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    Re: How do I know I am an addict?

    Hey y'all,

    A young man (mid twenties) who here who found a few months ago MGTOW before any particular woman could deal serious damage. I have been fortunate enough to learn from those around me. My parents had an insufferable marriage. Many older friends/co-workers have divorced and they've lost homes, wives, and children, while being indebted for life by alimony and child-support.

    I could hardly believe my ears when an older co-worker told me he was paying about $4,000 a month to an ex-wife who he didn't have children with. He said, "Never get married. They'll take your hard earned money and rip your heart out while doing it." I am so lucky to have met men like this at the beginning of my professional career.

    Although, I must admit, my emotions and thoughts are still continuously invaded by women. Everyday I take a red-pill (consume some red-pill media) to counter the thoughts and feelings I have about women. Any advice on how to stop these perverse time consuming thoughts and emotions is appreciated.

    Woman have been an addiction the majority of my adult life. After I rephrased the questions from rightstep.com of "How do I know I am an addict?", I realized I am an addict. And, that is going to change.

    1. Do you feel a compulsion for a woman's validation to get through the day?
    a) Yes, until recently I would use Facebook and Instagram to talk to women nearly everyday.

    2. Do you crave for a woman's validation at a specific time every day?
    a) Yes, to motivate myself to get out of bed and go to work I would respond to messages sent by women the previous day.

    3. Have you ever sought medical attention because of your want for a woman's validation?
    a) Yes, I sought counseling after hanging out with my college friend with benefits. She always wanted to do some drugs. After coming down from a cough syrup high I became depressed and sought counseling. Luckily my graduation was only a few months away and left this friend behind.

    4. Has anyone ever suggested you quit or cut back on your validation from woman?
    a) Nope. Except my friend who introduced me to MGTOW.

    5. Have you made promises to control your validation from woman and broken them?
    a) Yes. In the past month after promising myself to not reach out to women, and not validate them. I got numbers of a couple ladies.

    6. Have you tried multiple times to stop yearning a woman's validation without success?
    a) Yes, the problem I have right now is as soon as I forget about a lady another one seems to be right there in front of me giving me that come fuck me look.

    7. Has your performance at school, work or home been affected by your want for a woman's validation?
    a) Yes, at the times that I isolate myself from woman my performance from work with work and hobbies drastically improves.

    8. Is your want for a woman's validation jeopardizing your job or business?
    a) No.

    9. Has your want for a woman's validation interfered or caused problems with personal relationships?
    a) No.

    10. Has a want for a woman's validation led to financial difficulties?
    a) No.

    11. Have you become less ambitious or productive since a want for a woman's validation?
    a) Yes, I remember when I was a teenager. Although I was horny, my focus was school and acquiring an education.

    12. Do you constantly think about the next time you can get validation from a woman?
    a) Almost everyday.

    13. Have you suffered from memory loss after receiving validation from a woman?
    a) Yes.

    14. Are you able to receive a woman's validation now without feeling the repercussions, compared to when you first started?
    a) I am more aware of the repercussions now, than I was before.

    15. Do you experience withdrawal symptoms after a period of time in which you haven’t received a woman's validation?
    a) I feel withdrawal only immediately after receiving a woman’s validation. The withdrawal typically lasts about 3 to 4 days. After which the craving for any woman drop dramatically.

    16. Do you go to extensive lengths to obtain a woman's validation?
    a) Yes, I study and practiced PUA for years.

    17. Do you remain intoxicated by a woman for several days at a time?
    a) I did in the past, before finding MGTOW. That’s when I realized I need to stop.

    18. Do you say or do things while intoxicated by a woman you later regret when sober?
    a) Yep.

    18. Is your want for a woman's validation a means to escape worries or troubles?
    a) No. My worries were if I do not have a woman’s validation I am not living the human experience to its fullest potential.

    20. Do you want a woman's validation when alone?
    a) No. It is when I surround myself with other people, they have always pushed this idea that I need to find someone. When I am alone, I find tranquility in being alone.

    21. Do you want a woman's validation because you are shy with other people?
    a) Not at all.

    22. Do you want a woman's validation to build self-confidence?
    a) No.

    23. Are you experiencing sleeping problems due to a woman's validation?
    a) I did in the past.

    24. Are you hanging out with old blue-pill buddies you knew before red-pilling?
    a) Yes, this causes me to crave woman.

    25. Do you experience distress, anxiety, depression, restlessness or feelings of aggression when you don’t receive a woman's validation?
    a) Not any more.


    1. Relationship history
    a) I have never had girlfriend. For the longest time a girlfriend is all I wanted. I studied and practiced PUA for almost ten years. My ideology was, adapt to the dating culture and when I find a good one, don’t fuck it up.

    The most recent gal I met in Finland. It was the greatest sex in my life. I invited her to come visit me in the US. She came for 5 weeks, after week one I realized it was a mistake. We fucked all the time, and that was great as long as the lights were off.

    Anytime the lights were on I was repulsed by her. She even expressed that she felt like I did not want her there. I wasn’t about to tell her that she was fatter than when I met her, I simply let the 5 weeks go by.

    It wasn’t until she was gone that I was able to recognize the con that had been pulled. I invited her to my house, paid for a rental car to travel around the country, paid for most of the food, alcohol, paid for gas, basically the only thing I didn’t pay for was her fucking ticket.

    I enjoy traveling and would have spent most of this money anyway. The thing that gets me is she had the audacity to complain and be a whiny bitch.

    We are on the way to camping on the beach, and she starts complaining about how she doesn’t want to camp on the beach. This was the plan that we had agreed to weeks ago.

    I paid for almost everything. I planned everything, brought her to the Grand Canyon, paid for some hotels, we went to Vegas (not because I wanted to), and etc.

    The thing that she knows I love most, camping, and she has the audacity to throw a hissy fit. Fuck you, stupid ungrateful cunt.

    I ignored her and we went to the beach. I set up the tent, aired up the mattress, had some wine, and that’s when the only thing she could muster was, “I’m sorry.”

    Saying “I’m sorry” for acting like a child is not enough, especially after everything I did for her.

    At the time all this happened I was too pussy whipped to consider how I was being played. I was happy she apologized and then I then I fucked her.

    A few months later I was traveling to France. I stupidly invited her to come see me. We chatted, and she was still jobless. She told me she couldn’t afford the flight. That was my line in the sand, I was not about to pay for her flight. Eventually she told me, I have the money for the flight, that she wants to come.

    I asked her if she had gotten a job. “Nope.” she replied. I didn’t inquire about how she got the money to pay for the flight.

    There was only one stipulation, if you come visit me no smoking. She couldn’t do it. HAHA!!! Dumb bitch picked cigarettes.
    2. Awareness
    a) I really believed that women could fall in love. Now I realize, that is not the case. I was a PUA because I looking for that woman who would be my best friend, support me when I was down, we would have amazing sex, and travel the world together.

    Right now there’s a sunken feeling in my stomach. It’s clear that the lie I have been holding onto all these years is never going to happen.

    I do recognize that life is better on my own. Logically everything makes sense, emotionally, I see a pretty lady, and I still feel, “Maybe she’s the one.”
    3. Who Am I
    a)
    I live for exploring national parks, dance, skiing, jujitsu, and finding the most serene corners of the earth.

    This winter I will be skiing, in Colorado, Utah, California, and Canada.

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    Re: How do I know I am an addict?

    The clock is running out. Intro time is near.

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    Re: How do I know I am an addict?

    The reason why an intro is important is because it shows you have an interest of joining discussions with clear intentions.

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    Re: How do I know I am an addict?

    Guess he really was a sex addict.
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    Re: How do I know I am an addict?

    1. Relationship history
    a) I have never had girlfriend. For the longest time a girlfriend is all I wanted. I studied and practiced PUA for about ten years now. My ideology was, adapt to the dating culture and when I find a good one, don’t fuck it up.

    The most recent gal was a lady I met in Finland. It was the greatest sex in my life. I invited her to come visit me in the US. She came for 5 weeks, after week one I realized it was a mistake. We fucked all the time, and that was great as long as the lights were off.

    Anytime the lights were on I was repulsed by her. She even expressed that she felt like I did not want her there. I wasn’t about to tell her that she was fatter than when I met her, I simply let the 5 weeks go by.

    It wasn’t until she was gone that I was able to recognize the con that had been pulled. I invited her to my house, paid for a rental car to travel around the country, paid for most of the food, alcohol, paid for gas, basically the only thing I didn’t pay for was her fucking ticket.

    I enjoy traveling and would have spent most of this money anyway. The thing that gets me is she had the audacity to complain and be a whiny bitch.

    We are on the way to camping on the beach, and she starts complaining about how she doesn’t want to camp on the beach. This was the plan that we had agreed to weeks ago.

    I paid for almost everything. I planned everything, brought her to the Grand Canyon, paid for some hotels, we went to Vegas (not because I wanted to), and etc.

    The thing that she knows I love most, camping, and she has the audacity to throw a hissy fit. Fuck you, stupid ungrateful cunt.

    I ignored her and we went to the beach. I set up the tent, aired up the mattress, had some wine, and that’s when the only thing she could muster was, “I’m sorry.”

    Saying “I’m sorry” for acting like a child is not enough, especially after everything I did for her.

    At the time all this happened I was too pussy whipped to consider how I was being played. I was happy she apologized and then I then I fucked her.

    A few months later I was traveling to France. I invited her to come see me. We chatted, and she was still jobless. She told me she couldn’t afford the flight. That was my line in the sand, I was not about to pay for her flight. Eventually she told me, I have the money for the flight, I can come.

    I asked her if she had gotten a job. “Nope.” she replied. I didn’t inquire about how she got the money to pay for the flight.

    There was only one stipulation, if you come visit me no smoking. She couldn’t do it. HAHA!!!

    Dumb bitch picked cigarettes. She tried to pin that stupid shit on me. Sent some 500 word essay about how I can’t accept her for who she is.

    2. Awareness
    a) A good friend of mine told me I should look into MGTOW after I told him the story above.

    I really believed that women could fall in love. Now I realize, that is not the case. I was a PUA because I looking for that woman who would be my best friend, support me when I was down, we would have amazing sex, and travel the world together.

    Right now there’s a sunken feeling in my stomach. It’s clear that the lie I have been holding onto all these years is never going to happen.

    I do recognize that life is better on my own. Logically everything makes sense, emotionally, I see a pretty lady, and I still feel, “Maybe she’s the one.”

    Another place that MGTOW has made me more aware is getting a vasectomy. For about 8 years I have been considering a vasectomy because I don’t want kids. I never found the drive to go get a vasectomy. I would tell myself, “I should wait until you fall in love to get that done.”

    Earlier this week I had my consolation, and for Christmas this year I will get a vasectomy. If a THOT ever comes to me and says, “I’m pregnant.” I get to say, “That’s some Jesus shit right there.”

    3. Who Am I
    I live for exploring national parks, dance, skiing, jujitsu, and finding the most serene corners of the earth.

    Hope this works for y'all.

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    Re: How do I know I am an addict?

    That's a lot better Mr. Fog.
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    Re: How do I know I am an addict?

    Quote Originally Posted by fog View Post
    1. Relationship history
    a) I have never had girlfriend. For the longest time a girlfriend is all I wanted. I studied and practiced PUA for about ten years now. My ideology was, adapt to the dating culture and when I find a good one, don’t fuck it up.

    The most recent gal was a lady I met in Finland. It was the greatest sex in my life. I invited her to come visit me in the US. She came for 5 weeks, after week one I realized it was a mistake. We fucked all the time, and that was great as long as the lights were off.

    Anytime the lights were on I was repulsed by her. She even expressed that she felt like I did not want her there. I wasn’t about to tell her that she was fatter than when I met her, I simply let the 5 weeks go by.

    It wasn’t until she was gone that I was able to recognize the con that had been pulled. I invited her to my house, paid for a rental car to travel around the country, paid for most of the food, alcohol, paid for gas, basically the only thing I didn’t pay for was her fucking ticket.

    I enjoy traveling and would have spent most of this money anyway. The thing that gets me is she had the audacity to complain and be a whiny bitch.

    We are on the way to camping on the beach, and she starts complaining about how she doesn’t want to camp on the beach. This was the plan that we had agreed to weeks ago.

    I paid for almost everything. I planned everything, brought her to the Grand Canyon, paid for some hotels, we went to Vegas (not because I wanted to), and etc.

    The thing that she knows I love most, camping, and she has the audacity to throw a hissy fit. Fuck you, stupid ungrateful cunt.

    I ignored her and we went to the beach. I set up the tent, aired up the mattress, had some wine, and that’s when the only thing she could muster was, “I’m sorry.”

    Saying “I’m sorry” for acting like a child is not enough, especially after everything I did for her.

    At the time all this happened I was too pussy whipped to consider how I was being played. I was happy she apologized and then I then I fucked her.

    A few months later I was traveling to France. I invited her to come see me. We chatted, and she was still jobless. She told me she couldn’t afford the flight. That was my line in the sand, I was not about to pay for her flight. Eventually she told me, I have the money for the flight, I can come.

    I asked her if she had gotten a job. “Nope.” she replied. I didn’t inquire about how she got the money to pay for the flight.

    There was only one stipulation, if you come visit me no smoking. She couldn’t do it. HAHA!!!

    Dumb bitch picked cigarettes. She tried to pin that stupid shit on me. Sent some 500 word essay about how I can’t accept her for who she is.

    2. Awareness
    a) A good friend of mine told me I should look into MGTOW after I told him the story above.

    I really believed that women could fall in love. Now I realize, that is not the case. I was a PUA because I looking for that woman who would be my best friend, support me when I was down, we would have amazing sex, and travel the world together.

    Right now there’s a sunken feeling in my stomach. It’s clear that the lie I have been holding onto all these years is never going to happen.

    I do recognize that life is better on my own. Logically everything makes sense, emotionally, I see a pretty lady, and I still feel, “Maybe she’s the one.”

    Another place that MGTOW has made me more aware is getting a vasectomy. For about 8 years I have been considering a vasectomy because I don’t want kids. I never found the drive to go get a vasectomy. I would tell myself, “I should wait until you fall in love to get that done.”

    Earlier this week I had my consolation, and for Christmas this year I will get a vasectomy. If a THOT ever comes to me and says, “I’m pregnant.” I get to say, “That’s some Jesus shit right there.”

    3. Who Am I
    I live for exploring national parks, dance, skiing, jujitsu, and finding the most serene corners of the earth.

    Hope this works for y'all.
    2nd and 3rd point could use a little more content. But you're looking a lot more legit now. Still an unfortunate choice of a username. People are bound to mistake you for frog and vice versa.

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    Re: How do I know I am an addict?

    3. “Who am I” Continued…

    Who I am is the entirety of my life experience, how I treat the people, the things and ideas I value, and all of my experience. Reflection and improvement are important to me. I internalize my life goals, my beliefs, and my experiences.

    I used to follow the golden rule, “Treat others as I want to be treated.” Until I realized the flaw in this reasoning. Person ‘a’ wants to be butt-fucked but that doesn’t mean person ‘a’ should go around butt-fucking everyone.

    Now I treat people how they treat me, unless they’re intolerable, in which case I walk away. If someone buys me a drink, I will buy them a drink. If a person tries to harm me, or persistently asks for something they have not earned I walk away.

    I value tranquility as a default life setting. To remain tranquil I need to use my energy and I need to feel accomplished. I choose extreme sports, these are skills that I develop and enjoy.

    I continuously remind myself is that one experience (or this short collection) is not who I am. This is only a short summary.


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