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    I had no idea this was a thing

    I had no idea this MGTOW was a thing...I'm happy to have happened upon it.

    I came across the acronym on the internet, and out of curiosity, looked it up. I discovered the more I learned, the more this described my life. I didn't know there were others like me; at least not so many.

    I've never had trouble getting women, but I've never married, and was always reluctant to have any children in this environment. The changes society undergone over the course of my life have always made me wary to the point of not being able to commit into these institutions.

    However, I am still a romantic. This is where I may differ from many of you...I'm not sure yet. I do love women...in particular, ladies...the kind chivalry was meant to protect. Not the loud-mouth, tattooed, crass chick that isn't embarrassed by trying to act like a man. I just find that there are damned few ladies left today. I believe that women need strong men playing a dominant role in their lives to keep their emotions in check. I believe women are happier and more peaceful when they play the submissive role. And, we men, being ruled by reason, benefit from their emotional side in relationships.

    I find that government has engineered society in a way that it destroys that natural relationship, and now none of us are happy with the result...including women.

    In any case, I'll be happy to hear what all of you have to say, and I'm glad to have found this place.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    However, I am still a romantic. This is where I may differ from many of you
    For me it's not about avoiding women completely (some people do) but structuring your life to minimise the damage they can do.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchon View Post
    And, we men, being ruled by reason, benefit from their emotional side in relationships.
    Your whole post is funny like Joe Pesci's “Funny Like a Clown” Speech in Goodfellas.

    My gut instinct says, that a female student here want to exchange thoughts for her bachelor's thesis...

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    I agree with xcom, the intro seems to be written by a female. To the OP, you will have to do better on your intro before posting any further. Please look at other intros and try to make more than a token effort on your into. Many of us here have seen enough deceit, misandry, and professional level trolling to last us a lifetime. Hint, your intro is extremely vague, you will need to add specifics to your intro before you can convince us you are not a woman, like most women, using deceit to achieve her goals.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    For me it's not about avoiding women completely (some people do) but structuring your life to minimise the damage they can do.
    This is what I have done. It's funny, when dating, marriage always eventually comes up. When I explain to them that marriage is the equivalent of saying, "I love you so much, I want to get lawyers involved", and that I don't care to ever do it, they break it off, even though they say they weren't looking for that.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by ABigSiameseCat View Post
    I agree with xcom, the intro seems to be written by a female. To the OP, you will have to do better on your intro before posting any further. Please look at other intros and try to make more than a token effort on your into. Many of us here have seen enough deceit, misandry, and professional level trolling to last us a lifetime. Hint, your intro is extremely vague, you will need to add specifics to your intro before you can convince us you are not a woman, like most women, using deceit to achieve her goals.
    Is that a common occurrence around here (chicks faking accounts here)?

    If you have specific questions, I can answer them. It's not my place to prove to you I'm not a woman. You sound paranoid.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by xcom View Post
    Your whole post is funny like Joe Pesci's “Funny Like a Clown” Speech in Goodfellas.

    My gut instinct says, that a female student here want to exchange thoughts for her bachelor's thesis...
    Have you guys been fucked over so hard that you don't think women have anything to offer? Are you so distrustful of them that you think every guy that comes on here is one until he somehow proves otherwise? Do you believe that men are the only thing good in the world? We're human. We both have our own strengths and failings that complement each other. We were literally made to go together.

    Government has engineered society to try to remove those differences for a couple of reasons: 1) if women get out and work, they can collect double the taxes, and 2) if the population is uniform, equal, they are easier to control. So, they try to make men like women, and women like men. And here we are today, with a fucked up world.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchon View Post
    However, I am still a romantic. This is where I may differ from many of you... I'm not sure yet. I do love women... in particular, ladies... the kind chivalry was meant to protect. Not the loud-mouth, tattooed, crass chick that isn't embarrassed by trying to act like a man. I just find that there are damned few ladies left today. I believe that women need strong men playing a dominant role in their lives to keep their emotions in check. I believe women are happier and more peaceful when they play the submissive role. And, we men, being ruled by reason, benefit from their emotional side in relationships.

    I find that government has engineered society in a way that it destroys that natural relationship, and now none of us are happy with the result... including women.
    Ah, the belief in the shining unicorn. They do exist, yes, but they are what are now considered to be defective women. The classic masculine and feminine are both being obliterated by those who cannot attain either. The boarish man-woman who refuses any kind of accountability, and ultimately has it forced upon her. That's the "including women" part at the end of your statement, consequences slamming back into their faces, when now men simply don't want to be long term with what they have become. This, in the western world, is going to be a major problem. Men can still go find the feminine abroad - but what the man-woman wants - which boils down to a voluntary slave that defers to her - does not exist. So it tries to create it, not realizing you have to break the masculine to do so. And once that is gone, desire to produce, excel and chase the lasses goes with it.

    Society will suffer for this attempt. The birth rate will not recover while this is in effect. But it is a selfcorrecting problem because of that. Even now, the generation that is coming into adulthood is seeing the mess unbridled sexuality has left and they seem rightfully disgusted by it. Time will tell if the current early 20's folk will return a semblance of sanity to society, but the backlog of emotionally broken women and utterly indifferent men will cause problems down the line.
    Shame is a womans primary weapon. Watch for it, and call it out wherever you see it. Few women know how to handle a man immune to shame.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchon View Post
    Is that a common occurrence around here (chicks faking accounts here)?

    If you have specific questions, I can answer them. It's not my place to prove to you I'm not a woman.
    Sorry, but you are so incorrect, Anarchon. Since you had no idea this was a thing, then you may have leaped to join us before you sufficiently looked. Every new member to this site is required to prove he is not a woman, or a troll, or anyone similar. And this is not done by you putting it on us to ask you questions. Here's how you do it if you want to remain here:

    In this New Member Intros subforum there is a sticky called How To Intro. It has the specific questions you solicit us to provide. Read it fully and then revise your Intro to discuss in detail everything it asks you to discuss. Do not open a new thread with your revised Intro but revise the one in this thread.

    Each of us had to do one when we joined. Do not post any further until you have met this requirement. If you continue to post without a valid Intro, a Moderator will be contacting you.

    If you have now decided that you are premature in coming here, just say so. No harm, no foul.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchon View Post
    Is that a common occurrence around here (chicks faking accounts here)?

    If you have specific questions, I can answer them. It's not my place to prove to you I'm not a woman. You sound paranoid.
    It appears that you fail to realize that you do have to provide an acceptable introduction as per forum rules. If you don't do so, the moderators will be contacting you. I was merely pointing out your error before the mods contacted you. Yes, we have had women, blue pill trad cons, and professional level trolls frequently attempt to infiltrate this forum and other related forums. MWC was the most recent, but by no means the only example. If you actually read this forum and others, you will find many examples of what I referred to.
    Your projection of paranoia was worth a chuckle, so I will give you that much.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by AeternusDoleo View Post
    Ah, the belief in the shining unicorn. They do exist, yes, but they are what are now considered to be defective women. The classic masculine and feminine are both being obliterated by those who cannot attain either. The boarish man-woman who refuses any kind of accountability, and ultimately has it forced upon her. That's the "including women" part at the end of your statement, consequences slamming back into their faces, when now men simply don't want to be long term with what they have become. This, in the western world, is going to be a major problem. Men can still go find the feminine abroad - but what the man-woman wants - which boils down to a voluntary slave that defers to her - does not exist. So it tries to create it, not realizing you have to break the masculine to do so. And once that is gone, desire to produce, excel and chase the lasses goes with it.

    Society will suffer for this attempt. The birth rate will not recover while this is in effect. But it is a selfcorrecting problem because of that. Even now, the generation that is coming into adulthood is seeing the mess unbridled sexuality has left and they seem rightfully disgusted by it. Time will tell if the current early 20's folk will return a semblance of sanity to society, but the backlog of emotionally broken women and utterly indifferent men will cause problems down the line.
    So well said...all of it.

    One point I'll expound on, the part about them existing abroad. It's true. I'm recently retired from the military, and have lived all over the world, as well as the US. They do exist out there, but they aren't immune to this plague. It's slowly changing things everywhere. And on that note, I chose to retire in the deep, low population-density south, and I did it for mainly one reason...the trends of society here are typically a couple of decades behind the rest of the US. There still are submissive, good ole southern belles here. However, they are becoming fewer, and further between.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Sorry, but you are so incorrect, Anarchon. Since you had no idea this was a thing, then you may have leaped to join us before you sufficiently looked. Every new member to this site is required to prove he is not a woman, or a troll, or anyone similar. And this is not done by you putting it on us to ask you questions. Here's how you do it if you want to remain here:

    In this New Member Intros subforum there is a sticky called How To Intro. It has the specific questions you solicit us to provide. Read it fully and then revise your Intro to discuss in detail everything it asks you to discuss. Do not open a new thread with your revised Intro but revise the one in this thread.

    Each of us had to do one when we joined. Do not post any further until you have met this requirement. If you continue to post without a valid Intro, a Moderator will be contacting you.

    If you have now decided that you are premature in coming here, just say so. No harm, no foul.

    Thank you.
    You are correct. I wasn't aware the intro had to follow a certain format. For that, I apologize to the folks that own/run this place. Know that I thought I was doing the right thing by introducing myself first, but didn't see any fine print...and that I think I actually accidentally covered the main stuff you were asking for.

    That said, I'm not a fan of bureaucracy, nor will I entertain strangers that would demand an intrusion into my privacy on their terms. I realize this is your house, and your rules. So, if what I've offered so far doesn't suffice, then so be it. I'll part ways. Until I'm notified of this by a mod, I'll assume it's sufficient. If you like to play at being a mod and you aren't one, don't waste your time. And as for the guy up there that's so shell-shocked that he'd accuse a new person of being a woman as a greeting, know that you aren't doing this place any favors.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Oh look! A new forum member who can't be bothered to create a proper introduction or follow forum rules is accusing us of not doing the forum an favors. That is Classic shaming language, a typical female tactic. It's also a good example of the rationalization hamster wheel in action. New member who admits to being unfamiliar with the forum, and having not read the rules is telling us how to conduct ourselves on this forum. Obviously as a woman, she is used to being obeyed without question.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchon View Post
    I realize this is your house, and your rules. So, if what I've offered so far doesn't suffice, then so be it. I'll part ways. Until I'm notified of this by a mod, I'll assume it's sufficient. If you like to play at being a mod and you aren't one, don't waste your time.
    Your Intro is peer-reviewed, as is compliance. Defiance does not help you.
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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by ABigSiameseCat View Post
    Oh look! A new forum member who can't be bothered to create a proper introduction or follow forum rules is accusing us of not doing the forum an favors. That is Classic shaming language, a typical female tactic. It's also a good example of the rationalization hamster wheel in action. New member who admits to being unfamiliar with the forum, and having not read the rules is telling us how to conduct ourselves on this forum. Obviously as a woman, she is used to being obeyed without question.
    Shaming language? The only folks I've ever seen use that language were SJW's. In any case, I think being ashamed is natural and healthy, for both men and women. There are certainly things I've done in my life that I'm ashamed of. But, sticking up for myself has never been one of them.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Your Intro is peer-reviewed, as is compliance. Defiance does not help you.
    Then, review it all ya like. Unless you're one of the ones that enforces compliance, you're not runnin anything but your mouth on the rest.

    This is how a real man acts, btw.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchon View Post
    Then, review it all ya like. Unless you're one of the ones that enforces compliance, you're not runnin anything but your mouth on the rest.

    This is how a real man acts, btw.
    Your last line is hilarious! You've already trotted out the hoary "this is a how a reeeeaaaaaallll man acts..." You may set a record for the quickest banning that we have seen in a while. You aren't even a garden variety troll, just an angry feminist who is already insulting a senior forum member, Unboxxed.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    You aint doing yourself any favours, you dont go to someones country house et al and then say fuck you and wipe your muddy feet on the floor or go to a gym and not pay membership dues and tell the staff to fuck off when they ask you to pay. No intro, no membership to the forum. Dont like it? Leave.

    Your choice

    EDIT*** You say you are retired military? Imagine telling your C/O or up-line to get fucked when they ordered you to do something, ever do that? How far did that get ya?
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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by sirreaper View Post
    You aint doing yourself any favours, you dont go to someones country house et al and then say fuck you and wipe your muddy feet on the floor or go to a gym and not pay membership dues and tell the staff to fuck off when they ask you to pay. No intro, no membership to the forum. Dont like it? Leave.

    Your choice

    EDIT*** You say you are retired military? Imagine telling your C/O or up-line to get fucked when they ordered you to do something, ever do that? How far did that get ya?
    I didn't go into anyone's house and say "fuck you", nor did wipe my feet on the floor. If you'll read up, I actually apologized for not seeing the fine print. I was also respectful to the mods and whoever owns this place...until now. I only challenged someone that called me a woman, which you faggots should have no problem with.

    Now, I said if it didn't pass muster, I'd bow out. But, you've chosen to be rude first. So, now you can go fuck yourselves.

    I imagine there's some good people on here, and frankly, I've already seen some evidence of that. There is an honorable worldview, some good philosophies, and much good to learn from people in this new area for me. But, I think there are also some beta incel faggots that never left their mom's basement around here. Women were never these guys' problem. Their problem always was, and forever will be themselves.

    You scared little bitches that have let some previous hecklers change the way you do things, and your environment, to the point of making a new guy that's really interested in this stuff come to this confrontation on his first day have lost whatever war it is you think you're fighting. You've let the terrorists win.

    You ain't the only game in town, so I'll go elsewhere, where they aren't pissing and shaking in their boots about the possibility of some measly girl infiltrating their ranks that might make fun of them one time and shatter their fragile egos.

    This place is clown shoes.

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    Re: I had no idea this was a thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchon View Post
    I didn't go into anyone's house and say "fuck you", nor did wipe my feet on the floor. If you'll read up, I actually apologized for not seeing the fine print. I was also respectful to the mods and whoever owns this place...until now. I only challenged someone that called me a woman, which you faggots should have no problem with.

    Now, I said if it didn't pass muster, I'd bow out. But, you've chosen to be rude first. So, now you can go fuck yourselves.

    I imagine there's some good people on here, and frankly, I've already seen some evidence of that. There is an honorable worldview, some good philosophies, and much good to learn from people in this new area for me. But, I think there are also some beta incel faggots that never left their mom's basement around here. Women were never these guys' problem. Their problem always was, and forever will be themselves.

    You scared little bitches that have let some previous hecklers change the way you do things, and your environment, to the point of making a new guy that's really interested in this stuff come to this confrontation on his first day have lost whatever war it is you think you're fighting. You've let the terrorists win.

    You ain't the only game in town, so I'll go elsewhere, where they aren't pissing and shaking in their boots about the possibility of some measly girl infiltrating their ranks that might make fun of them one time and shatter their fragile egos.

    This place is clown shoes.
    100% a female troll or 100% clueless as to why having women in a men's ranks doesnt work. If they were "military" they would have seen it day in day out. Either way she's out.
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