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    Questions for Ghosts

    So I haven’t made many posts outside of my intro and some replies to introductions, but I figure I’ll ask my fellow ghosts about their experiences, structured in no particular order.

    I. Other People
    I know (read: think) MGTOW is about not defining yourself through women, and by extension Ghosting is not defining yourself through any social imperatives or pressures. So I ask, what have been your experiences with other people since making a conscious decision to go MGTOW? How about Ghosting in particular? Do you engage with other people regularly, or have you gone completely ghost on even friendship? Do you keep online contacts through gaming, or close friends from earlier in life? Personally, I do the latter, and the occasional lunch with coworkers.

    II. Yourself
    I realise now that my transition to a ghost’s life is not complete, since this is the second heading I’ve made, and to a ghost, they are their sole and primary commitment. I can change this as I type it with a simple copy-paste, but to me that would seem like professing to know something I do not. Now the actual questions: What are your hobbies/pursuits/goals? To what extent have you noticed a change in your progress and attainment in these endeavours since your “evolution” (if I may be so presumptuous) to MGTOW/ghosting? As a follow up, if you started MGTOW and went ghost, what additional differences have you seen between those states?

    III. Finance
    Here’s a pretty big one for me, since I’m 22 and in the rat race. How important to you are your own material conditions? Without delving to an extent you’re uncomfortable, would you say you are doing well (can be as simple as your federal tax bracket)? What financial assets would you consider to be the most valuable, assets not necessarily meaning physical items, but investments, CD’s, 401k and other things of the like? Do you make all of your money through wages, or do you generate passive income through property or investment? Do you own your own business (follow ups will be more specifically tuned)? Do you own or have plans to own a home/condo? Why or why not? Would college be recommended for someone of slightly above average intelligence (take my word, ofc everyone thinks the same thing of their intelligence lol), if they could go without any debt (4-6 years) or with a minimum (masters or PhD level)?

    IV. Personal
    How do you feel you best serve yourself, positive or negative self-reinforcement? To what extent (a percentage would do) would you say the issues in your life are either self-inflicted or unavoidable? Would you say you have reached a satisfactory level of attainment for your goals? If not, why? Finally, for what reason did you begin ghosting, and how satisfied would you say you are with having made that choice?

    I know it’s a lot, but if failure is the mother of success, then the lived experience of others is the older brother, and I’d like to ask you brothers to contribute what you can. I’ll be happy to answer questions in return.

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    Re: Questions for Ghosts

    I found this in moderation bucket and am bumping it to be seen.
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
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    Re: Questions for Ghosts

    1. Ghost

    My "ghosting" is directed at any and all "intimate" relationshits with women. I'm well rounded and personable with everyone regardless of sex, creed, or color. Once a woman makes any hint of a relationshit I ghost! My position is not up to debate, modification, or change, I'm cemented solid in my decision to remain single and free.

    2. Aspirations, hobbies, and the necessity to remain single.

    I educate myself in all things that spark my interest or are a necessity to the task at hand. My hobbies are multiple that include auto and motorcycle restorations, construction, RC aircraft, AME Skiing, fertilizer mixing and developing, and few other things. Relationships are too much a drain on my mental, physical, and financial resources, and that's on a good day!

    3. Financial, ups and downs.
    Being self sufficient, self employed, self responsible, life's road has had many twists, turns, ups, and downs. The only purpose modern women have is to latch on during prosperous times then discard during any troubling times, they're dead weight that only tosses me about and causes havoc all the time, they're disruptive to the path on my life's journey, they cause unnecessary hardships, misery, and suffering.

    4. I took off like a fucking skyrocket the day I cut women out of my life! I would likely have committed suicide had I stayed on the plantation. I was like a slave that decided to RUN and NEVER LOOKED BACK!
    I found modern women are a disease to my spirit! A sickness to my health! Mental thorns to my mind! Keep em! I don't want them!

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    Re: Questions for Ghosts

    Excellent questions!

    1) As for other people, I have learned that the best thing is to set boundaries. Information is social power. Be the blank page in social settings. The less they know, the better. It can get awkward when others share information and expect reciprocation. The best response in lieu of sharing is to ask follow up questions to their information. Flattery can make people forgetful that do not know anything about you.

    In case of interrogation, you have a few options. Humility goes a long way to confounding the inquisitors: in this age of personal aggrandizement, they do not know how interpret it. If the inquisitors prove aggressive, you can tell them that information will not shared in this setting as it is not relevant. If they are offended (and you are feeling kind) you can explain your position on boundaries. This will get the rumor mill going, but as a ghost you are not bothered by that crap.

    2) With regards to myself, I have a different view on ghosting. I see ghosting as not leaving society completely, but rather limiting how society impacts my personal life: I go my own way. I will not abrogate responsibility to my family or true friends (which is an astonishing small number.) I do my best to honor and respect myself. This means choosing how I interact with society and what I value. Ghosting has allowed me to distance myself from society to discover what I truly need, want and value. This is the real value in ghosting.

    The greatest benefit I have received from ghosting is a sense of tranquility, security and joy. By distancing myself from society, I am no longer exposed to the mass-insecurity that is meant to make one anxious to improve their personal lot. Here is a little experiment for you: go one week without a single mainstream media news source, social media and all forms of gossip. Go cold turkey. You will be amazed at how nervous you are that you might be missing something. Towards the end of the week, you will realize that you are not missing anything of importance. You will hear people talk about issues that have very little to do with them, or are things that they can do very little about. You will discover that the only thing you are really missing is anxiety that is purposely being caused by the mass media insecurity.

    As your tranquility increases, so will your sense of contentment and well being. With this will come a clear recognition of how few your needs are and how easily they can be met. However, these states of being are detrimental to a consumer society that depends on anxious consumption. And that is where my personal joy comes in: I do get a kick out of being a subversive element.

    So, for my hobbies and interests, I enjoy: self-sufficiency, minimalism, outdoor activities, crafts and skills. Ghosting gives one the freedom to go deeply in whatever direction suits your fancy. Freed from the pointless social standing competition, you are free to invest in yourself, which brings me to the third point.

    3) Paper investments are nice when others believe that paper investments have value. When that belief fails, then all you have is toilet paper, which will be in short supply anyway. Invest in yourself. Seek education in applicable skills, find places and venues that will let you have unique experiences. When you can take care of yourself in nearly every circumstance, you will have real freedom.

    4) As you may have guessed by now, everything mentioned above is about personal development, not the social indoctrination of engineered values that everyone receives in their youth. I have found that Stoicism is a most conducive philosophy for my ghosting efforts. I will not launch into a explanation of why, but I would encourage you to read up on Stoicism yourself. (See point 3.) I believe it will answer most of section 4.

    I started ghosting for one simple reason. Once I realized that I was being trained to be nothing more than an exploitable resource, I started searching for reasons. The only reason I found that explained the exploitation was brutal: solely for the benefit of others. I had no value, voice or agency in this society. Withdrawing was the only viable counter. Complete withdrawal is possible, but I do not want to go completely off grid yet. There are still some things to learn. But I will never willingly contribute to a society that damns me for being an individual of personal value.

    And that is why I go my own way.

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    Re: Questions for Ghosts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    4) As you may have guessed by now, everything mentioned above is about personal development, not the social indoctrination of engineered values that everyone receives in their youth. I have found that Stoicism is a most conducive philosophy for my ghosting efforts. I will not launch into a explanation of why, but I would encourage you to read up on Stoicism yourself. (See point 3.) I believe it will answer most of section 4.

    I started ghosting for one simple reason. Once I realized that I was being trained to be nothing more than an exploitable resource, I started searching for reasons. The only reason I found that explained the exploitation was brutal: solely for the benefit of others. I had no value, voice or agency in this society. Withdrawing was the only viable counter. Complete withdrawal is possible, but I do not want to go completely off grid yet. There are still some things to learn. But I will never willingly contribute to a society that damns me for being an individual of personal value.

    And that is why I go my own way.
    I have a copy of The Meditations that I haven’t finished for all the things I fooled myself into thinking were of the utmost importance. I just deleted Instagram, which was the last holdout after having deleted all of my other digital footprints. I do agree with your points on social media and news being designed to have us engage pointlessly with things that have little to do with us.

    My reason for the financial questions is essentially geared toward freeing my time sufficiently enough to deal with me and my own goals, rather than having my energy extracted by a labour-hungry machine. The old adage of “chasing your dreams or working toward someone else’s” has never rang truer in my ears. I do suppose some minimalism is in order, so I can better serve myself after having reduced the amount of complexities I “need” to deal with.

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    Re: Questions for Ghosts

    As a blue collar puke you have some choice over what sort of gig you want, and how much effort it may take to accomplish that job. But once you accept the position your accepting whatever responsibility's and freedoms that come with il. Some jobs require you to work overtime, while other employers don't offer any at all. If your thinking about working less somewhere down the road you need to pick your career carefully. Most jobs worth a damn want you to be there at least 40 hours a week. Not many employees are keen on less either. Anyway, a part time gig might not be that easy for a lot a jobs.

    Having never been married, I should be rolling in dough. I'm doing ok, but not that great. You can still piss off a lot of money, rather you got a woman helping or not. My observation is those who have more money don't always spend it wisely.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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