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    Re: Does anyone have trouble ghosting in plain sight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    It is just harder for me to care more about what people think. I even find myself talking to myself quite a bit more. My father does it and I have started to do it too. No I don't think there is anyone talking back. No I don't hear voices. It is a way for me to just compartmentalize my thoughts and see how they sound out loud. The problem is that I tend to care less and less what people think and have found myself talking to myself out in public. In places at Walmart, I would find myself getting mad and the dumbest stuff and voicing in kind of loud. Once I have really accepted the fact that most people are shit, I find myself having a great disdain for these sheep. I find myself not worrying what people think and sometimes show my anger a bit more than I used to. There are people who are even being nice or polite and I find myself angry at them sometimes.

    Anyways, I hope this makes a bit of sense.
    Yes, I can see it since I do it too even vocalising the internal dialogue. I'd like to think that at least I get a sensible conversation that way but oft-times my mind doesn't agree and still wants to vere-off into creative ifs, buts and maybe's.

    Some MGTOW report that in accepting things how they are (rather than how we wished they were) due to having discussed the nature of the beast, accepted it and thereby tamed it somewhat, they get to 'shrug the monkey off their back' and I have a theory that they lose the 10,000 yard stare that we can all develope and smile at life a bit more and that is why (in my theory) that many MGTOW report that they seem to become attractive to not only the usual suspects but to ordinary folks who would've been put-off by the previous demeanour from even saying "hello".

    In an older extinct forum I posted that thanks to MGTOW and realising that I wasn't so alone and that "its not me, its them but I play a part in that" that "I was no longer at war" because thats what everyday had felt like.

    Anyway, I still got sucker-punched but at least a small bit of the world was a bit friendlier but one such punch was getting accidentally diagnosed with hypertension which was me being at war with myself dues to basically not getting enough good nutrition. A change of diet to a more nutritious one (and less alcohol) made another biiiiig difference to the old 'internal peace conference'.

    I reckon that folks can play a much bigger part in our own suffering than we give ourselves credit for.

    Check-out everybody elses demeanours and '10,000 yard stares' and I bet the majority look like they're suffering, just about still game or pretending.

    When I see them I feel a bit joyful and thats not to delight in their suffering or shadenfreud but to know that at least we sussed-out the script a bit and can conduct ourselves away from that shit.

    I'm not trying to say that any of this is so in your or anyone elses case but just that I've been there in the past and in retrospect I didn't have to go far to look my enemy and the source of whats wrong with the in the eye.

    All I had to do was look in the mirror.
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    Re: Does anyone have trouble ghosting in plain sight?

    +AdTheBad...
    That was a very insightful and thought-provoking post. Thanks for sharing it. I'm glad I'm not the only one who voices their internal monologue out loud.
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    Re: Does anyone have trouble ghosting in plain sight?

    I am glad others brought this up but ghosting doesn't mean you avoid confrontation all the time. It just means you are more selective when to engage and disengage with the world and the people around you.

    When to engage people and when not to is a social nuance and requires a calibration of those social senses. It requires practice, patience, and as it has been said a bit of stoicism. Throw in some cynicism and also a positive attitude and that is a recipe for success. Self confidence in that you can tackle the world on your own terms along is very liberating as a ghost.

    It is hardest to ghost when family is critical of all the choices you make in your life. But if you reveal your thoughts to these family members as it has been said they will actually become more belligerent. And with your thinking process these family members will more often attack these ideas as foreign, unconventional or not normal. Basically, some family members are looking to start a fight because they see your contentment and happiness and can not comprehend how you are able to have that without following the formula they have been indoctrinated with.

    I avoid confrontation with family members trying to put down my self esteem and telling me how to live my life. But if they insist on attacking me personally, yeah I will defend myself. I prefer not to have arguments with family but if they insist on a fight of the intellectual mind, body and spirit so be it. That is one fight they can not win against a ghost that has a love of life, freedom and peace.

    Living your way of life the way you want is the great equalizer. Over time you can tell who is pulling ahead in life and who has fallen behind. I have witnessed this in my own family where those heavily critical of my approach to life are now grasping for life preservers due to poor financial planning.

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    Re: Does anyone have trouble ghosting in plain sight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    I am glad others brought this up but ghosting doesn't mean you avoid confrontation all the time. It just means you are more selective when to engage and disengage with the world and the people around you.
    I guess it is a question of picking one's battles. Is this person even worth trying to convince or argue with? I am often conflicted with not trying to change someone's mind with an idea versus being extremely vocal and defending my own ideas. I think that ghosting in plain sight is really a survival strategy at the end of the day. Sometimes it is stifling for me to do so because I would love to just be myself in front of anyone but unfortunately, reality makes that impossible.
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    Re: Does anyone have trouble ghosting in plain sight?

    One word: poise

    Go through life with poise. And for bonus points, remember that fashion is the armor of today.

    For instance I've started adding more blue-pill bling and rainbows to my wardrobe because in this neighborhood, that look will get you farther than trying to "blend in" with older straight white men. And when I know I'll be someplace surrounded by older straight white men, I'll tone it down and dress like them. Be a chameleon.

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    Re: Does anyone have trouble ghosting in plain sight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    Good afternoon my friendly ghosts,

    I have been having a struggle as of late. I am feeling an increasing frustration with seeing things wrong with the world around me and not saying anything. I am finding it difficult to turn a blind eye sometimes when I hear someone say, "We need more socialism so these people can get a living wage." It pisses me off and I find myself getting more and more vocal in giving my very detailed opinion in these matters. As a white-collar worker, this can be very bad if you even hint that you are not a content worker drone.

    Without divulging the details I almost went too far today when I stood up for myself and someone jokingly mentioned "HR" as if they would report me to it (just a joke man). A joke? In 2019? The year of #me-too? You make a joke like this and you don't know why that would piss me off? "Just a joke man. You're too sensitive." I almost got stung today by the blue-pilled world and it is a reminder on why I keep my cards to my chest and ghost in the first place. It is just getting hard sometimes to keep my mouth shut and pretend to be a zombie all day.

    Does anyone here have any mental practices to enter the matrix as a ghost from day-to-day? Maybe any sort of meditation techniques?

    Does anyone have any advice on how to maintain an indifferent attitude even though you hear opinions you disagree with?

    Any thoughts or ideas are always welcome and I look forward to your guys' response.

    Cheers,




    Bonobo
    I wanted to point out something that may have been overlooked with the guy that threatened you with H.R.

    It's just that you said it was said in a joking manner. I would like to suggest, without knowing the full extent of the conversation I hasten to add, that maybe this guy was trying to give you a friendly warning. You imply that you were angry and simply had to react. Maybe the guy was trying to warn you to calm down in his own possibly inept way because he didn't want to see you get into trouble. Just a thought.


    I've been offline for a few days due to a visit from my brother. He's very blue-pill but at least open to discussion, but even with him, someone I've known all my life, I still have to be careful when speaking of such matters because I don't want him to believe I can't have a conversation without bringing women and gynocracy into it for fear of him just tuning out.

    Sometimes people talk such shit that the natural impulse is to immediately jump in and point it out in no uncertain terms. However with a bit of practice you can teach yourself other methods to combat these people. Instead of jumping in with a naturally aggressive response, these days I take a breath and ask them: "Sorry, I must have missed something, can you explain that to me?" or some such question.
    Now they usually have a seemingly reasonable answer for this view, but it's only on the surface - they rarely have thought the whole thing through. After a few more questions they usually back off caught in a nightmare of their own (il)logic.

    Now I don't know if this benefits me over the long term. Some people take umbrage for pointing out their lack, but some come back and want to talk more on the subject.


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