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    Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Good day all…
    I read some of the threads in some of the forums here. I found things that resonated with me… I don’t have a long list of hard luck stories. Although I have had my share of being eff’d over by all kinds of women and society in general. I have had a pretty good life, I’m a former Marine, avionics in a search and rescue unit, Helicopters and corporate jets type stuff. Nothing too tactical. Great start to a career as an Electronics design engineer. Was married for twenty some years, been on my own for about ten. I’m living by most people’s standards, a good life. A few years ago ran into a Marine buddy, former F-18 pilot that inspired me to become a pilot finally. One of the best decisions that validates and challenges me every time I fly. Always been a dream of mine that always got put off due to family and kids.
    Which brings me to a place in life that we all have come to realize. Our true worth and the intolerance for accepting anything less than our own standards demand. Our society and the deception it speaks about of what a “Real Man” is or should be…. It is not defined by said society, or feminism or sub cultures, but by each one of us individually. What I have found here in the Gyow world, is that as a whole and by each one contributing the same core truths and principles, and walking their own lives accordingly, is how society will get the new definition on men and how we will participate in Society!
    I for one choose to help create that new definition. I don’t have the same experiences or view points as some, on who women are or what they should be, But I do share the common belief that feminism is a cancer and that the health of our culture and society is worse for it. I have read forums and watched videos from both men and women that see the same effect on society and the detriment feminism and the expectations women have as being a root cause. This site/ forum for most is a good vehicle to voice our thoughts and feelings, and to get affirmation for who we are. But I hope that for every individual here it goes further than that and is their lifestyle and daily walk. I plan to continue to read and watch here, and share when I feel I have something to contribute to one or a group. Gyow sites like these has been an awakening for me. And I hope to encourage anyone else to continue to grow and learn what it is to be a Man in this world. To not back down from your core truths, values and principles. What one man can do, Another can do! Iron sharpen Iron…In Time the infection that ails our culture will be cured.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    What, your not from MGTOW? Get out a here.

    We don't rate anyone by how much they've suffered. Good thing, I'm a feather merchant compared to most of the membership. We're here to help, not brag.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Hi Frog, actually I was on the other site and see many familiar men here..
    I hope my intro was anything but bragging or arrogant..I come from a most humble place. Compared to the scars that a lot of men here, I have suffered minimally. Like Uly said we all come here to learn and help others. If there is anything I can offer or encourage other men in their walk and trials, I'm happy to..
    BTW, Thanks Uly for the positive reply. I have read many of your thread contributions, much appreciated brother.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Welcome, good to see you made it here.

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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    I don't see that you did any bragging, sorry if it sounded that way. All I was trying to say is no one here will think their more MGTOW than you cause you got off easier.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Thank you Frog... Good point!
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Aurelius View Post
    Good day all…
    I read some of the threads in some of the forums here. I found things that resonated with me… I don’t have a long list of hard luck stories. Although I have had my share of being eff’d over by all kinds of women and society in general. I have had a pretty good life, I’m a former Marine, avionics in a search and rescue unit, Helicopters and corporate jets type stuff. Nothing too tactical. Great start to a career as an Electronics design engineer. Was married for twenty some years, been on my own for about ten. I’m living by most people’s standards, a good life. A few years ago ran into a Marine buddy, former F-18 pilot that inspired me to become a pilot finally. One of the best decisions that validates and challenges me every time I fly. Always been a dream of mine that always got put off due to family and kids.
    Which brings me to a place in life that we all have come to realize. Our true worth and the intolerance for accepting anything less than our own standards demand. Our society and the deception it speaks about of what a “Real Man” is or should be…. It is not defined by said society, or feminism or sub cultures, but by each one of us individually. What I have found here in the Gyow world, is that as a whole and by each one contributing the same core truths and principles, and walking their own lives accordingly, is how society will get the new definition on men and how we will participate in Society!
    I for one choose to help create that new definition. I don’t have the same experiences or view points as some, on who women are or what they should be, But I do share the common belief that feminism is a cancer and that the health of our culture and society is worse for it. I have read forums and watched videos from both men and women that see the same effect on society and the detriment feminism and the expectations women have as being a root cause. This site/ forum for most is a good vehicle to voice our thoughts and feelings, and to get affirmation for who we are. But I hope that for every individual here it goes further than that and is their lifestyle and daily walk. I plan to continue to read and watch here, and share when I feel I have something to contribute to one or a group. Gyow sites like these has been an awakening for me. And I hope to encourage anyone else to continue to grow and learn what it is to be a Man in this world. To not back down from your core truths, values and principles. What one man can do, Another can do! Iron sharpen Iron…In Time the infection that ails our culture will be cured.
    ……………...For this Man, It starts with me!
    Hi Maximus Aurelius,

    It looks like no Moderator has dropped by since the time that you registered so I get to be the heavy. You have told us a little bit about your life and you have given us general observations and philosophies but unfortunately it's not the rounded Intro we seek. We are looking for personal experiences. It helps our members learn about you and it also distinguishes you from site infiltrators who restrict their testimonies to generalities and philosophies. Please read the sticky How To Intro in this New Member Intros sub-forum where it explains that we want each new member to discuss in detail these three topics:

    1. Relationship history (experience with women, red pills, what about it made you made you aware; note- you don't HAVE to have had relationships but you can speak of your interactions with women) -- it turns out trolls don't have good, realistic stories of this ilk.

    2. Awareness
    : your blue pill perspectives, how you transitioned to red pill, with enough detail about what brought you to MGTOW.

    3. Who you are
    : tell us a little bit of who you are. What you like, what you do, etc.


    As far as #1 Relationship History, you've told us that you don't have a long list of hard luck stories with women. How about telling us about one or two good ones, in some detail?

    As far as #2, you have told us beliefs and philosophy but we are looking for you to relate personal experiences here. Please tell us how you transitioned to red pill, with enough detail about what brought you to MGTOW.

    As far as #3, what do you do today? Hobbies?

    There has been a renewed emphasis on getting Intros brought into compliance. Thank you for your prompt attention to this.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Hey Max! I remember you from the other site, too. These guys get itchy about intros around here. It's not like the other site. There's a lot of good people here and some old friends of yours here, too. Pull up a chair and grab a beer. Remember, most of these peole haven't met you yet.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Here are some further specifics as requested…As mentioned before, I was married for over twenty years. It was an ok marriage. What brought it to an end was an ultimatum she threw down, or else she was moving out. It was a little unlike her, and I suspected someone was in her ear. None the less she threw it, and the beginning of the end was set in motion. Because of a substantial amount of debt from a business I ventured into, she decided she didn’t want any part of that and opted to go our own ways with no financial support from me in return for me carrying the whole amount of debt. Our kids were grown, so there was no CS. After a few years and finally resolving said debt, I came out fairly unscathed and a bit better off financially. This is probably the start of my Mgtow journey as some things become much more apparent to the single man than one already under agreed terms of relationship responsibilities…

    While single I have had a couple long term relationships, and dated my fair share of women. It is in these dating experiences that so much truth of the Red Pills out there have become my reality. It is interesting that as I or men in general accumulate experiences, the truths become much clearer much sooner. To the point where I see it coming now. Everyone knows or has similar experiences as I have had, as so much is written and spoken about them in these forums. But as requested I will speak to my own and my take away.
    My transition, Dating these days and in the recent past, has become so much of a comedy of errors. In the sense that all the stereotypes are now so known, that women just accept and admit to them. The whole men should pay for first and every date. The use of “Withholding Sex” as a weapon, that they admit to and feel entitled to. As you can guess, these relationships/experiences don’t last verra long…. (I realize I’m preaching to the choir. But hey YOU asked.) I have had a couple relationships, nothing to write home about. When signs of disrespect for me as a man start creeping in, and she starts with the shit tests, that’s when I go my own way. After a while It’s easier to start bringing out Blue pill topics to some of the women I’d meet, at least the ones I was less interested in. Most scoff or laugh, some even say they understand how hard it is to be a man in today’s world. Almost All of them admit to having ‘Guy‘ friends. No Really…. They’re just friends! They insist nothing would ever go on between them and these so called guy friends, some are even married! It’s so hard not to bust out laughing, actually I have, And say to them “That’s my whole point!” … Then when the little light of understanding goes off and just how they are AWALT, they shrug and feign indifference and say the guys are good with it. That’s when I share with them how little to no self respect those guys have or she has for them. That’s when they nod their head in admission and ask how I got so smart or woke.
    Let’s not leave out, how modern Feminism has seeped into every crevice of society, and what you’re left with is Red Pills everywhere! How can men not transition into a mgtow lifestyle in some regard. Now, add on the utter disgrace of how men are portrayed in society, i.e. Commercials. Sitcoms , movies etc.. Every white man out there is always and continually shown in the most demeaning or mocking state. Where every ‘couple’ is mixed race and usually the shown as attractive young adults. I could go on and on about the media and how it falsely depicts every woman as so strong and independent, entitled and empowered. If there ever was a lie that ruined any hope of healthy goings on between men and women Feminism is thy name!

    Any hooos, my humble experience is not unlike most of yours, just names have been changed to corrupt innocent men. Transition? Who in their right mind can avoid a transition of some kind, hopefully one they can call their own!
    Where am I now you ask. I have become skeptical, perhaps cynical of the false concept of a man woman relationship. So I go my own way. I date some, but not blindly as I have in the past. More importantly, I do my own thing. I have a great job, Design engineer. I am a pilot, and I’m pretty fit. So I stay active with a couple other buddies that have a similar mind set. We do motorcycle adventure trips. Last summer a few of us rode dirt bikes from El Paso, Tx. To Wyoming, over the Rockies. That was a blast. The outdoors is always fun and I have a fair gun collection. I am just living life as best I can live it. I hope this sheds a bit more light on my journey as requested. If there are questions or anything else, feel free to comment..
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Aurelius View Post
    Here are some further specifics as requested…As mentioned before, I was married for over twenty years. It was an ok marriage. What brought it to an end was an ultimatum she threw down, or else she was moving out. It was a little unlike her, and I suspected someone was in her ear. None the less she threw it, and the beginning of the end was set in motion. Because of a substantial amount of debt from a business I ventured into, she decided she didn’t want any part of that and opted to go our own ways with no financial support from me in return for me carrying the whole amount of debt. Our kids were grown, so there was no CS. After a few years and finally resolving said debt, I came out fairly unscathed and a bit better off financially. This is probably the start of my Mgtow journey as some things become much more apparent to the single man than one already under agreed terms of relationship responsibilities…

    While single I have had a couple long term relationships, and dated my fair share of women. It is in these dating experiences that so much truth of the Red Pills out there have become my reality. It is interesting that as I or men in general accumulate experiences, the truths become much clearer much sooner. To the point where I see it coming now. Everyone knows or has similar experiences as I have had, as so much is written and spoken about them in these forums. But as requested I will speak to my own and my take away.
    My transition, Dating these days and in the recent past, has become so much of a comedy of errors. In the sense that all the stereotypes are now so known, that women just accept and admit to them. The whole men should pay for first and every date. The use of “Withholding Sex” as a weapon, that they admit to and feel entitled to. As you can guess, these relationships/experiences don’t last verra long…. (I realize I’m preaching to the choir. But hey YOU asked.)
    I have had a couple relationships, nothing to write home about. When signs of disrespect for me as a man start creeping in, and she starts with the shit tests, that’s when I go my own way. After a while It’s easier to start bringing out Blue pill topics to some of the women I’d meet, at least the ones I was less interested in. Most scoff or laugh, some even say they understand how hard it is to be a man in today’s world. Almost All of them admit to having ‘Guy‘ friends. No Really…. They’re just friends! They insist nothing would ever go on between them and these so called guy friends, some are even married! It’s so hard not to bust out laughing, actually I have, And say to them “That’s my whole point!” … Then when the little light of understanding goes off and just how they are AWALT, they shrug and feign indifference and say the guys are good with it. That’s when I share with them how little to no self respect those guys have or she has for them. That’s when they nod their head in admission and ask how I got so smart or woke.
    Let’s not leave out, how modern Feminism has seeped into every crevice of society, and what you’re left with is Red Pills everywhere! How can men not transition into a mgtow lifestyle in some regard. Now, add on the utter disgrace of how men are portrayed in society, i.e. Commercials. Sitcoms , movies etc.. Every white man out there is always and continually shown in the most demeaning or mocking state. Where every ‘couple’ is mixed race and usually the shown as attractive young adults. I could go on and on about the media and how it falsely depicts every woman as so strong and independent, entitled and empowered. If there ever was a lie that ruined any hope of healthy goings on between men and women Feminism is thy name!


    Any hooos, my humble experience is not unlike most of yours, just names have been changed to corrupt innocent men. Transition? Who in their right mind can avoid a transition of some kind, hopefully one they can call their own!
    Where am I now you ask. I have become skeptical, perhaps cynical of the false concept of a man woman relationship. So I go my own way. I date some, but not blindly as I have in the past. More importantly, I do my own thing. I have a great job, Design engineer. I am a pilot, and I’m pretty fit. So I stay active with a couple other buddies that have a similar mind set. We do motorcycle adventure trips. Last summer a few of us rode dirt bikes from El Paso, Tx. To Wyoming, over the Rockies. That was a blast. The outdoors is always fun and I have a fair gun collection. I am just living life as best I can live it. I hope this sheds a bit more light on my journey as requested. If there are questions or anything else, feel free to comment..
    Hi Maximus!

    I know you don't have ESP to read my mind in the brief PM's I sent and boy do I know how easy it is to lapse into generalities and philosophy when asked to write stuff! To graphically illustrate, and begging your pardon, the parts of your reply above that I made red is written in a general sense and includes your thoughts about the larger society and is not the personal experience that we were hoping in Post #7 that you'd tell us in your Intro.

    The parts I made blue are also general and we were hoping you would tell us some details, please. What shit tests actually happened to you? What happened? Many of our members (and the lurkers here as well) could benefit from details from your personal experience to recognize when these same things might come their way, rather than just reading the same old broad brush.

    Do not worry if you think your personal experiences repeat what others may already know or recognize. This is about you.

    I think you have the rest covered.

    Thank you.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    The title of this thread seems rather odd. "Strength in numbers" seems like the opposite of Going Your Own Way, doesn't it? More collective than individual. Sure, we share information and stories and give each other advice, but we can and do control our own lives. Maybe I am reading too much into the thread title. Any other opinions out there?

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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Ahhh, Specifics, Let me share the experience that I eluded to above and broke the camels back as they say...
    I met a woman that had a fairly long list of things she was looking for in a partner. After talking with her and doing the usual back and forth interview, we found that we actually agreed on many social issues and same political background. She was a solid seven with a great body, and was a pretty good fuck...SO off we went into relationship land. You know, where you both agree to be exclusive and see each other 3 to 4 days a week, with the occasional to regular sleep overs.. All fun at first.... In the beginning she was entranced in every thing I had to say, and often was impressed with my values, philosophies and respect I showed others. But she had her strategies and it was interesting to see her methods play out. She shared that she didnt like the possessive jealous types , like her last bf. I went on to explain how most women had a group of 'orbiters' and that it wasn't respectful to them, or us a a couple for her to have guys that she would 'date' or swap favors, (platonic), and errands. And just because she doesn't sleep with them make it any better. When I asked her if she was ok with me having female friends, as you guessed, she was not going for any of that.. She had this surprised look on her face and often asked me ' how do I know so much?".....
    So, after a few months of seeing her, she had a vacation planned with her daughter to the Caribbean. They had planned it a year before and was a mother daughter thing. Sounds great I said. The few days before she left, she was busy organizing and packing, and I asked if she wanted to do dinner before she left. She declined and said she had "Too much to do" . No worries, I kool that. I just wanted to make sure I cover my bases and let her know Im available if she wanted to get together. So Saturday morning early off she goes, from her place, and heads to the airport. She gets there and while waiting, she texts me to say hi and good morning, usual stuff...I'm having coffee when she texts me the shit test of all shit tests for her. " Hi babe, So, are you going to sleep with anyone while I'm gone, or can I trust you?" At first I thought she was kidding. I mean , she hasn't even taken off yet. I am a bit offended, but let it go at first. I kiddingly text her that with my luck , I hardly have time to find anyone and that I was sure I could wait til she gets back. I also share with her that It is her that is going off to some tropical local and being an attractive woman with a pretty daughter, I may have more reason to ask her the same.. She replies, she doesn't like my answer and that I'm being evasive, just like her past bf, who cheated on her. I go onto explain that I have not in word or action, given her any reason to suspect or think I have any intentions of palying around behind her back. I share that the question first offended me , and that she didn't need to worry at all. ......
    Still not good enough! She accuses me a playing word games and insists I'm going to play around while shes gone. I tell her emphatically, No, I won't sleep with anyone whiles she gone, and to please enjoy herself and her daughter. .....................................This goes on for SEVEN hours! while she flying to across country to meet her ship. I finally say I'm done with it and I will see her when she returns.
    The following weekend she was to get in late Sunday night. Weather was cold and gloomy, so i decide to go play golf in a desert town thats known for great golf and warm weather. ALONE. We text a few times thru the week and let her know. She has a fit, That I'm going out of town to play golf , and insists it sounds to suspicious..
    She continues with the 'You're going to cheat on me " theme, and posts on facebook that I abandoned her.
    Upon her return when we finally meet up. She brings a bag with her. We discuss the past weeks shennanigens
    and determine she should take her things with her and leave.
    So, I found that it just goes to show, that no matter how much you may have in common, or how great the sex is
    there's no accounting for CRAZY.. .
    Im sure much of this will sound too familiar and I realize that it was just my turn.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Aurelius View Post
    Im sure much of this will sound too familiar and I realize that it was just my turn.
    Maximus, thank you! Members and lurkers, appreciate the detail that Maximus gave us. I learn something new each time. So, lurkers, if any parts of your current situation appeared in his, let that ring an alarm bell for you to take a deeper look at what you may have stepped in.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Now that is how you respond to a request for specifics. A big, useful post, ooozing with Red Pill knowledge, the sort of intro addition that is resoundingly genuine, in my opinion. I've not had a live in GF and your post still gave me the "gut feeling" of alarm and worry. Good post! Maybe you could edit it to add some paragraph breaks, the Great Wall of Text may be off putting to some readers.

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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Quote Originally Posted by ABigSiameseCat View Post
    Now that is how you respond to a request for specifics.
    You're fuck an A right, it is! I decided to weigh in again here because I was still thinking about how many people will be benefited by reading it, perhaps more than the author or myself will know. An unselfish sharing and a great example for newbies to see what we mean by personal experience details.
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    Re: Strength in numbers...My Intro..

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Aurelius View Post
    So, after a few months of seeing her, she had a vacation planned with her daughter to the Caribbean. They had planned it a year before and was a mother daughter thing.
    A mother-daughter thing, all right. Swimming in a sea of exotic dicks. I don’t even have to read more (I did) to know it happenned. 99.9+ percent probability. She was accusing you of cheating because cheating is exactly what she herself had been planning. I wish I was this sure about the winning lottery numbers.


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