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    MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    I'm almost floored, shocked, and relieved that this exists. I actually came upon this forum by typing, 'Can life without women make men more successful?' , Or something pretty close. I came here to see a world I had always wished existed. I've painfully arrived, as have all of you, (I'm no poster boy, I realize I'm another MGTOW that has tasted the evil, selfish, corrupt, & unrelenting FemCult).

    I'm here at 57! Yep, it's true. I'll never be ashamed to have found what 'here' is after all these years, just GLAD I did!!!
    I was married to a woman at 25, that had 4 year old daughter, that I raised as my own. One year later , in 1985, we had our own daughter together. 21 years later, after our humble home was 2nd mortgaged, & credit cards shy high debt out of control, most by her doing, she starts screwing around with a younger guy, & moves in with him. Of course, just after she and her'girlfriend' took a resort vacation to PuntaCana, Dominican Rep. I was single 4 years, & was ready for some more torture, seems I didn't have enough.

    I started dating an old aquaintance of my sister's, someone I had known since I was 14. She would certainly be loyal, she was 'money', & the length of time my family knew her was certainly an insurance policy, she was gold! I married again. Seven years later, & she asked me to leave the house. I had been having severe back and hip problems, had an adverse reaction to some steroid shots I was getting, & found myself on my back, immobile for 6 weeks from March 2016 & into May. She couldn't handle it. It was distressing to me to the point that I had to be put on mood stabilizers. My older sister took me in.

    In late May , I started to become mobile , started up my restoration business right where I left off, & started building my life again. None of this is drama, all true...I now rent a small condo, have it furnished, & have peace. As of this writing I was informed by my wife, (we're not divorced or separated yet, legally separated that is), that she recently sold the home to her Jezebel daughter, and she'll be living in the mother-in-law apt. in the back of the house. I never had my name on the home, she promised me every year that she would "get around to getting the paperwork done" sooner or later. Yeah , sure , after I poured some $30,000 of my money into it. She stopped working after the first year of our marriage, complaining of unsubstantiated Fibromyalgia, & systemic arthritis. No doctor to this day has ever diagnosed her for either.

    I'm limping around, need real surgery, and getting by. I feel so ashamed that I was "tricked" again. This time, I really feel like, "shame on me". Although I feel good that I've come to this enlightenment. I was raised in a strict Christian upbringing by an overbearing and abusive Mother, that I have since forgiven. I don't know if this belongs in here, but I'm going to say it, I was molested by my Aunt when I was 5 years old, then by an older and much stronger boy in my neighborhood when I was very young. I had conflicting feelings for decades about men & women , I could never , ever say everything in this into. I was constantly trying to please women, & looking for their approval my entire life. It truly is over. I don't hate women. I'm just that much wiser. If anyone thinks I'm a fool, no problem, you can have your opinion. I will tell you one thing, I've become adept at reading people, and have become shrewd, especially when dealing with women and negotiating work contracts, more so than EVER.

    Well, I may have bored you enough. Thanks for the opportunity to introduce myself, and for the forum to do so.
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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Fuck me - let's end the year with a Wall of Text, eh?

    Seems like a strongly credible story - care to put some line/para breaks in there and help a brother with the comprehension?
    A gun-toting, weed-smoking, gray-bearded redneck with a Masters - old and dangerous.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Welcome, SteelEye. May you finally find the peace, contentment, and solace you have earned.
    What a fantastic price you have paid! Make it worth every penny.
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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Welcome. How long have you been reading about MGTOW ? Fender or Gibson? Happy New Year.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Been here just a few days. Fender all the way.......& I own a Epi, LP......Still waiting for my Tele gift to myself......It'll come soon.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    I'm sorry, not getting what you are referring to. My apologies if the view of my intro is not readable. I can't see it, since from my view all looks well....

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    I will, & thank you for the kind words. This is a very different feeling, & now a way of life for me. This is not an emotional decision based on embarassment. This is a new reality. I welcome it , at any price.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Welcome to the forum. Let's hope that young men to day will have the resources to not make this series of blunders.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelEye View Post
    I will, & thank you for the kind words. This is a very different feeling, & now a way of life for me. This is not an emotional decision based on embarassment. This is a new reality. I welcome it , at any price.
    Have been watching MGTOW content creators on YouTube? Where did you get turned on to Red Pill stuff ? Got any opinions about the world? Read any good books?
    This intro is to determine that you're not a chick or super retarded, so be yourself and chat us up.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Sandman, Men of Truth, Angry MGTOW.......good stuff. Just a little disappointed that some content is borderline racist. That statement alone will probably get me tossed from this forum . So be it. I know a few men of color that are MGTOW.....& don't actually know it. The red pill stuff, as mentioned in my intro, was out of curiously googling "can life without women make men more successful?"........This forum seems to be rich with rules, and verifying who I am. What's the deal?....evrything.......Everything is absolute truth.....including how I came upon this place. I consider it an oasis in a WORLD of Deserts. & that's statement isn't to blow smoke , or put out there to be liked by anyone, or any forum. I really don't give monkey's testicle if anyone likes me. in fact , if anyone out there thinks one thing or another about me, or thinks how I could be tricked for so long.......I would agree with them. I'm not 20, or 30 something. i was raised in what is referred to as a traditional household. My father took care of my mother. she worked occaisionally, but for the most part, i & my siblings were expected to marry before we reached 30. My mother pushed it. It was her preoccupation. Well, that's about it. i'll check in again.....if I get rejected as a person that can post...then fine. I'll still come here to read and be encouraged with this way of life that's new to me. I guess i may have been aware here & there that several men have sworn off women & marriage, but I did not know that there were organized forums and communities of us. Cool. Trust, im not a chick...super retarted? NO -out

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelEye View Post
    This forum seems to be rich with rules, and verifying who I am. What's the deal?
    Trolls. Women pretending to be guys. Conspiracy theory nuts. Other nuts - paranoid, antisocial. All kinds is what the deal is. There's a sub forum "Banned Members" which might give you an idea of the kinds of people who join up and are banned. Some show their true colours immediately, some manage to fly mostly under the radar for a while.

    I mean - a community has a right to decide who is and who is not admitted. Freedom of association means freedom to decline association.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    SteelEye,

    This is probably TLDR, but I mean it. Every word.

    I doubt you will be banned for your observations. Men are about rules here, not about race. It's our nature.
    To be comprehended and capable men, nature itself must be observed and codified into comprehensible,
    fixed, immutable, and translatable laws, known by men. That, I suspect is our giving nature as men-
    comprehension.

    Conversely,

    Women don't like to be comprehended because it de-mystifies them. Women also dislike
    fixed, immutable law because it makes their feelings less relevant by simplifying existence and evidence.
    Precisely why women are confined to quarters on this site. It is a shit test which most of them cannot read nor
    comprehend, because women are not the nature of manliness, nor do they act naturally any longer-
    they just play a role and hold on to something better than they can be, for a moment.

    It is my humble observation that the introduction/filtering process is difficult because to be a MGTOW at any level
    is difficult. My first intro here was awful. I was challenged to do better. I did what I thought was required, and
    was challenged again. Repeatedly. I got t-banned for lashing out. Dirty water under the bridge. I was a mangina
    once upon a time, waaa waaa waaa, and so forth. This is my latest re-intro. I feel better now.

    In the end, I went my own way and found unthinkably huge possibilities from doing so- for myself and others.
    Giving up the almighty vagina was the best thing I ever did for myself and everyone else for which I could
    do anything at all. Women. They love me and they hate me. They curse the fruit because they are a delicate flower.

    Seemingly, the main point of this intro process is to replace women as the "de facto judges of male improvement",
    an arena wherein women are seldom challenged and often revered. Manginas are not born, they are made
    by women to function as slaves of women. That is the opposite of our nature. We are not drones nor slaves.

    We are the creators of life, not the harbor and bearing of it. All law would have us see it the other way round.
    NOT SO! MGTOW rule their own dominion. A difficult, but not impossible proof. To solve for it is to break free.
    Every free man is worth his weight in bitcoin who can prove it, thus the shit testing.

    The problem exists where many men are very comfortable in their slavery. Socialism/Feminism is gaining in
    popularity. Freedom in a society which is progressively geared towards mutual enslavement is an
    horrendous undertaking. The end result can only be collapse when slaves win. When masters win, the
    end result can only be disaster, endless consumption and infinite corruption.

    You may have already seen it for yourself.
    All current paradigms are failing, miserably.

    When everyone who is not free will be against you,
    and everyone who is free will challenge you,
    you will be hated for being your own best friend first-
    and later on, admired, loved, and memorialized once you die fighting for your cause.

    What a pity.

    What about living long enough to see your cause, karma, and purpose as a man
    accomplished? Oh, no, no, no. Women send you to rehab for that shit via divorce court.

    This creates a nexus of man-self which cannot be denied, some call MGTOW.
    The red pill.

    Go your own way long enough and you can work miracles in the lives of
    other men. It is possible, and you have more than enough power to see it through.
    It does not matter how much money they take from you and women know this is true.

    You will never work a miracle to a woman unless you impregnate her first.
    YeeGawdz, what a revolting situation.

    The stench of dead seafood could follow you for generations if you choose to breed,
    or choose not to.

    I for one believe in you at your best, doing it all by your self.
    You can. You will be top shelf.

    Breed your own ideas and lead on your own path of hard earned merit.

    A mans' own work and his name is the best path for him and him alone.
    May he go his own way and make the best use of every resource he can
    use to help his fellow man, ferret out truth that matters and do his best
    every moment he can stand to be awake and alive among the asleep and
    those awaiting death.

    Every man who does this is free.
    Every man who fails is House-Bound.
    An Husband.

    Go gentle with them, they are your fathers, and brothers. Your Uncles and Cousins.
    Give them time.

    They will come around.
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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Trolls. Women pretending to be guys. Conspiracy theory nuts. Other nuts - paranoid, antisocial. All kinds is what the deal is. There's a sub forum "Banned Members" which might give you an idea of the kinds of people who join up and are banned. Some show their true colours immediately, some manage to fly mostly under the radar for a while.

    I mean - a community has a right to decide who is and who is not admitted. Freedom of association means freedom to decline association.
    Trolls. They speak but cannot think.
    The problem is simple.
    Freedom of speech denied to one is denied to all.
    Even an ugly, old, fat, retarded troll like me can see this is true.

    The people vs larry flint.

    The freedom of speech is the freedom to think aloud.
    When a man cannot defend his own ideas, he cannot take a long breath,
    and laws are girded too tightly.

    It is the freedom of the press, and exactly what power does not want.
    Dissent, so the press was bought out and controlled.

    IMHO, Provision is the fundamental duty which over arches the notion of rights.
    He who provides, decides.

    Our duty as men, conscripted, drafted, compelled and compromised from birth-
    or so we were instructed no matter how this is not truly so.

    Men Provide. When we choose to do otherwise we are condemned.

    Where else can we go for refuge?
    Other men who have found the same to be true and would seek any
    other avenue for our best outcome.

    It is our survival mechanism.

    Take that away and survey the bedlam that ensues.
    Throw yourself at the ground and miss. -Douglas Adams.
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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Welcome. I look forward to hearing from you more often.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    This forum seems to be rich with rules, and verifying who I am. What's the deal?
    It's also a useful test. Any guy who is too mighty to follow a few bits of etiquette will struggle to keep to our principles.

    This isn't the arsehole of the internet, you'll find some great writing here with top-notch reasoning.

    And welcome to the forum, look forward to seeing your contributions.
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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    I respect all of you here. If I have to 'prove' I belong, well, I don't know how I'm going to do. The powers that be should just bounce me out right now. I understand and operate really well being excluded from anything and everything. I thrive on it. I'm too fucking old and ugly to ever get involved with another female. I'm 6'4" & 325 lbs.....bald, opinionated, miserable, & generally I don't like people. I have no visions or asperasions of undermining anyone here, with some sort of poison doctrine. So, have at it............I may have been wrong about joining. I felt encouraged when I saw this site/forum. Some of the bullshit kowtowing that seems to be a requirement, has no place in my existence.

    Having said that, I truly am out. Best to all of you.

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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelEye View Post
    I respect all of you here. If I have to 'prove' I belong, well, I don't know how I'm going to do. The powers that be should just bounce me out right now. I understand and operate really well being excluded from anything and everything. I thrive on it. I'm too fucking old and ugly to ever get involved with another female. I'm 6'4" & 325 lbs.....bald, opinionated, miserable, & generally I don't like people. I have no visions or asperasions of undermining anyone here, with some sort of poison doctrine. So, have at it............I may have been wrong about joining. I felt encouraged when I saw this site/forum. Some of the bullshit kowtowing that seems to be a requirement, has no place in my existence.

    Having said that, I truly am out. Best to all of you.
    Wait a minute! Come back, SteelEye! Don't leave!

    If there is any subtext going on in this thread that you have detected as unwelcoming, well I don't see it and I'm pretty observant at times. But, I know these guys from being here awhile.

    I've read this thread and no one has rejected you. Even a Moderator has welcomed you and that, my friend, is the Seal of Approval around here. By this I would say you have written a valid Intro, even if residual curiosity makes for additional questions from us.

    What I do see is an assortment of members with different personalities making comments here and at different times. That, at the outermost point of my imagination, might have an accumulative effect of looking like you are being watched by some tribunal from some Star Trek episode or whatever?

    Please stay and contribute. We are not a clique here. We are an assortment of people. If you are worried that you are too candid for this forum, then that will be your choice, or that will remain to be seen.

    Or, give us a try.

    Thank you.
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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    Having said that, I truly am out. Best to all of you.
    Maybe a community of any kind just isn't the right thing for you - if so, fair enough, I can respect that.

    Best of luck to you.
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    Re: MGTOW prospective member, thru PAIN Intro::

    SteelEye,

    Be well, no matter where you go. I will miss your opinion here.
    Hope you reconsider.

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