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    10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    Listverse is kind of click-baitey, but this is a good article.

    10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing - Listverse

    some contend that Western society has also brought us the enslavement of blacks, the exploitation of indigenous cultures, and a global hegemony that diminishes the overall well-being of mankind. These detractors have set out to dismantle the fruits of Western civilization, decrying the legacy of European culture as a “patriarchy” that systematically oppresses women, minorities, and fringe groups while upholding the values of “white male privilege.”

    Gender Fluidity


    The Collapse Of The Family


    The Rising Dominance Of Virtual Worlds


    Fusion With Technology


    Mass Immigration From Undeveloped Countries


    Inequality Under The Law


    Erasure Of History


    Rising Financial Inequality


    Drug Abuse


    Nihilism

    If you're a Christian, the Bible foretold of all of this:

    “But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power…” (2 Timothy 3:1-5).

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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    We can see the signs all over. Merkel's famous hand sign, the Merkel rhombus, is actually the sign of the whore of Babylon (alternatively it is the well-known freemasonic sign). The EU parliament looks like the tower of Babel.

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    I don't like having cultural hypothesis and theories, but here is a biological and cultural one: class. Both the UK and USA have a history of losing class distinctions. Everyone knows about the color-coded Indian class system.

    The British class system supposedly started waning during the hippie years, commercialization, and now the 'mono-culture'. I think the British had a very distinct class system with accent, language, and dress. People know about rich people being rich. I think there is much more 'old money' and inherited wealth than the USA.

    Some research in "The Son Also Rises" by economist Gregory Clark argues that historically genetics is responsible for both wealth and brains, as well as appearance. He says that the lucky, modern 'new money' actually dilutes the quality of 'old money'. This is proven by the patterns of inherited wealth during the modern socio-political times. Contrary to the capitalist system rising the best to the top, it interbreeds luck with skill for a negative effect.

    He studies true 'old money', going back 10-20+ generations to Stefan Molyneux's "warrior class". This is old money based on primitive and biological or mental skill rather than commercial success and market luck. Gregory Clark has some great studies.

    I don't know how British wealth changed over the years, but I have read about USA wealth changing during the Opium Trade and Great Depression in some books: The China mirage : the hidden history of American disaster in Asia by James Bradley and America's first adventure in China : trade, treaties, opium, and salvation by John R. Haddad.

    The more mono-culture and mixing of talents, the more people will be average. The more people are segregated according to ability, the more they will excel, reproduce, and refine those inherited abilities.

    Further, the class system encourages marriage by the existence of a 'system' to marry within. Otherwise, we marry for other reasons, like love, desire, and 'posterity'. The problem with marrying for posterity is that there is very little inherited wealth to pass-on to the next generation. The next generation has less ability to discern and differentiate between their future partners.

    We are also getting married later in life. Rich guys like Dale Jr and Tony Stewart are marrying and impregnating 35 year olds as we speak. They will inherit money, but they have a poor chance at success based on the quality of their mother's eggs and reproduction ability during her near-infertile years. They are making tragic decisions. Hopefully, they use Gattaca (movie) style technology to fix their retarded children.

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    I think class is the essence of the emerging argument against diversity and towards 'ethno-nationalism'. Class is not racist, as there has always been class in the UK and India. Class is more a social distinction than a racial distinction. Class makes society more structured, and I believe functional. It may sound bad to think about society as a machine now that we use computers and automation so much, but maybe eventually we will accept that both society and people are biological machines.
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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    I agree with Wool's post above. We have the extreme opposite- every kid is told they're going to be a CEO and odds are 100:1 he's not going to be. Whether we do it by class or just setting realistic expectations, it would go a long way for people to be satisfied with where they are versus dwelling on where they're not.

    Adding to the OP's list:

    * Why is every child today a screaming fucking brat? (I chewed out a father in the lobby of my condo building because of his screaming children in the common area; it's becoming a regular thing for me). Why does every kid have no manners or decency; and the same with their entitled breeder parents?

    * Why are people so self-absorbed, there's zero consideration for others?

    * Why have TV values superceded ordinary values. On TV, someone is only worthwhile if they're "interesting" or "quirky". Moral, decent people are boring. But people spend 40 hours a week on TV; meaning MORE time than they spend socially with others outside of work/school. So is who defining our social reality? We are so atomized and independent of a group or tribe we don't measure someone's goodness- which used to matter a lot as we could trust and rely on them. Now we only rely on our atomized labor and our paycheck.

    The West is being divided by a sinister elite along various lines. They think they're clever but the center will not hold and they will kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

    I also blame freedom-absolutists. You don't need or want infinite freedom. You want great social outcomes and cohesion. You want a terrific culture where good people are rewarded and bad people are held accountable. A government that can deliver those social outcomes will be the best government. It's not about GDP dick-measuring.

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    some contend that Western society has also brought us the enslavement of blacks
    The African Negroes were enslaved by African Arabs - and this is still the case today. There are slave markets still operating right now.

    Remember that TV show "Roots"? Where the white men got off their ships and attacked villages and capture the proud warrior men? Bullshit. Who in their right mind would want a proud warrior man, an experienced adult killer, as a slave? The traders bought their african slaves off the other africans that already owned them. The traders were merchants, not soldiers. The slave ships did not have quarters for troops.

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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    Here is a looooong youtube video from a great philosopher.Stefan molyneux.There is a shorter one, about 23 min,on his youtube channel as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7rdCYCQ_U
    To be honest,I am not a religious person, but it may be great for our planet, if our civilisation goes to hell.....just saying.

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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    Here is another youtuber I follow with great interest.A must watch for men with balls, but dont show this to your children, if you have any! Its scary shit.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGQn1TlVNg
    just one of many videos he has.Actually one of the reasons,I have sold my house, and will move to Thailand,to have a great end, to my life! Enjoy!(I will move on june 1 or 2,this year!)

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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    Quote Originally Posted by Eskorteprinsen View Post
    Here is a looooong youtube video from a great philosopher.Stefan molyneux.There is a shorter one, about 23 min,on his youtube channel as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7rdCYCQ_U
    To be honest,I am not a religious person, but it may be great for our planet, if our civilisation goes to hell.....just saying.
    Well every end is potentially a new beginning. At this stage I'm not sure if western civilization is even worth saving anymore - or whether indeed it CAN be saved. There's just too much decadence and degeneracy all around us, we've basically turned into an amoral hedonistic shitshow. There's nothing wrong with that in moderation, I'm not a big fan of moral preaching or all too "virtuous" anti-hedonistic behaviour either ... but you can't build a stable society on this decadence.
    So long story short - a collapse, however terrible, may be preferrable to a long agonizing death of civilization as it gives us a chance to reboot this rotten system.
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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    It's almost seditious that some people imply that it seems as if we would be better off if someone dropped a bunch of bombs on a bunch of degenerate cities that control media and money, not that I would imply that, hence the weasel words.

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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    All these troubles are symptoms. The real problem is there's more of us than this mudball can support. That cant be fixed, even if we were trying, and it don't appear that we are.

    How long before the crash or how long it takes, who knows? But we can only support what we got now for awhile.
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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    Quote Originally Posted by Eskorteprinsen View Post
    Here is another youtuber I follow with great interest.A must watch for men with balls, but dont show this to your children, if you have any! Its scary shit.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGQn1TlVNg
    just one of many videos he has.Actually one of the reasons,I have sold my house, and will move to Thailand,to have a great end, to my life! Enjoy!(I will move on june 1 or 2,this year!)
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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    Quote Originally Posted by Eskorteprinsen View Post
    Here is another youtuber I follow with great interest.A must watch for men with balls, but dont show this to your children, if you have any! Its scary shit.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGQn1TlVNg
    just one of many videos he has.Actually one of the reasons,I have sold my house, and will move to Thailand,to have a great end, to my life! Enjoy!(I will move on june 1 or 2,this year!)
    That guy is nuts, and from what I have discovered, is also a sexual predator. We are not all going to die in 6 months. There will be a slow decline over the coming decades, and maybe we will be able to adapt as a species once we are forced to. Some people love to dwell in negativity, like most of the climate collapse community. There is also evidence that in the past the planet was still habitable during periods with no ice over the arctic. If you are truly worried about this kind of thing my advice would be to live minimal, keep watching for patterns and be prepared to move before the masses.

    Good luck with your move to Thailand. There are many people out there doing exactly what you are doing. Just don't trust anybody. I think you will have the best years of your life. I see myself doing the same thing later in my life. It would be great if you can share how you are getting on.

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    Re: 10 Indications That Western Society Is Collapsing

    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    That guy is nuts, and from what I have discovered, is also a sexual predator. We are not all going to die in 6 months. There will be a slow decline over the coming decades, and maybe we will be able to adapt as a species once we are forced to. Some people love to dwell in negativity, like most of the climate collapse community. There is also evidence that in the past the planet was still habitable during periods with no ice over the arctic. If you are truly worried about this kind of thing my advice would be to live minimal, keep watching for patterns and be prepared to move before the masses.

    Good luck with your move to Thailand. There are many people out there doing exactly what you are doing. Just don't trust anybody. I think you will have the best years of your life. I see myself doing the same thing later in my life. It would be great if you can share how you are getting on.
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