Thread: Welcome to the Ghostly Life!

As much as MGTOW is misunderstood by mainstream society, "Ghost" seems to be just as much misunderstood in the MGTOW community. We seem to be regarded as everything from a lunatic fringe of would-be off-the-grid survivalists to something like "32nd-Degree MGTOW" (if I may borrow the imagery from Freemasonry), to doom-and-gloom hermits and grumpy curmudgeons, to perpetual tourists staying off the radar of Big Daddy Government and Society-In-General. Well, any of those could be Ghosts - but none of them exemplify Ghosts, or explain the Ghost perspective.

As I see it, a Ghost values his freedom above all else. He is self-reliant, comfortable with solitude, content to go unnoticed, and capable of living a fulfilling life on his own. And his personal freedom is more important to him than social approval, status, or sexual companionship. On the whole, we're not "antisocial," but we're generally asocial, indifferent to Society and its expectations, rules, and roles.

This leaves a lot of room for personal characteristics - intentionally so. Some ghosts are hermits, living off-the-grid; some are city-dwellers, invisible within the faceless crowds. To borrow (not verbatim) from Kipling's "Tommy," we're neither "heroes" nor blackguards, but ordinary people - "most remarkably like you." It is true that we have a higher tolerance for solitude than most, and a lower tolerance of the BS that goes with socializing and especially with the current version of "the mating dance." We're not here to entertain, or to serve, or to be of utility to The Princess Class; we live on our own terms, as much as we can, and we won't be arsed to live up to the "Real Manhood" terms thrust upon all men by Society.

One thing I'd like to emphasize: "Ghosting," as I see it, is about living the Good Life - solo. It's about enjoying your solitary life and doing things that your entrapped brethren hardly dare dream of doing. I realize that a lot of "casualties of Society" are going to come here as well, to lick their wounds and nurse their pain; but I hope that enough of you will come to realize that the solitary life has its own great rewards, and that you'll find contentment and fulfillment in living life your own way, for your own sake, unplugged from the Matrix.

A big old thumbs up from the cheap seats.

Sorry I didn't put in my 2 cents (very busy the past few months including a great, long, solo trip to countries #44 and 45 on my visited countries list) but I don't think I could have improved on this. Hits the nail on the head.

Originally Posted by BeijaFlor

As I see it, a Ghost values his freedom above all else. He is self-reliant, comfortable with solitude, content to go unnoticed, and capable of living a fulfilling life on his own. And his personal freedom is more important to him than social approval, status, or sexual companionship. On the whole, we're not "antisocial," but we're generally asocial, indifferent to Society and its expectations, rules, and roles.

^^This exactly.

I'm still 'on-the-grid' when it comes to work too, and dont think that should be a requirement to be considered 'ghost'.

I'd like to put that in my signature...Thanks BeijaFlor, well put...

Some people will never understand the peace that is solitude. It has been a sanctuary for me most of my life. Sure, I like to get out and run my mouth at people sometimes, flirt with some hotties, and have conversations with SOME people but, dammit, I always know I have a way to reset, recharge, and relax as a default...And, I won't hesitate to shut off my phone, not answer the door, and cut people out if need be...

There was t-shirt a guy was wearing at a bar once that sticks out...On the back it read, Fuck You, I have enough friends...

Originally Posted by Chukhed

I'm still 'on-the-grid' when it comes to work too, and dont think that should be a requirement to be considered 'ghost'.

The only way any person can be 100% off the grid is if they have the skills of a Grizzly Adams.

I sure ain't no survivalist. I enjoy my electricity and indoor plumbing as much as the next guy. But I do partake in the ghostly way of life. In a way being a ghost is like being a spy. Where all doing our own thing in society and the average noob couldn't tell us apart from the blue-pill guy next to us. The only difference is that we're happier and likely in better shape.

All that being said, ghost on my brothers. Lets make this sub kick ass.

I've always been mgtow but i guess was never wise enough to realize how smart it is for a man to be as much of a ghost as possible, as soon as possible. I say as soon as possible because it's harder to ghost when you have put yourself in full sight of people in your past for any number of reasons, most of them egotistical in my case anyway

It's always wiser for a guy to fly under the radar especially these days. One thing i always kicked myself for is saying things and then realizing how much smarter it would have been if i had kept my dumb mouth shut. People will use everything you say, every visible act, and every ego gratifying grand standing you do to their advantage and it use against you at some point

Ghosting is less stressful, more peaceful and keeps you out of trouble. Mind your own business, live and let live will lead you faster to contentment than trying to make yourself be noticed, happy ghosting

btw i'll add sometimes you still have to speak your mind, tell the truth, but only because sometimes life gives you no choice

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt".

Or something like that.

So if I do care about status, power and male friends, what kind of MGTOW does that make me? I simply have no patience for the wymyn and I have no desire to learn "the game", after more than a decade of being an incel I just say pussy ain't worth shit, which is why it costs only 25€ to fuck one without all the hassle that would be involved with the dating/clubbing/whatever shit.

Originally Posted by do not disturb

I've always been mgtow but i guess was never wise enough to realize how smart it is for a man to be as much of a ghost as possible, as soon as possible. I say as soon as possible because it's harder to ghost when you have put yourself in full sight of people in your past for any number of reasons, most of them egotistical in my case anyway

It's always wiser for a guy to fly under the radar especially these days. One thing i always kicked myself for is saying things and then realizing how much smarter it would have been if i had kept my dumb mouth shut. People will use everything you say, every visible act, and every ego gratifying grand standing you do to their advantage and it use against you at some point

Ghosting is less stressful, more peaceful and keeps you out of trouble. Mind your own business, live and let live will lead you faster to contentment than trying to make yourself be noticed, happy ghosting

I was just thinking about this exact thing today - keeping my mouth shut. Which I've always been really bad at. A lot of the time people don't even realize they want to sabotage you until after they've done it. Not keeping my mouth shut just gives them fuel to create an artificial caricature of me. Unfortunately the act of being open is a bad idea now (for men). I've learned that everyone seems to want someone lower on the pecking order to talk shit about behind that person's back.

Well, looks like I'm no longer a neutral. The ghostly way of life as presented by BeijaFlor seems a lot like me and I really have no intentions of going back to neutral. Let's just leave bachelor out of the discussion, I really don't fit in with that rule/mind set and have ABSOLUTELY no intentions of going there (no disrespect to bachelors reading this).

Role on fellow ghosters!

Originally Posted by BeijaFlor

As much as MGTOW is misunderstood by mainstream society, "Ghost" seems to be just as much misunderstood in the MGTOW community. We seem to be regarded as everything from a lunatic fringe of would-be off-the-grid survivalists to something like "32nd-Degree MGTOW" (if I may borrow the imagery from Freemasonry), to doom-and-gloom hermits and grumpy curmudgeons, to perpetual tourists staying off the radar of Big Daddy Government and Society-In-General. Well, any of those could be Ghosts - but none of them exemplify Ghosts, or explain the Ghost perspective.

As I see it, a Ghost values his freedom above all else. He is self-reliant, comfortable with solitude, content to go unnoticed, and capable of living a fulfilling life on his own. And his personal freedom is more important to him than social approval, status, or sexual companionship. On the whole, we're not "antisocial," but we're generally asocial, indifferent to Society and its expectations, rules, and roles.

This leaves a lot of room for personal characteristics - intentionally so. Some ghosts are hermits, living off-the-grid; some are city-dwellers, invisible within the faceless crowds. To borrow (not verbatim) from Kipling's "Tommy," we're neither "heroes" nor blackguards, but ordinary people - "most remarkably like you." It is true that we have a higher tolerance for solitude than most, and a lower tolerance of the BS that goes with socializing and especially with the current version of "the mating dance." We're not here to entertain, or to serve, or to be of utility to The Princess Class; we live on our own terms, as much as we can, and we won't be arsed to live up to the "Real Manhood" terms thrust upon all men by Society.

One thing I'd like to emphasize: "Ghosting," as I see it, is about living the Good Life - solo. It's about enjoying your solitary life and doing things that your entrapped brethren hardly dare dream of doing. I realize that a lot of "casualties of Society" are going to come here as well, to lick their wounds and nurse their pain; but I hope that enough of you will come to realize that the solitary life has its own great rewards, and that you'll find contentment and fulfillment in living life your own way, for your own sake, unplugged from the Matrix.

Quite right.

Originally Posted by Shrug the Script

The only way any person can be 100% off the grid is if they have the skills of a Grizzly Adams.

Being 100% off the grid would essentially mean homelessness without public assistence.

If a MGHOW decides to settle for that type of existence, who am I to tell him he's wrong?

Is a Monk wrong for meditating on the top of a mountain?

Doesnt seem very productive though.

When I manage to unf**k myself, I will try and go off the grid with solar power & my own water tower & water filtration. 2 1/4 acres, half-wooded, half-not. The half-not has substantial perennial gardens & orchards. I also have the means and the skills to defend it.

Originally Posted by rangerone314

When I manage to unf**k myself, I will try and go off the grid with solar power & my own water tower & water filtration. 2 1/4 acres, half-wooded, half-not. The half-not has substantial perennial gardens & orchards. I also have the means and the skills to defend it.

Rangerone, please run, not walk, over to the forum called New Member Intros and read the Sticky called How to Intro, then post a comprehensive Intro there for us to read. Everyone who is new here must do it, and we all did one, and it helps us know more about you. If you don't make one but keep posting comments, a Moderator will contact you about it.

Looking forward to your Intro. Thanks.

I think I would linger more on the ghost side of the spectrum. I am able to blend in well with the blue-pilled world but am introverted by nature. I do like some companionship as far as being around people but not all the time. I'm not sure if that makes me only a partial ghost or not.

I'd say I like to be alone 70% of the time and maybe 30% with people. The only people I want to be around though are my closest family as I don't really like acquaintances much.

Going out to dinner is not something I really like to do much either. I'd much rather buy some good food and eat it at home than go out to dinner. I just don't like being around people too much.

For work, I think that "ghosting in plain sight" is a must. I think that mentioning any controversial views is a waste of time and only puts you on the radar unnecessarily. Don't waste your time discussing politics and religion. There is no point in doing that when there are places like human resources that allow women to get you in trouble with nothing more than an allegation.

There is a time to fight but only when it is a fight you know you can win. Do not waste your time getting involved with trivial matters.

Ghost on brothers!