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    30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    I'm seeing this story making the rounds regarding how little sex young men are having. I was going to post a link, but why bother. The story isn't the important part. What is funny to me all of the "explanation" pieces that are making the rounds. The reasons proffered are mostly:

    men aren't growing up
    men aren't working
    men are still living at home

    You know, the usual failure to launch crap. You see these men just aren't attractive to the modern go-getter girl.

    Not one story yet has even gotten close to the fact that maybe it is men who are starting to be selective. I think MGTOW really might be able to change the world, simply because society in general won't even look at it as a real thing because they have already written MGTOW off. The thought that modern women might actually be the problem won't even be considered until long after western civilization falls off the cliff.

    The stories do conclude what we already know about women though. They prefer older men, and fewer men are having sex with more women. The true nature of women is now being admitted to publicly. I didn't think that would ever really happen like it is.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Then as now, women like who they like. Had I wanted fat, or dumb, there was a wide selection available. But I couldn't buy a date with anybody I really wanted, and I wasn't trying for cheerleaders. Damn near everybody thought they could do better. How'd that work out ladies? Hope you like your cats and wine.
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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    This study was recently discussed here. One reply said that societies can fall when so many men leave the marriage party. How many of those men will marry in their 30s if they cant have sex once in 12 months in their 20s?

    And for the other 70%, how many will marry in their 30s?

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    when one has what makes them "them" is nearly constantly held against them... what did they expect???

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Then as now, women like who they like. Had I wanted fat, or dumb, there was a wide selection available. But I couldn't buy a date with anybody I really wanted, and I wasn't trying for cheerleaders. Damn near everybody thought they could do better. How'd that work out ladies? Hope you like your cats and wine.

    Two's and three's rejecting seven's and eight's whilst waiting for a nine or a ten.

    And on and on it goes....no matter the age.

    All women are 10's. (In their own heads)

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Keyknob View Post
    Two's and three's rejecting seven's and eight's whilst waiting for a nine or a ten.

    And on and on it goes....no matter the age.

    All women are 10's. (In their own heads)
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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Females make sex into politics nowadays, it's transactional, ideological, or a mix of the two. Females just simply aren't interested in going out, having a decent time, finding a half-decent man and saying yes when he asks them to go back to his place or a hotel.

    Unless it's a chad or a tyrone, but even chads and tyrones have to deal with depressed females and their issues about sex and anxiety around sex.

    Even if you end up having sex, it just isn't even satisfying, raw or primal anymore. Whatever happened to a woman and a man meeting in a bar/club, dancing/drinking the night away, and having exciting raw sex afterwards?

    With the rise of SJWism, sex became political, that is what happened. And when sex becomes political, it becomes a turn off.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Females make sex into politics nowadays, it's transactional, ideological, or a mix of the two. Females just simply aren't interested in going out, having a decent time, finding a half-decent man and saying yes when he asks them to go back to his place or a hotel.

    Unless it's a chad or a tyrone, but even chads and tyrones have to deal with depressed females and their issues about sex and anxiety around sex.

    Even if you end up having sex, it just isn't even satisfying, raw or primal anymore. Whatever happened to a woman and a man meeting in a bar/club, dancing/drinking the night away, and having exciting raw sex afterwards?

    With the rise of SJWism, sex became political, that is what happened. And when sex becomes political, it becomes a turn off.
    Agree on that, the sex I had with "modern women" has been so low in terms of satisfaction that I can recall certain fapping sessione that got me more pleasure.

    They simply cant do anything about stressing you, power tripping, mind fvcking in the most creative ways...nothing instinctual and human remains and it all starts right from then flirting phase till the d1ck inside.

    I recall in the first half of the 10s it wasnt as bad as now, it slowly became this crappy from mid 10s and getting worse.

    As if facebook and instagram didnt make things unpleasable enough.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Agree on that, the sex I had with "modern women" has been so low in terms of satisfaction that I can recall certain fapping sessione that got me more pleasure.
    Pornography is quite amazing in that it understands the primal instinct of men; and it caters to it. Women destroy any sexual pleasure because as you have elaborated, it's a power play from the 'flirting' all the way to the penetration. Almost like you are dealing with two subjectivistic minds misunderstanding and misinterpreting each other from start to finish; hence no connection even with the sex.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    With the rise of SJWism, sex became political, that is what happened. And when sex becomes political, it becomes a turn off.
    And, if a woman deigns to have sex with a guy whose politics are similar, for sure that guy's going to be a blue-piller lib -- exactly the kind of guy she (instinctively, at her core) has little tolerance for.

    Women have painted themselves into a corner. And I'll add: Men had nothing whatsoever to do with this. It was entirely self-inflicted.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    The problem is women just don't bring anything else to the table anymore. For the top 5-10% or so of men, who most of them will have sex with quickly and with zero commitment, it's an okay deal. But for the average guy, who is getting interest from mostly fat girls, drug addicts, single mothers, used up post wall whores, and other losers, where's the incentive?

    Even if these women were giving it up freely, like they did with the dozens/hundreds of Chads before the average guy, it would still barely be worth the effort. But these women have INSANE expectations. They expect the guy to pay for everything; to pay off her student loans and other toxic debts; to take care of and pay for her children; to buy her an expensive wedding, car, and house; and so on.

    And then even if he does all that, she will still cheat on him. She will divorce him, take half of everything he's ever earned, and take his children away from him if they had any. She won't do anything else to add value to his life, other than spreading her legs, and even then he won't be getting much from her. She will sit around on her ass all day while he is out working to pay the bills, and while he is working himself to death, she will be finding clever and creative ways of destroying his life.

    It just isn't worth it. It's no wonder men aren't having sex, marrying, or having kids; ESPECIALLY not successful men, who have the most to lose. They can keep shaming men and pretending women are innocent victims with zero accountability, but I guarantee you that will only ensure that these trends continue for a long, LONG time.

    Women are happy when they are younger, getting fucked by a different chad every week, having guys throwing money and favors at them, and they think it will never end. But wait until they reach their 30's. While the guys they rejected and ignored are entering their peak, making money and achieving success, they will be living in poverty until they die. They will be lucky if they can even attract other poor, unattractive losers like them, but even if they can, their hypergamy will not allow them to settle.

    Their nature virtually ensures they will all die poor, miserable, and alone. I say good; that's exactly what they've earned, and what they deserve.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    It was a nice evening, so I took a walk at the lake park trail like many others did. I was behind 3 older women gossiping loudly, mainly about who so and so is dating and how much money he makes. I heard a, 'she can do so much better' and another time when the guy made less money the witches cackled

    the feminists are even shaming women that want to date a man that makes less the her.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    There is no honor among the Hive members, they are always fighting to improve or maintain their status within the Hive. No doubt, shaming will be used along with any other available tool to bring down the other Hive members. Just think about it, Hive members are surrounded by other women who wish for ill to befall everyone else, so that their own status might increase.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Pornography is quite amazing in that it understands the primal instinct of men; and it caters to it. Women destroy any sexual pleasure because as you have elaborated, it's a power play from the 'flirting' all the way to the penetration. Almost like you are dealing with two subjectivistic minds misunderstanding and misinterpreting each other from start to finish; hence no connection even with the sex.
    Words "power play" popped into my head before I even saw your post. My words exactly. It's a fucking power play - isn't that what feminism today is ALL about?!
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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Regarding that 30% of men not having sex and therefore not investing in women, lets keep in mind the effect of relationships and kids on a man behaviour.

    A married man usually puts aside many riskful behaviours, antisocial behaviours and generally feels like investing in society and his own neightbourhood thus reducing conflict overall.

    Once this critical mass of men with nothing to lose but everything to gain through bad behaviour and rule violations get ignited, society wont be as stable as now.

    If they think a man with no stability is unstable, try to imagine a hundreds of sex starved, jobless, angry men watching those similar to them going medieval in their surroudings; they think those men who do not help women attacked on the subway but move away are a problem...wait untill those men will openly say that they are done paying taxes that dont go back at them and will take those money back one way or an other.

    The funny thing is that women along as other subjects enjoying the current setting are the one less likely doing something to keep it running, instead it seems they do their best to screw it.
    Average dudes trying their best on their work shift are ignored as boring then milked from taxes and services while problematic individuals that take more than they give are rewarded with sex and welfare.

    This is a recipe for disaster, imagine athlas shrugged that meets michaels douglas in falling down.

    Society is made in a way that precludes decent sex and validation to a huge portion of men while at the same time mock men who cant get laid as if they are lesser men, great idea.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    Words "power play" popped into my head before I even saw your post. My words exactly. It's a fucking power play - isn't that what feminism today is ALL about?!
    Precisely. It's all about hatred of the male sex, expressed in attempts to dominate, control, and eventually subjugate. And hopefully using lots of males (The State, with its ability to exercise physical force) to accomplish that goal, which is the whole irony of it; that fact alone strips feminists of all honor.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Jackal, while you postulate the hordes of "angry young men with nothing to lose" engaged in an active means of rebelling against society and the gyno plantation and this may well come to pass as society collapses, don't forget the other, less obvious means of leaving the plantation and society in general.
    Yes, the average dudes are the ones who keep much of society running. But they don't have to openly rebel, they can merely stop being over worked draft horses. All of the men who decided to not be worked to death by high stress jobs and chose a less demanding job since they only have to support themselves. The men who work hard and then take an early retirement. Or ones like me who decide to only work part time once they have their careers established. None of them are making a fuss in the streets, but their cumulative effect could well collapse society. Without the excess productive capacity of these men being used to support society, the parasites on society, such as most women, will eventually cause collapse. That's in addition to other factors straining society such as excessive amounts of government, debauched currencies, increasing energy costs, ect.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Quote Originally Posted by ABigSiameseCat View Post
    Jackal, while you postulate the hordes of "angry young men with nothing to lose" engaged in an active means of rebelling against society and the gyno plantation and this may well come to pass as society collapses, don't forget the other, less obvious means of leaving the plantation and society in general.
    Yes, the average dudes are the ones who keep much of society running. But they don't have to openly rebel, they can merely stop being over worked draft horses. All of the men who decided to not be worked to death by high stress jobs and chose a less demanding job since they only have to support themselves. The men who work hard and then take an early retirement. Or ones like me who decide to only work part time once they have their careers established. None of them are making a fuss in the streets, but their cumulative effect could well collapse society. Without the excess productive capacity of these men being used to support society, the parasites on society, such as most women, will eventually cause collapse. That's in addition to other factors straining society such as excessive amounts of government, debauched currencies, increasing energy costs, ect.
    I undestand your point and it makes plenty of sense, thats in my opinion what will happen in the Us and other civilized countries.

    At the same time I imagine a different scenario in many european countries, you probably saw all the riots in sweden, britain and france that were mostly begun from minority youth but then joined from local youth with nothing to lose and plenty to gain from that in terms of blowing steam and getting that plasma screen they liked so much.

    Also I guess you are in your 30s so used to see young people thinking and behaving in a certain way, same for me except that the more I deal with late teen and early 20s guys, the more I see how different they are from us.

    They have the special snowflake mindset coupled with a really poor self control, they werent educated to self control as much as us and no need to mention their lack of ethics, also the part about early retirement or part time working needs people to have a job which is not the case in certain demographics, even if they had a low stress job that wouldnt allow them to bang chicks or buy fancy clothes and electronics...a narcisistic generation simply cant deal with that.

    Add to the mix the stress coming from seing women passing them ahead wheter they deserve it or not at the school/work or even at the bar queue, I believe personal conflicts are as heavy as economical issues in the long run.

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    Good reply, Jackal! I don't interact at all with the group of men you describe. Architects, General Contractors, and Senior Heavy Equipment Operators are the sorts I interact with ages from 30's to 50's. No snowflakes, they are, as you point out, the older generation used to self discipline and hard work and for whom steady high paying jobs look for the men, not the other way around.
    The youths you describe with no career prospects, no steady employment, poor impulse control and a sense of entitlement seem like explosives waiting for the fuse to be lit. (Well, actually 9V battery is used for the commercial explosives, much fun to watch.)

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    Re: 30% of men between 18 and 30 are having no sex at all

    I must say, I do not share some of the fellow MGTOW's interpretation of 'civilisational decline' due to the overreach of the gynocracy.

    .GOV will simply print more money, raise taxes or shift more resources to cunts.

    I have always maintained that the reason men are fucked is precisely because MEN DO NOT MAKE A FUSS when they encounter an injustice.

    When was the last time you complained at a restaurant, gym, hotel which didn't give you your value for money? Or when was the last time you felt entitled to social benefits?

    Not telling people how to live their lives, but it is just one way to interpret things.


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