollards' work. He is a prolific writer, mathematical genius and has successfully reproduced
    every one of Teslas' patents. Outstanding Hermit of the highest order.

    I'm working with option #3- the outside force. Tesla was very hopeful that one day humanity would
    harness the power of the cosmos to power his machines. So far my research indicates a strong
    preference toward permanent magnets in motion.

    Thanks for the reference. Forrest Mims is definitely on my books to read list as of now.
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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    To all who have posted on this thread, I thank you.

    Indeed, there is much to discuss, and much rumination ahead.

    There are difficult problems facing every man who creates something
    which is better than what he was given.

    May we all strive together to preserve this noble nature of
    MANHOOD, and never give up on the very best we can demand
    of ourselves as men, on behalf of others and those less learned.

    May we never bias ourselves.

    I for one think that MGTOW are more benevolent than cruel,
    more involved than complacent, and more studious than regularly
    informed.

    I'm pretty fucked up and ugly right now, but I mean it.
    MGTOW has all the earmarks of greatness in its' philosophy.
    Count on it.

    Much respect to all,
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastPriory View Post
    I ran that experiment a couple of days ago. Compared to a standard induction coil it doesn't produce much wattage, but the sine
    waves are beautiful.
    was it an Aircore or a loaded coil? I was wondering if using a torrid with the Rodin would improve the performance, there are several guides that I have seen, that show the winding patterns to accomplish the work. The ferrite core could provide the "fuel" required to make it work. Just some thoughts. Just keep in mind the permeability of the core material and its response/saturation curve.

    Good luck with your endeavors though

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    Quote Originally Posted by starcruiser View Post
    was it an Aircore or a loaded coil? I was wondering if using a torrid with the Rodin would improve the performance, there are several guides that I have seen, that show the winding patterns to accomplish the work. The ferrite core could provide the "fuel" required to make it work. Just some thoughts. Just keep in mind the permeability of the core material and its response/saturation curve.

    Good luck with your endeavors though
    I wound a Rodin flat torus around a PLA 3D printed form and rotated ND42 magnets around both sides, such that the
    magnets compressed magnetic fields together through the cavity of the windings. I repeated the experiment with the
    magnets pulling through the coils. Same voltage readings, same amperage readings, same readout on the oscilloscope.

    The Ferrite core will have to wait. I'm saving for another 3D printer and Protopasta bynot dating or watching TV much.
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