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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Let me give a further caveat. I have seen way too many men go to Asia and meet a good looking girl that is totally inappropriate for anything but pump and dump (and give a false name while you do it.) These girls treat them nice, because that is the cultural expectation of women in these places. Coming from the US this is usually the first woman that has ever treated them decently as a human being. They think this is rare and will never happen again. The guy goes nuts and marries the girl (usually a part time or full time hooker). I have had to talk down several guys from this, sometimes without success. Asia is not a cure all. Women are women everywhere, and it is definitely buyer beware.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Why do men marry ugly women?
    They all turn ugly after you marry them.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Who's to say whats ugly?
    I've known women who wouldn't turn a head from the 'in' crowd and would be laughed out of fashionista fairytales, out of style and proportion but glowing with self confidence, emotional balance and grounded in reality, beautiful to behold in the passing moment, for a moment, but passing, mention the realms of mammon and its gone awalt. But the most beautiful women I've ever met have been 'ugly'.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberdude View Post
    They all turn ugly after you marry them.
    It's an allergy to gold, put a ring on and they swell up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairborne View Post
    It's an allergy to gold, put a ring on and they swell up.
    I thought it was wedding cake that made her gain 50 pounds and reduced her sex drive by 90% or more.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdTheBad View Post
    Who's to say whats ugly?
    I've known women who wouldn't turn a head from the 'in' crowd and would be laughed out of fashionista fairytales, out of style and proportion but glowing with self confidence, emotional balance and grounded in reality, beautiful to behold in the passing moment, for a moment, but passing, mention the realms of mammon and its gone awalt. But the most beautiful women I've ever met have been 'ugly'.
    there are endless scientific studies demonstrating that beauty is a signal of genetic fitness. It is no coincidence that we are attracted to simmetry and fit body, and want to puke when we see a fat deformed woman.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherJ View Post
    darkgenius: The key is the sense of self worth. All of the pretty girls and socially successful jock guys in high school turn out to be the worst kind of people as adults. They peaked too early. They declared themselves winners in high school and decades later still define themselves according to those "winning qualities," even though they are incredibly childish.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chairborne View Post
    It's an allergy to gold, put a ring on and they swell up.
    Doesn't happen that way in Eastern Europe: girls are still, thankfully, shamed into looking fit, and hopefully it remains like this; it's only socially acceptable after you had a disease that made you fat (very rare, knew only one person like this) or if you are over 55 years old.

    darkgenius: The key is the sense of self worth. All of the pretty girls and socially successful jock guys in high school turn out to be the worst kind of people as adults. They peaked too early. They declared themselves winners in high school and decades later still define themselves according to those "winning qualities," even though they are incredibly childish.
    I was a jock too, and a big one, since I occupied a position as a lock in the rugby team, and since everyone went that time at the rugby club's restaurant overseeing the field, and they could watch the games and the training easily from there. Back then I was the only lock because of the coach, and although chances of scoring were rare, things got pretty violent on the field from my side because you job as a lock is to do anything (within the rules) to stop an advance, especially if the opposing team has the ball. Sometimes people cheering on the terrace of the restaurant could be heard whenever I slammed a guy in the grass and he lost the ball (amateurs always get passes wrong) or tackled him. I was visibly built and with very wide shoulders, one of the reasons I was a lock, because I had high chances of succeeding tackles without having to move my elbows away from my body.
    I must have been an exception of an exception, because I was no champion with women in high school (lel, not even close, never dated or had one night stands with ANYONE), but the other guys in the team did. Even to this day I still can't answer myself "Why did absolutely nothing happen?"
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by VLazarusC View Post
    Even to this day I still can't answer myself "Why did absolutely nothing happen?"
    Maybe the girls detected brains and got scared.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    This might be worth exploring further.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Men marry ugly women because they cannot perceive their own self-worth.

    They will also marry them if the ugly women is brutally self-honest and realizes HER self-worth, so she feeds his ego to keep him around. [seen it happen many many times]
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    Jimmy Soul put this one on the top of the Billboard 100 in 1963 ... could be where your boatmate got the philosophy.



    How times have changed! Now the uglies are Princesses, too.

    My last USA girlfriend experience was in 1986. She was pudgy, but she wasn't near the tonnage of current landwhales.
    I've heard a rap version of this too...
    "you wanna be happy for the rest of your life... then find an ugly woman, and make her your wife...".. I forget who does it though..
    my best guess is that the less "attractive" a woman is, the less likely she's going to cheat...
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Maybe the girls detected brains and got scared.
    Yes Lazarus if the girl sees that you are thinker and her bullshit wont go far she bails .

    I have been told this by ladies themselves . Its not interesting for them , they need a silly mouse to play their cat games .

    Every relationship with a woman is a game - its never straight forward , it is never honest .

    It is never fair . Ever .


    PS. You being a crappy lock didnt help either tee hee !
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    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Same reason they marry fat women. Some men believe fat and ugly women are so rejected, they will compensate by loving them more since they can't get as many men as attractive women. It is the path of least resistance to most men. Sadly, they don't know enough about female nature to realize ugly women are WORSE than attractive women and they have huge chips on their shoulders because they a) can't get as many men as attractive women, b) they had to settle for a thirsty beta.

    Understand this: fat and ugly women absolutely believe they're worth as much as attractive women.
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    I'm sure you all noticed the porn category BBW. There are just some men who are turned on by that. If some men are turned on by other men how much of a stretch is to be attracted to fat women. To each their own

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Too many of the high school beauties on my facebook are now fat and/or ugly. In their 40s. Most of their husbands have grey hair. I don't have grey. There are only some girls that are still pretty.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    The uglyfication of all of us is a fact of natural selection. When you're young, you're at your peak of attractiveness as far as the other gender is concerned. If a woman chooses to spend that as a fat, ugly person, that's their choice. Same with a guy. Each of us has the choice to improve ourselves. I remember this one gal. She was in her early 30's and weighed a ton. Well, maybe not a ton, but she was up there. Anyway, she and her longtime boyfriend broke up and she dropped out of sight for a year or so. The next time I saw her she had lost a great deal of weight, fixed herself up and looked pretty good. I thought about asking her out, but all I could think of was that chances were that as soon as she settled in the weight would come back on. So I passed.

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    I can understand fucking a hippocrocapig when you are young and horny and you just want to empty your balls; but seriously why would an intelligent man choose to settle down with one of these wenches and dedicate his life to her.

    I think it’s a combination of them being scared to be alone with their own thoughts in this big old world and not having the diligence to go against the grain.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    I can understand fucking a hippocrocapig when you are young and horny and you just want to empty your balls; but seriously why would an intelligent man choose to settle down with one of these wenches and dedicate his life to her.

    I think it’s a combination of them being scared to be alone with their own thoughts in this big old world and not having the diligence to go against the grain.
    Exactolutely, Patrick. Most of us are afraid to be alone, afraid to be "othered," afraid to stand out in the crowd. Part of that may stem from our origins (proto-human hunting apes that lived in packs, like chimpanzees) ... even more of it is marketed to us by popular culture, from stories to fairy-tales to movies to songs like this ...



    We are taught to fear being alone, just as we're taught to fear strangers and to distrust and even hate those who are different; by that, we are taught to fear "being different," ourselves. We are inculcated with the attitude "to get along, go along," and fed the kool-aid about "the meaning of life is to marry and have kids so they'll marry and have kids, ad infinitum" ... which is correct for species-survival, but we practice it at the cost of the individual.

    I believe that's why it takes a special man to Go His Own Way, a man who's strong enough to stand alone.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    Exactolutely, Patrick. Most of us are afraid to be alone, afraid to be "othered," afraid to stand out in the crowd. Part of that may stem from our origins (proto-human hunting apes that lived in packs, like chimpanzees) ... even more of it is marketed to us by popular culture, from stories to fairy-tales to movies to songs like this ...



    We are taught to fear being alone, just as we're taught to fear strangers and to distrust and even hate those who are different; by that, we are taught to fear "being different," ourselves. We are inculcated with the attitude "to get along, go along," and fed the kool-aid about "the meaning of life is to marry and have kids so they'll marry and have kids, ad infinitum" ... which is correct for species-survival, but we practice it at the cost of the individual.

    I believe that's why it takes a special man to Go His Own Way, a man who's strong enough to stand alone.
    Is our species even worthy of continuation? I'm not misanthropic, but I don't see a whole lot of worth in humanity as a whole. The popular sentence "emotions are what makes us human" is the most obnoxious crap people say, emotions aren't specifically human, even animals feel emotions. Maybe not in such a great variety, but in my opinion emotions are what makes us inferior. Reason is the only thing that makes us ACTUALLY superior towards animals and has put us on top of the foodchain. It's going to be interesting how nanotechnology and neuroscience will shape the world in the following decades, though my expectations aren't all that high.
    For the stoics, reason was "God". Today it appears as if emotions are "God". To me, that is a regression.


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