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    Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    Here's a small primer for the new guys coming here-because on my path to enlightenment from the darkness of "regular" life, I encountered some turbulence. Like aviators on the wing, we should share what info we can for those flying behind us.

    Just remember-while some of the following might seem awful, in fact its confirmation you're making the best decision for yourself.

    1)Your Friends will Abandon You.
    Saddle up. Remember the group of people you hang with regularly? They're still waking up and going to bed thinking women are spice and everything nice.Nothing you can share or tell them can bring enlightenment-that is something each individual must decide to accept for themselves . Go ahead, share your tales of hypergamy and woe. They wont comprehend your words.

    Keep it up, and they'll be ready to call the authorities. Rejecting Marriage!!??! Not dating single moms? Youre turning down fat women? Somethin' wrong wit cha , boy. Are you gay ?

    Which brings me to topic two:

    2) You will piss off women.

    When youre free of the social baggage being a bluepill drone is, when you can go home to a quiet home of your choosing, and pick your own lifestyle choices without deferring to females, it will show in your mannerisms and actions.Ive tried pretending to be a traditional man around women-the act doesnt hold up long, because your very actions all but screem "FREE". Some women will react with offense ,and will toss hurtful words and actions at you to "bring you down".Others will be turned on enough to want to sleep with you, which takes us to three....

    3)Your friends' women will chase you.

    If you want to nuke a friendship as fast as possible, indulge his woman in some infidelity.Becuase of modern social structures, you will be blamed for the fallout....even if she started it. Youll realize that of the few good guy friends you associate with, their women will all have one thing in common-they'll want you.

    As you share more stories from your not-domesticated life, she'll see you as a better conquest then your friend. She'll be bold about it too,becauz female psychology demands she seeks the most alpha man around-and by default , youll rank higher then your relationship-saddled pal. You'll be in the no-win scenario of having to either yield to her desires (friendship grows wings) or offending her when you say "No" ( she ultimatum's your friend into not seeing you frequently ,so friendship grows wings).

    Best solution to this problem is to carefully ensure you only hang out with the male half ,and to avoid one-on-one presence with his master/spouse.


    It may seem youre losing a lot by reading this.But you'll know what you've gained when , perhaps a year or so from now, youll understand the guy going his own way is a better man then the domesticated appliance with lots of fake friends and a harridan behind his ear.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    "Keep it up, and they'll be ready to call the authorities. Rejecting Marriage!!??! Not dating single moms? Youre turning down fat women? Somethin' wrong wit cha , boy. Are you gay ?"

    Or you will get the "You're not a real man!" I got that on Friday night. It's pathetic to see men define their masculinity with their utility to a female. The pre-formulated life they live is a lie.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    New or not, unless you've been painfully up front to everyone regarding your position on relationships, people will bother you and pester for information even if those queries are overly personal in nature.

    People who even get the idea that you're fine without being saddled with a woman to rule over you, your decisions, your free time, your money, etc., they can become agitated. People toss around the words 'live and let live', but if they get the idea you're not living as miserably as they are in their own relationship(s), then you better be ready to 'explain yourself'. It's 'funny' that if you're not at least paying lip service to the idea of putting a collar around your neck for a woman, they'll become insulted and overly personal in their questions of you and your life faster than you can say misogyny.

    Misery loves company. Live and let live, as long as you validate the choices they've made in their lives in the process.

    Addendum:
    If this happens at work. Don't hesitate. Report their asses to HR as harassment. Keep it simple, be calm, maintain frame. The one getting personal with you was being overly questioning of your personal life and your reason for coming forward is that you want things at work to maintain a a certain level of professional. That keeps people from hounding you as much later on, and it also gives you extra emphasis when you decline 'company sponsored culture and togetherness events'.
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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    This is solid material Octavian. Stickied.
    Who's Chairborne? Office worker & Army Reservist, into electronic music, drummer in a jam band, table-top RPGs, bicycling, X-country skiing, biathlon & marksmanship, TV-free for 15 years.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    This is good stuff Octavian. Well done.

    I’ve noticed a rather ironic turn of events since I fully ingested the red pill. I now walk around in my daily work and personal life with a distinct air of confidence and utter indifference, completely not giving a shit about anything women say or do. Their looks, their smell, their mannerisms are all invisible to me. And you know what??? I have become MORE attractive to them, not less!!! I shit you not. What kind of twisted fucktard of a creature gets more aroused by being blatantly ignored??? This just further cements in my mind that we are dealing with wholly unstable beings. For all the lurkers out there, don’t waste your time with this shit. It is completely useless.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Octavian View Post
    3)Your friends' women will chase you.

    If you want to nuke a friendship as fast as possible, indulge his woman in some infidelity.Becuase of modern social structures, you will be blamed for the fallout....even if she started it. Youll realize that of the few good guy friends you associate with, their women will all have one thing in common-they'll want you.

    As you share more stories from your not-domesticated life, she'll see you as a better conquest then your friend. She'll be bold about it too,becauz female psychology demands she seeks the most alpha man around-and by default , youll rank higher then your relationship-saddled pal. You'll be in the no-win scenario of having to either yield to her desires (friendship grows wings) or offending her when you say "No" ( she ultimatum's your friend into not seeing you frequently ,so friendship grows wings).
    My friends are probably pretty lucky... I've never seen my friends' women as "on the menu."

    I've had various girlfriends/wives undress "accidentally" in front of me (oh, I forgot you were in here tee hee hee), and it's just a huge turnoff. I guess it's in the way I've trained my mind, but they might as well be dudes stripping in front of me, and I don't want to see it.
    Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. --Seneca

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    - You will see more clearly the absurdity of mass media which caters to the lowest common denominator.

    - If gainfully employed your bank account should rise.

    - Your "true" friends will stick around; anyone who appreciates your company regardless of being a confirmed bachelor/mgtow will remain in the picture.

    - Time can be much more easily managed when effort to pursue parasites is reduced/removed from your life.

    - You get a better filter for new people who come into your life.
    because even solitude is better than evil company.” - Bartolomeo Scala

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    I am new to this blog..I loved it.. but what about if a woman is pissed off (e.g. she tries to humiliate me publicly in her own way, e.g. getting educated men to mock at me/ laud her while she hits me/ throws a drink at my face... We know the drill of the scorned/jilted woman) and I abuse her or do the same to her (e.g. citing out her bad in bed experiences publicly cause most women do that as well)...and then she informs the cops and I get arrested for "criminal intent to outrage the modesty of a woman" Most cops do not want to believe men...

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahul1987 View Post
    I am new to this blog..I loved it.. but what about if a woman is pissed off (e.g. she tries to humiliate me publicly in her own way, e.g. getting educated men to mock at me/ laud her while she hits me/ throws a drink at my face... We know the drill of the scorned/jilted woman) and I abuse her or do the same to her (e.g. citing out her bad in bed experiences publicly cause most women do that as well)...and then she informs the cops and I get arrested for "criminal intent to outrage the modesty of a woman" Most cops do not want to believe men...
    Please go to the intro forum and write an introduction before posting elsewhere:
    http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-intros/

    Here is a thread on how to do a proper intro:

    http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-intros/intro-27/
    Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. --Seneca

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    Couldn't have said it better Octavian. I'm still learning and new to all this. I will tell some of the things that have happened to me and encountered so far in my life.

    Back when I was going to grade school, I had this one friend who I would spend a lot of time hanging out with, since 1st grade. I wasn't very popular and neither was he. We were pretty close to each other in elementary school. But before my 6th grade year, I moved and then ended up going to a different elementary school. We lost a lot of contact that year and communication was minimal. Where I lived at that time, middle school was only 7th and 8th grade. One year later passed and we ended up going to the same middle school. When I met up with him, I noticed a change in him, and it wasn't a good one. He had made new friends, which I was happy about, during the year I couldn't keep much contact with him. But it all fell apart when he had lost interest in me, and would strictly stay with his new friends and I wasn't very welcomed. The thing is, I learned at that time friendship doesn't mean anything if someone can find better people with a higher status. In other words, I was abandoned, disposed of.

    A few years ago, I went to a wedding of a relative. It was really nothing but just a big party like how a lot of them are. Everyone was drinking alcohol heavily and drunk. I was sitting by myself watching the whole thing go on, I wasn't drinking. Then a woman, who was severely drunk, asked if I would dance with her. I said yes but kept my distance. Some time passed dancing, I wasn't very good but it was still fun and finished eventually. She took her car keys out and dangled them in front of me, and I realized immediately what that meant. I've met the woman before, and I was aware that she had a fiancé. I fled and didn't see her anymore that night. I know stuff like this happens all the time, but I was rather disturbed to be in the middle of something like this. I put zero effort in the whole thing and I could've gotten myself in hot water over something I didn't start in the first place.

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    Us men living in this modern social structure, we're seen as bad, period. Only to be used as a disposable organic tool who's health and well being don't matter at all. For the modern woman, that wedding ring on her finger never meant anything ever and will remove it when she finds a better man to take advantage of and destroy.

    Thanks Octavian, I'm learning the baby steps to go forth with my Freedom.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    Knowledge is power.
    Power is freedom.
    Failure is wisdom and a lesson learned well.

    Teach other MGTOW how to win, not how to fail.

    We are winning, so don't let up, don't leave off, do
    not despair.

    Press on with as much compassion and truth as you
    have to offer.

    Teach what you know to all boys who wish to be men.

    Above all, respect one another.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    Wow I love this post. Agree with all this stuff. Kinda have a bit of a take on each:

    1. Friends actually left me prior. You know, cuz I was a drone who only prioritized my then gf now ex. Still what few people remain have distanced themselves because I don't want to waste my time "Getting over the break up" with strip joints and clubs and such. Or the usual "What are you, gay?" thing. Yep. I am gay. As in the definition of "happy". Happy to be free that is.

    2. Lol yep. It's already happening and the break up is not even a week old. I still have a few female friends around who are saying "No break up with her. There are other girls out there" Which even then made me feel as "Be single so I have another option in case I need one". But when I also say "Hm. I think I need some time alone from relationships for now" And say that earnestly (which it is), they are like "noooo that's not fair to you. You should give others a chance" and blah, yet it's those same women who were pushing me to break up?

    On a side note my now ex broke up with me because "You did nothing wrong. I don't want this as much as you do". The fact that I actually basically overdosed on blue pills to be the "perfect boyfriend", and whom she claimed she liked physically, emotionally, mentally etc., yet still SHE Broke up with me? I actually almost wanted to laugh once we were done talking because it made me realize that not only did she lie and/or hold something back, but how does it make any sense to leave someone you like in every way possible??

    No. She left me for reasons that she avoided to bring up, such as my weak monetary status, or the fact that a lot of stuff she's into I'm not and vice versa (like games music, simple things like that)

    Or even that I was getting in her way because I wanted to spend a little more time with her. I'm pretty sure she gave me the "you are perfect but its not you its me" BS because she either found someone else, and/or my pockets weren't deep enough.

    Who cares why. I have been more productive this week with my work and life than I have been in the 3+ years I've known her. But I digress...

    3. While due to no.1 this is mostly not an issue, every single girl I know now suddenly is more interested in talking to me, even if casually (some of which egged me to break up with my ex, even though the ex did all the breaking and I still tried to salvage it, like an idiot)

    It's still too soon to tell, but I get the feeling that the single girls will now be happy that (in their minds) another potential drone is out there again.

    But too bad for them that I'm gonna be chugging those red pills now like House pops Vicodin.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes View Post
    New or not, unless you've been painfully up front to everyone regarding your position on relationships, people will bother you and pester for information even if those queries are overly personal in nature.

    People who even get the idea that you're fine without being saddled with a woman to rule over you, your decisions, your free time, your money, etc., they can become agitated. People toss around the words 'live and let live', but if they get the idea you're not living as miserably as they are in their own relationship(s), then you better be ready to 'explain yourself'. It's 'funny' that if you're not at least paying lip service to the idea of putting a collar around your neck for a woman, they'll become insulted and overly personal in their questions of you and your life faster than you can say misogyny.

    Misery loves company. Live and let live, as long as you validate the choices they've made in their lives in the process.

    Addendum:
    If this happens at work. Don't hesitate. Report their asses to HR as harassment. Keep it simple, be calm, maintain frame. The one getting personal with you was being overly questioning of your personal life and your reason for coming forward is that you want things at work to maintain a a certain level of professional. That keeps people from hounding you as much later on, and it also gives you extra emphasis when you decline 'company sponsored culture and togetherness events'.
    I've never been married. I've had more than one friend admit to me that they were envious or thought I was extremely wise because of it.

    And as for the OP, I can say that he's right about your friends' women wanting you. I'm not sure what the folks here think about "the bro-code," but personally I think it's a very important part of life.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Octavian View Post
    Keep it up, and they'll be ready to call the authorities. Rejecting Marriage!!??! Not dating single moms? Youre turning down fat women? Somethin' wrong wit cha , boy. Are you gay ?
    I remember coming across the term, "confirmed bachelor" one day. Being a life-long bachelor, I googled it to see what it meant. There were a lot of references to it historically meaning a fag. I guess folks can't allow rational men that don't get sucked into the status-quo to ever be considered normal.

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    Re: Things To Expect as New Men Going Your Own Way.

    The OP just described how I broke up with my girlfriend.
    "Don't follow in my footsteps. I stepped in something."


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