Thread: Hello brothers from other mothers. MenWithoutChains here.

@Unboxxed I did the intro, and you seem one of the rational and non conspiratory guys here so thank you for understand my intent was not malicious, and that i possess the plasticity to adapt to the new demands said to me.

I think we in fact were too nice to this piece of shit mangina.
I have said it before but it bears repeating, the best way to tell if it the poster is a gynocracist of some sort, is to ask him/her to provide insights about female manipulation; in particular from personal relationships.

Once they start calling you conspiratorial or paranoid, then you know they are a stingy bastard who are hiding life saving information about female manipulation which if shared would make even the biggest blue-piller leave the plantation.

Originally Posted by Opaque

I think we in fact were too nice to this piece of shit mangina.
I have said it before but it bears repeating, the best way to tell if it the poster is a gynocracist of some sort, is to ask him/her to provide insights about female manipulation; in particular from personal relationships.

Once they start calling you conspiratorial or paranoid, then you know they are a stingy bastard who are hiding life saving information about female manipulation which if shared would make even the biggest blue-piller leave the plantation.

I agree, and I wish I had the guts to tell our own members to stop saying Welcome! until the newbie first passes the Intro test. To me, it's like letting a newbie start attending union meetings by just walking in the door and us figuring some steward somewhere will at some future meeting chase the newbie down and nag him into signing a union card. You can't do it that way or you get a bunch of trouble coming through the door. The Intro is a test, a screening process, not some archaic formality. Yet, now and then it's as though some members will say Welcome! to just about any kind of hello. The Intro is designed to catch the mental misfits and the Trojans. We should all let it do its job and withhold our welcome until the Intro vets the newbie. It doesn't mean we are assholes for waiting.

I really wish this website package had a way to segregate newbies who register for a linked user name from posting outside of the New Members forum until their Intro is approved by a Moderator. That way, all of this never-ending sturm and drang between experienced members and brand new members might be avoided. And, those who do not register for a linked username can be restricted to Opposing Views forum, which appears to be the case for them.

As it is, it's like any of us volunteer to be the bouncer at the door, but no one ever knows who is on duty as the bouncer, or no one is on duty, or all of a sudden, several of us are on duty like what happened to MWC here. Although, without a streamlined system, I prefer having a lot of bouncers. I see the camaraderie in that.

I sometimes been guilty of this and ended up looking bad. Usually after nobody else wanted to do anything. It takes awhile to tell a troll from a guy with not so good English, and I sometimes gave them the benefit of the doubt. Or once or twice clobbered guys who didn't do anything.

Trouble is, we don't have a system. Some rookies get asked a lot of questions, others set there for weeks with no comments or questions at all. A lot of times things seem to peter out before a decision ever gets made. Even if you left my recent name calling out of it (sorry Porkncheese), we aren't doing very well.


I'm not suggesting a 24 hour watch on intros, but no action for weeks is not good either. Also, after Ace got banned, I thought the mods were going to have final say as to who got in. The mods have tossed people out now and then, but have otherwise mostly left intros alone. Is anyone deciding now days? It don't look like it.

Originally Posted by frog

I sometimes been guilty of this and ended up looking bad. Usually after nobody else wanted to do anything. It takes awhile to tell a troll from a guy with not so good English, and I sometimes gave them the benefit of the doubt. Or once or twice clobbered guys who didn't do anything.

Trouble is, we don't have a system. Some rookies get asked a lot of questions, others set there for weeks with no comments or questions at all. A lot of times things seem to peter out before a decision ever gets made. Even if you left my recent name calling out of it (sorry Porkncheese), we aren't doing very well.


I'm not suggesting a 24 hour watch on intros, but no action for weeks is not good either. Also, after Ace got banned, I thought the mods were going to have final say as to who got in. The mods have tossed people out now and then, but have otherwise mostly left intros alone. Is anyone deciding now days? It don't look like it.

Best thing to do would be to take it up with Jagr, the Site Admin and owner....

Originally Posted by sirreaper

Best thing to do would be to take it up with Jagr, the Site Admin and owner....

PM sent to Jagr asking him to come to this thread.

Originally Posted by sirreaper

Best thing to do would be to take it up with Jagr, the Site Admin and owner....

Guess I asked for that one. But I'm not trying to give the mods more work. Am not sure what the answer is either, come to that. Like Unboxxed says, some rookies get asked a ton of questions, others nothing. Then often as not they disappear, rather we liked them or not. We never find out what they really were. I suppose this is normal, but I don't belong to enough forums to tell.

Lots a guys avoid intros like the plague. but there's some that would help.

So, MWC has been unbanned. I don't think I looked at the is intro last time.

Here's the thing:

Of course bigots and people scared to look inside, will not appreciate that and it will most probably be the reason to get banned as they did to me at the reddit forum.
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If the community here is open enough and is not afraid of introspection, i suspect i won't have a similar problem, and will find a platform for expressing myself.
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, constructive dialogue on the content would be much more appreciated.

I get a little 'eeh' about attempts to set up the terms of discussion in such a way that anyone who disagrees or dislikes a person's postings is an "bigot" or "scared to look inside" or not "open enough" or "afraid of introspection". If someone posts something, that person doesn't somehow get a right to gatekeep how other people are permitted to respond to it, they don't get a right to decide what is and isn't "constructive dialogue". This forum does not have any sort of obligation to provide MWC with responses that he might "appreciate".

The main rule is: no insulting other members. And that's mostly it.

And moreover, it's a little paranoid, you know? A little bit "secret king". A little bit "delusions of grandeur". "They banned me because I'm so awesome and they were threatened". You know that whole woman thing of "I can't get a b/f because men are threatened"? A little bit that.

Maybe I'm "trolling". Perhaps this is "gaslighting", or "showing how much I don't care". Maybe, just maybe I'm plain "nihilistic". But labelling and shaming right off the bat - it's a bit of a giveaway.

I'm sure MWC will be banned again, in due course. After all, you can't teach an "oldman" new tricks, particularly not the really intelligent ones. ( https://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/ ) . A bit of a shame - his content is quite ok, really.

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Perhaps an intro that's less about us and more about you might be in order.

Well you can't play the prophet really, you don't know me as noone here does, and thanks by the way for appreciating the content. As for the other guy i quarreled with him ccause he behaves like crap but i took my lesson to ghost those forum members as i'd ghost similar testosterone overloaded mediocre IQ and lacking in values bully wannabes in real life. As for why i was banned already spoke the honest reason back then. When i asked the mod to give me an explanation he said trolling. When i began to wrote anti-MGTOW philosophical/theological articles. MGTOW is not my religion no matter if it is my lifetime choice. It's a human institution and as such its subject to scrutiny.

MWC, you wrote a revised Intro on December 5 but in a brand new thread and it was not cross-referenced to THIS thread, so I am doing so now, so people won't miss it like I did.

http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...pefully-11468/

Thank you.

Originally Posted by MenWithoutChains

Well you can't play the prophet really,

Apologies - I came here from unboxxed's comment no another thread, and hadn't seen that you had posted that other intro. This is all old news.

When they call you a misogynist, just tell them that may continue to do so until such time they come up with an apt word or phrase for a "general disdain for shitty female behavior".

Of course, to say anything negative about women, even if true - nay, ESPECIALLY if true, is to "hate" women, because hatred for women is not necessarily hurting them or destroying them, hating them is saying something 'bad' (read: true, but unsavory) about their nature, or just believing they have nothing to offer, or simply wanting nothing to do with them.

Females are the only living thing on earth that loathe of living things that go out of their way to avoid them.

Intersting that you view mgtow secularist because I have seen men utilize religious knowledge to explain male and female nature that was observed thousands of years ago which hasn't changed up to this point of human history.

MGTOW is viewed nihilistic in some sense that once you accept the default mode of human nature you can see through the behavioral patterns that repeat over and over again.

Which leads to defeatism which ties into nihilism. But defeatism is described by some if you do not have kids but most people will not recognize their genetic lineages thousands of years from now or millions of years from now when the sun dies and when the last red dwarf is turned out.

I would argue it is not defeatism to embrace true female nature and to lead a content filled and happy life as a man instead of dwelling on the black pill of nihilism. But nihilism is necessary to acknowledge in that it is out there. But it also leads to a new opportunity in that it gives a man a blank canvass to do whatever his heart desires instead of following life scripts, marriage 1.0 or marriage 2.0.

As for mgtow pillars the only ones that come close to that would probably be don't marry a woman and don't cohabitate with a woman. But those are not pillars but more of safety measures. To risky to take such chances when you know the outcome is not favorable for a man.

Originally Posted by MenWithoutChains

That was pretty much my "official relationships" experience. Now about flings, sluts, female toxicity, bullying, slander that women do, borderline paranoia and other spicy stuff that i saw from women i can write a book about them, and certainly helped to fortify my misogyny, but i'm bored to mention them here

I'm not feeling it. Not asking for a book, but I am asking you to slightly bore us with the details.

Here's what I read: "I once kissed a girl, but it turns out she was a promiscuous kisser. In high school, I dated a girl, she was a dancer and the love of my life, then she kissed another dude. In college I dated another really hot chick, because I'm really hot, and then she moved to France and ended up dating a French dude."

That's not going to cut it.

It's experiences like these that inform men on their path to MGTOW, but I don't really see a progression with you. Please flesh this out a little bit more.

Also, I'm going to merge this thread with your other intro thread.

Finally, misogyny is not actually something we encourage here. If you think that's what we do, or if that's what you do, I think you might not be a good fit for our community.

Mr. Chains has been stringing us along from the start. It was right to give them a chance, but he has taken all our slack and give back nothing. Laying low when it's hot, sneaking in later, ignoring posts they don't like, that's not what members do. The sooner Mr. Chains name has a line through it, the better I'll like it.

I didn't notice anything in this thread that would get anyone banned. MWC, yeah, so you're rough around the edges...I get that and have no problem with it. I like this forum more than other MGTOW forums because the moderators are on top of things. It makes things more interesting. I'm looking forward to reading your future posts. Sometimes folks around here jump the gun a bit, but it's better than having a troll that's constantly trying to get fed. Welcome to the site. I hope you don't piss off too many people (LOL!).

Sorry JT, as of yesterday MWC is now MWF, or man without forum.


They was awful hard for me to figure out, I could read their shit 14 times and still not understand where they was going. But I understand this, they was jacking us around from the start, and are not our friend. I reckon they believe in their cause, however screwed up it may be, but that don't excuse their trolling.


Too bad Mr. Chains big ego wouldn't let him post over in opposing views. He'd a fit right in with that crowd.

Originally Posted by Joetech

I didn't notice anything in this thread that would get anyone banned. MWC, yeah, so you're rough around the edges...I get that and have no problem with it. I like this forum more than other MGTOW forums because the moderators are on top of things. It makes things more interesting. I'm looking forward to reading your future posts. Sometimes folks around here jump the gun a bit, but it's better than having a troll that's constantly trying to get fed. Welcome to the site. I hope you don't piss off too many people (LOL!).

His intro was simply inadequate. That's the long and the short of it. He was asked to flesh it out a bit. He added more words, but no real detail that would give us insight into who he is.

He was instructed not to post in other areas of the forum until he'd gotten the green light from the mod team in reference to his intro. He posted anyway, so he's gone.

Furthermore, some of the other posts contained questionable thought processes calculated to make our community look bad, and that is not tolerated.

User out thread closed.