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    Good to be here.

    Hello all,

    I have been looking at this and other men's forums a while. Lurking in other words. There's plenty of negativity out there but the values and priorities of this forum seem excellent to me - moderators who keep it moderate, avoiding the negativity that is so easy to fall into, and regulars who are a positive force.

    I have made the marriage commitment twice, have been out of the second one for two years now.

    I can recall quite a few events and insights from adolescence onwards that were a glimpse behind the curtain of female privilege disguised as female disadvantage. I think the law here in Australia is less savage than what I read in the accounts from the USA, and have not been severely done-over myself, but I'm still personally appalled by the background belief that men need to compensate women for the privilege we supposedly enjoy - when so many men only do what is spouse-approved, or have to go behind their wives' backs to follow their dreams.

    I read Myth of Male Power many years ago and again as a refresher about four years ago and I think he has nailed it, and I'm not aware of any counter-argument on the facts. Just more whining and ad hominem attacks!

    So through my recent separation, although I had some reason to expect a fair outcome under local law, I also knew I'd have to be firm and ready to fight to have any chance to get that outcome. No children involved this time, children were involved the first time but to my relief the mother did not make that a battleground.

    I work in the education and health/ welfare field, where obviously a lot of women work, and I work on men's women's and kids problems a lot. Definitely fathers missing from kids lives is a huge problem and won't play out well in the future. Lots of hard working women in the field who I really respect as workers, but some can and do easily display a treacherous and self interested attitude to their partners that they wouldn't dream of putting on their colleagues and customers. What enables them to do this is the fact that marriage has been stripped of all obligations other than the financial. It's a contract with only penalty clauses and that means there is no longer any shame in trashing your lifetime vows.

    On my own again, the money just builds up and the fun just keeps coming via hobbies, outdoors, fitness, reading about the world, music. Similar to what so many others on the forum report - where did the time and the money go and why was I always keeping an eye out for trouble? It moved out when she did.

    Still very easy to fall into thinking 'that woman's interesting now I'll figure out how to approach' and the way this forum links those of us who've seen behind the curtain has to be a good safety mechanism. Not sure I'm completely done with relationships but probably don't have time for one, too busy living life. The libido being less than it used to be does make it a lot easier I must say.

    I chose the user name because it was a stage in chemistry before oxygen was identified, where the explanation of fire was completely back to front. The parallel with modern relationships is pretty obvious....

    That's all I've got right now but will be back. Thank you all for being here, you have done me a lot of good already.


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    Senior Member Unboxxed's Avatar
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    Mar 2014

    Re: Good to be here.

    Hi Phlogiston,

    I'm sorry that no one has welcomed you all of this time!

    What hobbies are you into?

    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
    - Henry David Thoreau

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    Senior Member Opaque's Avatar
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    Re: Good to be here.

    Alright mate, could you talk about how women have manipulated you?, give us some examples.
    How do you find women now as opposed to your blue pill mentality? What sources online/offline lead you to MGTOW?

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    Moderator William Noy's Avatar
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    Re: Good to be here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Alright mate, could you talk about how women have manipulated you?, give us some examples.
    How do you find women now as opposed to your blue pill mentality? What sources online/offline lead you to MGTOW?
    I agree with Opaque. Please tell us some of your stories (or one really good one).
    Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. --Seneca

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