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    I achieved my objectives

    Hello all,

    The last three months of my mogtow work has proven quite
    fruitful.

    It seems I have discovered the Zero Lenz effect coil.
    I already have offers from lesser men to shut up about it.
    Large, blank cheques to fuck off and go away.

    For those of you not well versed in Physics, this is impossible
    to do. For those of you who know your real mean value as MEN,
    you already know nothing is impossible.

    You are enduring this process of transformation and exceeding
    in every way, just like me, just like all men do.

    All MEN do this.

    I would like to create a private forum where other MGTOWS are
    enabled to join forces, together to benefit from this discovery.
    Sort of like, but not exactly a business FRATERNITY.

    Masons exist and deny women any status therein. Why not make
    a new, corporate status which shit tests women as severely as they
    have shit tested us to gain admission to an unending income stream?
    Such that the weak and inferior may not benefit from our presence?

    MGTOWS deserve this kind of recognition for their work. I found
    a portion of it here on this site and I am grateful and respectful.

    Now I am inventive, powerful and concede nothing. Instead I grant
    instead of seeking approval, I create and others agree to go their own
    way and do likewise. Life is excellent and beautiful to me once again.

    Recently I found a type of victory.

    My proof of concept exceeded my expectations by more than 800%
    yesterday. WHY?

    BECAUSE I WENT MY OWN WAY AND PLAINLY REFUSED TO
    ACCEPT THE STATUS QUO.

    You also can do this. Once you stop pining for the failure of the
    ALMIGHTY VAGINA and start being yourself with NO APOLOGIES,
    you grant yourself freedom to be a MAN, and all the leeway you require.

    It's as simple as that.

    Much love, respect and hope for you all.
    LP
    The legal claim to Fraternity shall not be infringed.

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Wait.. zero lenz effect coil???!?! WTF?? Can you even IMAGINE the generator/motor efficiency that could be reached?

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    Sweet Jesus, no.

    I just had a look at a YT video, dude said "I made one of these, zero lenz effect, but you can't draw a lot of current from it". No shit, Sherlock. The lenz effect is all about current. You can have as much voltage as you like, but there's no power draw without current and the second you start drawing current you get reactance. Your magic generator works (or doesn't work, in fact) exactly as ordinary electrical engineering describes. Sorry, no magic science there. Video after video of ZPE - ahh - "enthusiasts", shall we say. But no-one is actually powering anything yet. Video after video, but none of them quite work, except for the russian fakes.

    For those of you who know your real mean value as MEN, you already know nothing is impossible.
    Doing a sex swap on this sentence is instructive. "Because we are wimminz, we can defy the limiting, degrading laws of patriarchial science!" Um, no.

    A lot of things are impossible, even for men, even for clear-eyed red pill unlimited MGTOW men like ourselves. Trisecting the angle with straight-edge and compass comes to mind. Conservation of energy is a mathematical result of the translational time symmetry of the laws of physics. Now, if we are just plain wrong about physics, fair enough. But there is really, really good evidence that science is not basically wrong. For instance: the computer you are reading this on.

    I already have offers from lesser men to shut up about it. Large, blank cheques to fuck off and go away.
    Dude - take the money. Take the goddamned money, seriously. First, if there really is a sinister cabal suppressing the zero lenz effect coil, your choice is either take the money or they will assasinate you. These murderous conspiracies really exist: just ask anyone who tried to sell diamonds for what they are really worth. Second, you probably don't have the chops to go into business. Setting up premises, manufacturing, IP law: just discovering some new, Star-Trek tech won't make you rich on its own. There's a lot more to it.

    But I am certain that you have not been offered a large, blank cheque. Certain. And that means that you have crossed the line from being mistakenly enthusiastic about junk science to actively being a bullshitter.

    Options:
    1) Take the money, promise our shapeshifting lizard overlords you'll never breathe a word.
    2) Found a business, manufacture your generator, utterly change the world.
    3) Please STFU about your Zero Lenz Effect coil, it's embarrasing.

    I would like to create a private forum where other MGTOWS are enabled to join forces, together to benefit from this discovery. Sort of like, but not exactly a business FRATERNITY.

    Masons exist and deny women any status therein. Why not make a new, corporate status which shit tests women as severely as they have shit tested us to gain admission to an unending income stream? Such that the weak and inferior may not benefit from our presence?

    The legal claim to Fraternity shall not be infringed.
    Oh god - psudeo-legal nonsense as well. Corporate statuses are created by the laws of wherever you happen to live. They don't magically appear out of thin air. I blame the concept of "rights" for this misunderstanding. Americans in particular seem to have this idea that rights have some sort of platonic reality. If you think that you can operate independently of the laws governing tax and the operation of businesses where you are simply by declaring your business to be "a new, corporate status", you'll find yourself badly mistaken.

    You want to create a private forum? Create a private forum. You'll need a cloud host and that's pretty much it. You'll also need money. Off you go, good luck to you.

    You want investors for your magic generator? Well, that's a bit different.

    Look, man. Tinker with your generator. When you have disconnected your house from the grid and are running your fridge, washing machine, and household lights off free energy, then you might have something.

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Quote Originally Posted by hellgorama View Post
    Wait.. zero lenz effect coil???!?! WTF?? Can you even IMAGINE the generator/motor efficiency that could be reached?
    Dude ... im all in !
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Good advice, well some of it.

    To elucidate a tiny bit (not much, my patent attorney would castrate me if I spill the beans)
    The maths are all wrong. Try using Prof. Dollards' versor algebra and everything fits together real nice.

    As for the business savvy, legal savvy, etc, etc ad naueum- Why do you think it took me 29 years? All that
    knowledge takes time to learn. I can write the patent, manage the business (I've managed 8 so far), defend myself
    in court, write up contracts, read law, pretty much the whole shebang, with one exception: Accounting. I never studied
    that.

    I'm going with option #2. Bootstrap it myself. Fund it myself, and enjoy the fruits of my long labors and intense
    study.

    In short, I will enjoy the benefits of the MGTOW way of life, and smile.

    LP

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    So far I've got a little over 6 times the voltage per coil vs. a standard induction coil of the same
    length of wire and diameter.

    With 16 coils I've got roughly 1,300% over unity on an 8 magnet rotor. 3 volts in = 16 volts out.
    This is the pre-alpha version prototype. Should be ready by Fathers' Day.
    By the time the first alpha is complete I expect in excess of 2,000% over unity.

    Because there is no mechanical resistance the sky is the limit.

    Ok, ok. Technically speaking, the ball bearings are most likely the limit. Even Tesla
    had a tough time with that one.

    I'm going to name the coil after my Father. He gave up electrical engineering school
    to see to it I got my bachelors by the time I graduated high school. He called me a
    prodigy when I was 6 years old. I've been trying to live up to that since.

    So far, so good.

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Am I the only one that has no idea what this guy is talking about?

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Other items I didn't mention last night which are part of the over all plan.

    I know full well the history of suppressed inventions. I know the risk to my life
    could potentially be extreme. There is one mitigating circumstance which may
    prove to seduce those who would silence this work: Peak oil. It's come and gone
    with little fanfare.

    Tesla knew this when confronted by Morgan about his life work. The smaller petrol
    companies all know about it, dove in with investor money and promptly went bankrupt
    when crude dropped to $30. I'm well connected with the minor players and survivors
    of the recent oil shakeout. They trust my advice.

    My pitch is friggin simple. How would you like to not run out of oil for the next 200 years,
    instead of the next 50. Plain truth is, I have a way to stretch the existing crude supply at
    least 4 times its' expected duration.

    I spoke to a petroleum engineer about my work recently and he was elated. Gave me a
    business card and told me to call him.

    The mistake everyone else made who succeeded in over unity or free energy was not
    including major players. I don't intend to repeat that mistake.

    And I have a backup plan.

    If I am threatened, if any of mine are threatened in any way, if any attempt is made to
    silence my work I will translate the whole fucking thing into Chinese and publish.
    I will open source the whole thing.

    The amperage draw problem is not a problem. Really.
    I pitted a 10 watt resistor against a 1 volt coil last night. No increase in temp for the coil,
    no mechanical resistance exhibited. Done.

    The alpha model will prove I'm not joking.

    And since I'm on the side of big and small petrol companies, who stands to lose?
    Petrol companies get to keep doing what they do for another 200 years.
    I get very wealthy in the process.

    Wealth buys law, buys governments, buys everything.

    Right now is a bad time to be a feminazi.

    LP

    ps. Thanks, Mr. Wombat for bringing up these points to consider. Anyone else
    trying to do this would be wise to consider what you said. Good on ya, mate.
    I have done my homework. Wish me luck, friend.

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    @grimjack

    No. You are not the only one. Most people have no clue. Don't feel bad, you can learn anything you want to learn.
    If you don't want to learn it, spend your time where you want and learn something else instead.

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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    Quote Originally Posted by LastPriory View Post
    @grimjack

    No. You are not the only one. Most people have no clue. Don't feel bad, you can learn anything you want to learn.
    If you don't want to learn it, spend your time where you want and learn something else instead.
    I don't understand Zero-Lenz; I'm not an electrical engineer. But I do have two questions that I think are on-point:

    How much power (how many watts) are you putting into it?

    How much power (how many watts) are you getting out of it, for the above-stated input?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Am I the only one that has no idea what this guy is talking about?
    Basically a friction-less dynamo. The less friction you have, the more power you can get out of the setup relative to energy input.

    He's talking about "overunity" which is a fancy way of saying perpetual motion. As long as the parts of the dynamo are moving, the dynamo is producing electricity. Friction slows down these moving parts and will eventually stop them without some sort of energy input (like heat from fire producing steam pressure). Without friction, something in motion could remain in motion forever under the right circumstances. A dynamo moving forever would effectively produce free electricity, requiring only a little energy input to start it up in the first place.

    I don't really have a deep understanding electromagnetism, though. Wouldn't the magnetism involved create a sort of drag effect that could also slow the dynamo down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack View Post
    Am I the only one that has no idea what this guy is talking about?
    Hushhhh this guy is hilarious
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Basically a friction-less dynamo. The less friction you have, the more power you can get out of the setup relative to energy input.

    He's talking about "overunity" which is a fancy way of saying perpetual motion. As long as the parts of the dynamo are moving, the dynamo is producing electricity. Friction slows down these moving parts and will eventually stop them without some sort of energy input (like heat from fire producing steam pressure). Without friction, something in motion could remain in motion forever under the right circumstances. A dynamo moving forever would effectively produce free electricity, requiring only a little energy input to start it up in the first place.

    I don't really have a deep understanding electromagnetism, though. Wouldn't the magnetism involved create a sort of drag effect that could also slow the dynamo down?
    Therein lies my skepticism at any sort of Perpetual Motion scheme ... they always seem to fly in the face of the Three Laws of Thermogoddamics. (As articulated by Canada Bill Jones -- You can't win; you can't break even; you can't even quit the game.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post

    But I am certain that you have not been offered a large, blank cheque. Certain. And that means that you have crossed the line from being mistakenly enthusiastic about junk science to actively being a bullshitter.
    Yeah, sounds like BS to me too.
    Being that a blank cheque has no amount, it can hardly be 'large'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastPriory View Post
    I pitted a 10 watt resistor against a 1 volt coil last night. No increase in temp for the coil,
    no mechanical resistance exhibited. Done.
    How many ohms was this 10-watt resistor? Hooking up a resistor rated to carry 10 watts is not the same thing as actually drawing 10 watts. To draw 10 watts of a voltage drop of 1 v, you need a 0.1 ohm resistor. But even that won't do it, because you have the resistance of the coil itself to consider. If you are dealing with AC, then there's weird electrical engineering stuff (reactance) involved.

    I am just completely unconvinced, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Basically a friction-less dynamo. The less friction you have, the more power you can get out of the setup relative to energy input.

    He's talking about "overunity" which is a fancy way of saying perpetual motion. As long as the parts of the dynamo are moving, the dynamo is producing electricity. Friction slows down these moving parts and will eventually stop them without some sort of energy input (like heat from fire producing steam pressure). Without friction, something in motion could remain in motion forever under the right circumstances. A dynamo moving forever would effectively produce free electricity, requiring only a little energy input to start it up in the first place.
    There's more to it than just friction.

    Lenz's law is that whenever a moving magnetic field induces current in a conductor, the magnetic field of that induced current will always oppose the motion that generated it. I makes basic mechanical sense - to get work out of the system, you put work in, and you do that work by way of pushing against an opposing magnetic field generated by your motion.

    The simplest demo of this is neodymium magnet falling though a copper pipe.

    LastPriory's claim is that he has found a way to generate current without the armature of his generator experiencing opposing force from the magnetic field of the windings (or less force than you should expect). That is: zero lenz effect.

    The usual mistake people make, and which I think LastPriory is making, involves confusing force and work. Consider a 1-ton weight resting on the floor. A ton of force, but no work being done, no energy moving from place to place. Work is force times distance.

    In this context, work is voltage times current. If you have some massive coils swinging past each other that are open-circuit at the ends, there will be almost no current. There will be some due to self-capacitance in the coils, but this discharges itself through the coil and the net effect is zero. If there's almost no current, there's almost no magnetic field being created by that current and almost no force being experienced on the shaft.

    Put a load across those output coils, and the situation changes. As I said earlier, '10W' is not how we measure resistance - it's the rated maximum power before frying the component, that's all.

    With 16 coils I've got roughly 1,300% over unity on an 8 magnet rotor. 3 volts in = 16 volts out.
    You can easily get three volts in and 16 volts out by hooking up a transformer to an AC power source. Doesn't mean anything. People when first encountering transformers think "Sweet! I can get an arbitrary amount of power by stepping up the voltage to insane levels!" It doesn't work. What happens is that the very magnetic fields which generate all that voltage necessarily also limit the amount of current draw.

    For a simpler example than a transformer, consider a wire-wrapped-around-a-nail electromagnet. The naive thing to think is that you can make an electromagnet as powerful as you like, no matter how small your battery, simply by increasing the number of turns. Enough turns, and even with an AA battery you should be able to pick up as much weight as you like. It doesn't work. The more turns you add - even of theoretically ideal zero-resistance wire - the more reactance the coil has and the more it presents a resistance to any change in current. The battery has to work against this and what do you know, the total amount of work done turns out to be exactly equal (in the ideal scenario) to the energy in the resulting magnetic field, the energy available to pick up paper clips.

    I just don't believe it. People have been dicking around with this stuff for a century. No-one has found loopholes in the laws of nature yet, not even Tesla. I'm not even going to say - as I normally would - "I could be wrong". This over-unity generator is just another one in a long, long string of people (sorry, man, but I'm going to say it) misunderstanding physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    There's more to it than just friction.
    Thanks for that. I only have a very basic understanding of this stuff.

    If someone really wants to do something for "free" energy, figure out how to generate steam through solar power. Solar heat is abundant and has yet to be fully utilized. But I'm unaware of any way to build a useful terrestrial solar boiler (orbital solar boilers are another matter entirely), but anyone who did would be the Bill Gates of alternative energy. A solar boiler could be used to generate steam which could then be used to spin a dynamo and generate electricity. My understanding is that the problem isn't creating steam with solar power, it's creating sufficient steam.
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    Re: I achieved my objectives

    There are now solar voltaic systems that use mirrors to focus sun on a more condensed spot. They don't have to use as much semiconductor material that way. I bet you could go in that same direction to create steam.

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    Well Mr. Wombat beat me to the explanation as to getting 16 volts out of 3 volts meaning getting 3/16 output current compared to input current. SO I will say that if lastpriory really is on to something and that unlike previous inventors, he has big names lined up, then I wish him the best of luck and look forward to seeing his face on forbes or Times magazine as the potential bill gates of alternative energy usurping the tyranny of the fossil fuel dynasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    There are now solar voltaic systems that use mirrors to focus sun on a more condensed spot. They don't have to use as much semiconductor material that way. I bet you could go in that same direction to create steam.
    Not only can you, but you can get up to 72% efficency with them compaired to 29% with silicone or 35% with gallium arsenide. Most home made versons hover around 50% efficency.



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