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    My Introduction

    Hi guys. I am new to MGTOW in general but I have always known that modern society was sugar coating the truth. I feel we have become so disillusioned by lies that we often confuse them with factual information. I remember my mother talking to me about a philosopher whom she had read about. She told me that he was spouting these outrageous lies about life. The philosopher said something along the lines of, "If you are destitute and statistically in a hopeless situation from which you cannot recover, it is preferable to commit suicide. In this life, you are already prone to more despair than joy." Now whether or not you disagree with this assessment does not make it any less true. So that's what I explained to my mother and she seemed to understand. My life experience has taught me that more often than not, the truth is inconvenient. We want the truth to be beautiful and fair. Isn't that why we have superstitions like karma or the dogmatic spiritual concept called religion. We want to believe the whole notion of "good people go to heaven" and "bad people go to hell" because it sounds fair.

    Today, ideologies are fighting to convince us that the paradigm they had modeled is the correct one. But the most dangerous of all paradigms are one that are dogmatic and/or supported by the government. MGTOW to me, is about using pessimistic induction to make important decisions, never utilizing the value system of others, and acknowledging the truth for what it really is, no matter how inconvenient. Common sense tells us that the two genders are different. Depending on what you value more, will determine which gender you believe to be more superior. Yet some people consistently feel the need to even the score and make excuses for uneven distributions in terms of accomplishments, power, various workplaces, and now entertainment. Today, political correctness and ideology is suppressing truth, free thought, and expression.

    More about who I am
    I am a college student studying biology to get into a medical school (hopefully local). Previously I went to nursing school because my desire had always been to improve the quality of someone's life and to also not feel like I had squandered the life I had. I remember when there was a day I watched tv for 2 hours and slept the entire day. When I woke up, I felt this vague feeling of discomfort and annoyance because it felt like I wasted an entire day. But when I work hard consistently, only getting 4 hours of sleep, and coming home looking like a zombie, I feel bits of satisfaction. It doesn't sound rational when I say I wouldn't enjoy a life which offers me too much comfort, but I think this is how I want to live my life. I am also thinking of avoiding all foreseeable relationships because more often than not I have seen them to be the downfall countless men (I'm not even talking about marriage either). Very rarely do I see a supportive non passive aggressive woman seeking to support and build her man up rather than continually eroding him until there is nothing left.

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    Welcome.

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    Very nice introduction; many similar feelings have been aroused in me, though my conclusions were invariably vastly different.

    Quote Originally Posted by COSTPI View Post
    Hi guys. I am new to MGTOW in general but I have always known that modern society was sugar coating the truth. ... My life experience has taught me that more often than not, the truth is inconvenient. We want the truth to be beautiful and fair. Isn't that why we have superstitions like karma or the dogmatic spiritual concept called religion. We want to believe the whole notion of "good people go to heaven" and "bad people go to hell" because it sounds fair.
    That society is filled with facile optimism, banal uplifting, and false prophets, we know; that the truth is rarely a welcome guest, we know too; but in the end I hardly think the truth is, on an individual level, very inconvenient or melancholy. The most damaging prejudice propagated constantly by mass media (starting young, with children's shows) is the one that states friendship and love are the most important things in one's life. Friendship may very well enhance one's experience greatly, but the axiom behind it all is forgotten: live for yourself, attain self-reliance, be comfortable with yourself and yourself alone. Friends fade, girlfriends cheat or divorce; but you'll always have yourself. To search desperately for external validation while you are in inner turmoil is never the way out. 'The truth', then, is that one has a life of approximately 90 years and that one can fill it in however one would like, given the constraints of reality and the law. Place the emphasis on the individual and everything falls into place; "It is an endless and frivolous Pursuit to act by any other Rule than the Care of satisfying our own Minds in what we do."

    Quote Originally Posted by COSTPI View Post
    MGTOW to me, is about using pessimistic induction to make important decisions, never utilizing the value system of others, and acknowledging the truth for what it really is, no matter how inconvenient.
    Pessimism is not a necessity; the naked truth will do. Those who are pessimistic temperamentally will draw bad conclusions far too often, by assuming the negative rather than arriving at it through a calculated deliberation.

    Quote Originally Posted by COSTPI View Post
    I remember when there was a day I watched tv for 2 hours and slept the entire day. When I woke up, I felt this vague feeling of discomfort and annoyance because it felt like I wasted an entire day. But when I work hard consistently, only getting 4 hours of sleep, and coming home looking like a zombie, I feel bits of satisfaction. It doesn't sound rational when I say I wouldn't enjoy a life which offers me too much comfort, but I think this is how I want to live my life.
    Ah, de brevitate vitae! It is hardly irrational. In fact, it is a well-known phenomenon. How right was Goethe when he uttered: "be busy, be courteous, and let the present scene delight thee." Many men find themselves in their work; to others nothing is more pleasant than working. There's also Marlow's oft-quoted statement on the matter from Heart of Darkness:

    I don't like work no man does but I like what is in work the chance to find yourself. Your own reality for yourself, not for others what no other man can ever know.

    Women, however, cannot lose themselves in work easily. They seek shallow material and emotional comforts and are used to having things done for them. It is no surprise so many of them are miserable! You seem happy and satisfied doing hard work, and that's truthfully all that matters.

    I look forward to seeing your posts!
    And when her lips so sweetly move
    The soul such height attain,
    You're free, yet would no longer rove
    But lay you down in chains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COSTPI View Post
    Very rarely do I see a supportive non passive aggressive woman seeking to support and build her man up rather than continually eroding him until there is nothing left.
    THIS ^^^, well said !

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    Thank you very much for the welcomes.

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    Welcome Costpi.

    Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)



    Stuff I do: Box, Surf, Tennis (3.5/4.0), Downhill skiing. I lift 4x a week and have for 10 years.
    Stuff I like: Comedy shows, NBA, Reading Non-Fiction (sociology, philosophy, biographies).
    Random facts: I admire Steve Jobs. Favorite travel spots (Russia, Central America).
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    I have already enjoyed a couple of your thoughtful and provocative posts. I am beginning to think that the average MGTOW man is far from average where intelligence is concerned. Anyways welcome COSTPI.

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    Welcome COSTPI

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    Quote Originally Posted by FapMaster View Post
    I have already enjoyed a couple of your thoughtful and provocative posts. I am beginning to think that the average MGTOW man is far from average where intelligence is concerned. Anyways welcome COSTPI.
    Agreed FapMaster! There's some thoughtful analysis on this forum. It's surprising to me, but it shouldn't be… To control biological desires takes discipline, and disciplined thought leads to well reasoned arguments. And I think that intelligent men are more likely to take the Red Pill, or to come to the conclusions on their own. The inquisitive mind is less likely to reject a hypothesis because it would be uncomfortable if true… And COSTPI, you appear to fit into this category of the clever and articulate free-man.

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    Yes I concur. Interestingly (IMO), not to be 'off-topic' in the least bit, but I am studying economics presently. I find that "fiat-money' is just as fake and insincere (& illegitimate!) as a fake female. I also am finding that all things are inter-connected in life and survival.


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