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    It was about time...

    Well, I figure it's about time I "decloaked" -- been lurking since Nacho's forums, although it took me a little while to find the new one, so I missed a bit and had some "catching up" to do!

    At any rate, mostly I wanted to create an account to thank you all. In case you ever wonder whether what you do and what you say helps others, I can certainly say that the answer is a resounding yes -- so if I can be so presumptuous as to speak for all the lurkers, a big "thank you" is certainly in order.

    Besides, it's been getting harder and harder for me to resist the temptation to join in the fray. Resistance is futile...

    How did I get here? I found an interesting quote by Dr. Feynman stating that you are who you are, and if anyone else has expectations of who you should be, then that's their problem and not yours. I was fascinated, and when I googled the quote looking for discussion, much to my surprise there was pretty much zero. Unless, of course, one counts that someone posted the quote on the old boards, and once that rabbit hole was entered, the rest is history.

    About myself and relationships -- well, I was the dumb beta at the end of the carousel who she knew "would take good care of me" -- exact words. Twenty plus years later, here I am.

    No children, for which I am inordinately pleased -- and even better, neither of us wants them.

    At this point, I have a half-decent set up, at least for being married; we both work, and have our own separate accounts and retirement, cars, etc.; and don't own a home together. We each have our hobbies and interests that we are free to pursue, and if one of us chooses to go along for an event of the other's, we have an arrangement that the center of attention will be the hobby and not the other person.

    I guess in all, could be better -- but damn, could be a hell of a lot worse based on what some of you gents have suffered. Note that this is 100% stated in sympathy, and not meant to rub salt in the wounds.

    I have no illusions that even though we have our own separate setups, I wouldn't be taken to the cleaners if we split -- I outproduce her by a solid margin.

    That being said, I absolutely 100% would never get involved again, either if we do go our separate ways or if I manage to outlive her. I knew before finding this haven that I would never marry again under any circumstances, but that has further solidified into the firm knowledge that I would simply ghost in that circumstance. Months spent observing women at work, girlfriends/wives of friends, females in the social circles, casual conversations overheard on the street, etc. has really hammered home what my eyes have been opened to -- and it's really kind of scary how obvious it all should have been all along; yet never was.

    At any rate, enough rambling!
    Pain is unavoidable. Suffering is optional.

    "Love is for poets." -- Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod

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    Re: It was about time...

    I've seen married men contribute some pretty impressive content in the past, sharing their experiences with the un-initiated like myself. In fact it has been the married men I have known that kept me out of falling down into the abyss.

    Welcome!

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    Re: It was about time...

    Welcome to the forum, Victor. It is good to see that this forum helps lurkers.

    To all the other lurkers with similar experiences: You are not alone and you are not crazy!

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    Re: It was about time...

    Welcome victor.

    I am married too btw. almost 30 years.
    No matter how attractive a woman is. No matter how beautiful she is. Somewhere, out there, some guy is sick of her shit.

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    Re: It was about time...

    Welcome to the forum

    Nice intro.

    As marriage goes you seem to have a livable situation.
    Hope it stays that way for you.
    "People are always angry at anyone who chooses very individual standards for his life; because of the extraordinary treatment which that man grants to himself, they feel degraded, like ordinary beings."
    - Nietzsche


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    Re: It was about time...

    Thanks, gents! It feels good to be with "my people".

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    Re: It was about time...

    Hi, welcome fellow newbie!
    Isaiah 4:1 (KJV)
    And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.


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    Stuck his willy in a fast filly
    She regrets
    And now his pets
    Are the rats in his cell
    But she's doing well!

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    Re: It was about time...

    Cool, welcome to the forum! So... Did you bag a legendary NAWALT? I mean, your situation seems pretty sweet if so, makes me curious why you've sought out MGTOW.
    Who's Chairborne? Office worker & Army Reservist, into electronic music, drummer in a jam band, table-top RPGs, bicycling, X-country skiing, biathlon & marksmanship, TV-free for 15 years.

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    Re: It was about time...

    Welcome!

    Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)



    Stuff I do: Box, Surf, Tennis (3.5/4.0), Downhill skiing. I lift 4x a week and have for 10 years.
    Stuff I like: Comedy shows, NBA, Reading Non-Fiction (sociology, philosophy, biographies).
    Random facts: I admire Steve Jobs. Favorite travel spots (Russia, Central America).
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    Re: It was about time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chairborne View Post
    Cool, welcome to the forum! So... Did you bag a legendary NAWALT? I mean, your situation seems pretty sweet if so, makes me curious why you've sought out MGTOW.
    I would love to tell you that I did. But there are no unicorns...

    That being said, unlike most drama queens, she seems willing to live within a framework that's acceptable to me. I emphasize seems, as I am lacking in telepathy skills.

    Even so, I still get the occasional dramatic outburst, or the odd "we should buy another house" (with my proceeds from my business, of course).

    What brought me in?

    Initially, intellectual curiosity.

    Then, based on what I had read, observation and experimentation.

    Finally, shocking levels of correlation between theory and observed experimental results.


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