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    Were 1950s men simps?

    The question came up elsewhere.

    I say no.

    To Redfather and anyone else that thinks that 1950s American men were "simps." Don't think so. Those 1950s men:
    - had won WWII,
    - held back the Chinese hordes in Korea,
    - could support an entire family on just one salary,
    - weren't in debt up to their eyeballs in student loan or credit card debt,
    - weren't stabbed in the back by their wives or family court,
    - weren't deathly afraid of carbs or gluten,
    - would kill anyone who molested their kids or had sex with their wives and knew no jury would convict them,
    - could pay ALL of their taxes with just one day's worth of their wages,

    - could drive 95 miles per hour on some highways, highways that were new and glassy smooth
    - could forget to lock the front door of his house at night an not panic
    - swatted his kid's behind if the kid got disrespectful and if Child Protective Services were called, would be commended
    - didn't get molested by TSA when they flew on airplanes,
    - didn't lose his job to an illegal immigrant or H1B visa holder or pay for his health insurance,
    - liked his coffee the way he liked his women when he was stationed in Guam or Tahiti: hot, brown, and sweet. Star-what?
    - could call a doctor and have the doctor make a house call and then pay him with the cash in their wallet,
    - could buy a rifle at the local department store, put that rifle on the rack in the back of their pick-up, and wave at passing cops as he drove to the elementary school to pick up his kid
    - and knew why every other working stiff in the world would trade places with them him if they could.
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    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

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    - had a daddy, not a "baby daddy," or no daddy at all.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    I see the automation and safety practices we have today and say no way were they wimps! They were industrial fodder if they were anything at all! Crazy sick hours in dangerous, toxic, and life robbing conditions! Mining, forestry, construction, you name it, automation and safety have come a long way! Now robots do all the heavy lifting, welding, machining, painting and other tasks that were performed by men.

    Lets have some sacrificial loss of life limb equality between the genders, lets return to the 50s and use the women instead, as industrial paste in the gears of industry! We'll stay home, fuck off, and maybe cook dinner if we feel like it!

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I see the automation and safety practices we have today and say no way were they wimps! They were industrial fodder if they were anything at all! Crazy sick hours in dangerous, toxic, and life robbing conditions! Mining, forestry, construction, you name it, automation and safety have come a long way! Now robots do all the heavy lifting, welding, machining, painting and other tasks that were performed by men.

    Lets have some sacrificial loss of life limb equality between the genders, lets return to the 50s and use the women instead, as industrial paste in the gears of industry! We'll stay home, fuck off, and maybe cook dinner if we feel like it!
    Believe me if I was Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet and can change reality at the snap of a finger, the first thing I would do with my power is make that second paragraph of yours come true.

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Quote Originally Posted by #Redpillbible View Post
    Believe me if I was Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet and can change reality at the snap of a finger, the first thing I would do with my power is make that second paragraph of yours come true.
    Top it off with a little ingratitude and ignorance and you have exactly what happened to men! In other words, justice served and no longer denied...

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I see the automation and safety practices we have today and say no way were they wimps! They were industrial fodder if they were anything at all! Crazy sick hours in dangerous, toxic, and life robbing conditions! Mining, forestry, construction, you name it, automation and safety have come a long way! Now robots do all the heavy lifting, welding, machining, painting and other tasks that were performed by men.

    Lets have some sacrificial loss of life limb equality between the genders, lets return to the 50s and use the women instead, as industrial paste in the gears of industry! We'll stay home, fuck off, and maybe cook dinner if we feel like it!
    Nowadays it's:
    - keep your wife at home (OMG you fucking patriarchal asshole!)
    - ask her to work too (OMG how dare you force her to work?! Asshole!)
    - let her work and you stay at home (OMG you fucking pathetic manbaby! Living off her money while you slack around? She's not your mom! Asshole!)

    You just can't win, so why play?
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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    ^^^^That's ^^^^ what I call "full circle"...

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
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    - had a daddy, not a "baby daddy," or no daddy at all.
    You know this reminds me, there was less abortions in the 1950’s and abortions where illegal in New York at that time, what a long way this shithole baby murdering society has come.

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Resdayn View Post
    Nowadays it's:
    - keep your wife at home (OMG you fucking patriarchal asshole!)
    - ask her to work too (OMG how dare you force her to work?! Asshole!)
    - let her work and you stay at home (OMG you fucking pathetic manbaby! Living off her money while you slack around? She's not your mom! Asshole!)

    You just can't win, so why play?

    A classic example.

    Christopher Hitchens allowing his wife to make her OWN choice about working - and is still called a sexist dinosaur.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Resdayn View Post
    Nowadays it's:
    - keep your wife at home (OMG you fucking patriarchal asshole!)
    - ask her to work too (OMG how dare you force her to work?! Asshole!)
    - let her work and you stay at home (OMG you fucking pathetic manbaby! Living off her money while you slack around? She's not your mom! Asshole!)

    You just can't win, so why play?
    You don't play.

    But you don't call it a game, either.

    It is not a game.

    It is what we call in the military "an L-shaped ambush."

    The "L" does not stand for "Libtard," but because in this kind of ambush, you are first fired upon from the front, then, when you try to go to the left or the right to avoid the fire, you encounter more enemy forces firing upon you on one side, and Claymore mines/boobytraps/indirect fire from mortars and/or grenade launchers on the other.

    Once sprung, there is no escaping this ambush. The only way to survive is to charge through it, with ferocity, and even then, casualties will be high.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Hey Sam Louis Obispo, you have to clear space in your messaging system before you can receive more messages, that’s what it told me when I tried sending you the pm.

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    My guess is the 50's was when the first batch of simps was born. If you think of the year 1968 two things come to mind. Vietnam and hippies. Strange mix but definitely a major shift happened

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    When I was a little kid in the mid 60's I witnessed the last bastions of gender uniformity from a bygone day when boys had short hair, girls had long hair, by the 70's that was obscured and fading quickly, the economy was poor and single mothers were on a steep upswing. I watched society unravel bit by bit and piece by piece, only remnants remain as all that became history. I have no purpose or connection to what's expected of men today, only because what they demand is that I surrender to their modern form of bondage and slavery. They made life unbearable and we can see how they weave this cultural poison into every facet of society we see today. I'll have no part of their poison that surrounds me today and likely the rest of my life. They can journey to hell on their own!

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Wasn't much of a safety net for men back then. The government didn't care, and there were plenty of hobos riding the rails to prove it. There were not as many of them as todays homeless, but they weren't rare. The hobos took better care of themselves too.


    The fifties were hell on lazy people, or at least lazy men. Blue collar types had to take manly man jobs rather they liked it or not, and believe me, some didn't. But they had no choice. Jobs like pumping gas or bagging groceries were for teenagers, they couldn't pay the bills. Of course the lame and the lazy countered hard work by becoming Olympic class boat anchors, thus driving their coworkers crazy, but that's another story.
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    I am 100% for progressive, Neo-Liberal, SJW, Marxist, Communist and Socialist woman terminating each and every pregnancy. Try to stop people who should not be reproducing in the first place from aborting makes zero sense, unless seen through a religious lens. Even then, the extreme left (fuck it. The Alt-Left) wants to get rid of all religions but one which will rename nameless. But it rhymes with shizlam.
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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Wasn't much of a safety net for men back then. The government didn't care, and there were plenty of hobos riding the rails to prove it. There were not as many of them as todays homeless, but they weren't rare. The hobos took better care of themselves too.
    "Hobos" travel and work.
    "Tramps" travel around, but do not work.
    "Bums" neither travel, nor work.

    I was binge watching the 1960s TV show "The Fugitive." After a few episodes, I was amazed by two things.

    First, how hard the star of the show worked. He was in every episode, and every season, there were 30 (yes thirty!) episodes per season! Even if it only took a week to shoot each episode, that meant that, for 30 weeks of the year, he was on location, sometimes in different towns, working.

    Second, I was amazed at how much the character worked. In almost every episode, the character, a physician wrongly accused of murdering his wife and a fugitive from justice, was travelling around the country. And in almost every episode, he was WORKING! There so many jobs in the 1960s economy, that this guy could go town to town, finding work.

    [/QUOTE] The fifties were hell on lazy people, or at least lazy men. Blue collar types had to take manly man jobs rather they liked it or not, and believe me, some didn't. But they had no choice. Jobs like pumping gas or bagging groceries were for teenagers, they couldn't pay the bills. Of course the lame and the lazy countered hard work by becoming Olympic class boat anchors, thus driving their coworkers crazy, but that's another story.[/QUOTE]

    Not necessarily. There were many places where jobs like that were done by grown up men, and while they did not live large, they could support themselves, especially outside of the high cost coastal big cities. I recall a 1960s advertisement for McDonalds, where, trying to convince customers that these new fangled fast food places where clean, showcased a crew of adult men manning the store, in a musical number where they were singing and keeping the place spic and span. I jibed with my observation of who was working in McDonalds in the late 1960's, up until the mid-1970s. I recall all those low skill jobs being that way.

    What cheapened their labor was the encouragement of homemakers to abandon raising their children and get into the workplace. Years later, would come some primitive automation.

    I remember watching a TV news story about the newly invented self-service gas pump. BAck then, before everyone had a credit card, you would insert either a one dollar or five dollar bill, but you did not get change back. When I saw that, I said to myself: "Insert a $5 bill? Gas costs 17 cents a gallon. Who would need $5 worth of gas?" That was in 1971 or so, two years before the oil crisis.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    There were many places where jobs like that were done by grown up men, and while they did not live large, they could support themselves, especially outside of the high cost coastal big cities.
    As a kid in the 60s, my family traveled by station wagon from coast to coast and back and, even at our final destinations, and anywhere else, yeah I recall grown men pumping the gas. There may have been teenage boys but I remember grown men. These men came out from their building when your car's tires would run over the driveway signal hose to ring the bell. They were not just gas stations but service stations with two bays for working on cars, so I figured these grown men also worked on the cars to make their pay.

    Back then, a lot of the roadside service stations along the highways did not advertise their price of gas on signs so you had to pull up to the pump to see the price in that little bitty window on the gas pump. They figured that they had you. Many a time my dad would pull up to the pumps, ding ding, see the price, then drive off as the man was coming out to pump. Occasionally, you'd see a reaction from the guy. Of course they didn't like to interrupt what they were doing just to see us drive off with no sale. With no signs out front, I always thought they counted on your lack of guts to disagree with the price and drive off.
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    Cool story, Unboxxed.

    Ah, the road trips: Good roads, cheap gas, inexpensive hotels, having to find the good places to eat in each local area (versus just pulling into the same cloned fast food franchise in town after town.)

    In some ways, 1960s man had it good.

    If you had to pick a marginal character - not one of the big time ad execs - in the TV series Mad Man, and had to switch lives with that character, who would you be?
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Were 1950s men simps?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Cool story, Unboxxed.

    Ah, the road trips: Good roads, cheap gas, inexpensive hotels, having to find the good places to eat in each local area (versus just pulling into the same cloned fast food franchise in town after town.)

    In some ways, 1960s man had it good.

    If you had to pick a marginal character - not one of the big time ad execs - in the TV series Mad Man, and had to switch lives with that character, who would you be?
    I forgot to say that we were a huge station wagon with two adults and six kids, who could be surprised that the old man was price-conscious at the gas pumps of these roadside gougers? LOL

    You know, I have never seen Mad Men! I've only heard about its maniacal devotion to historical accuracy of their props. I will say that, one nice thing about being my age is that I was aware in the 60s, maybe not adult awareness, but as a youngster, and I wouldn't trade the experience of that for anything. Do you remember when grocery stores (and gas stations) had screen doors, and made of wood? The buildings weren't always spiffy or built the same way like everywhere you look nowadays. They could have wood porches, maybe conversions from private homes or part of a private home.

    And bottle pop machines where you opened the long vertical glass door to pull out the bottle by the bottle cap end? And you left the empty bottles in branded wood crates left next to the machines? And where you dropped off your empties may not be the same gas station as where you bought the pop. Ha, too often the gas stations carried off-brand snacks for the time, like Tom's. Snooping in the coin return slots of pay phones hoping for a coin?

    Traveling across country in the 60s, with a rack on top of the station wagon packed full, I remember we pitched a tent in Little Rock, Arkansas, among other places, versus staying in a motel. Man, that heavy canvas tent. We passed through Atlanta, Georgia in the middle of the night right after MLK was assassinated and we didn't know there was a curfew because of it. (MLK died in Memphis but was born in Atlanta.)

    I'll tell you what, old TV episodes of Route 66 and Highway Patrol is like time travel to me. I try to retrofit my adult knowledge into those youthful days, to get a better take on it. I wish I had asked my parents more about back then. But, then, younger people today are not asking me, either. The way it goes.

    What about you? Although I don't know Mad Men, maybe you can tell me anyway.
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