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    Why do men marry ugly women?

    So i'm 27, and all the people around me are starting to get married.

    Girls who were "cute" at 19 but now their looks are quickly fading, getting very fat and ugly as time goes by are marrying decent good looking, smart, hard working men. How can they fall into that trap? Can't they see their love will quickly become an ugly fat good for nothing piece of shit?

    Also a lot of my former classmates are marrying ugly women, it just baffles me, why marry the cow when you can get the milk for free? also as we men are becoming older we are getting more options and our value is increasing exponentially, why settle now for a fat whale?

    I'm very good looking, and I had my vasectomy at 25, a lot of good looking girls want to marry me, but i decided to go my own way... settling for an ugly woman (who also is ignorant), i just don't understand, i would rather be alone, celibate and live in a mountain rather than do that shit!!!

    Are they weak men who are too scared to be alone, that they rather violate themselves and hide under the skirts of an ugly monster and live a miserable life? that weak really?

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    If you're going to settle down, it's better to settle down with a chick who grew up ugly and ridiculed, but who also turned out smart. It's a better deal for you when her self worth isn't mulitplied by memories of high school glory. Just don't marry her.
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    Long, long ago, in a galaxy far away, I was serving on a submarine with a torpedo man that had the philosophy that if you wanted a happy life make a fat ugly woman your wife. He lived what he preached. His assertion was that fat ugly women would be faithful, appreciative, and give sex on demand because they were glad to get any guy.

    All of this was back when fat ugly women were a small minority, not the vast majority, of women. Also it was before the self esteem movement spent 20 years telling all the fat ugly women how great they were. Now the fat ugly women are just as full of themselves as the few remaining thin beautiful women, maybe even more so since they have to self agrandize because they get little reinforcement from men.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    BrotherJ I don't follow your logic. You prefer to marry an ugly women with low self worth but smart? why would you want to do that?
    How about just be alone, make a lot of money, live the good life, fuck pretty women, have smart friends etc...

    Mikediver.. what???!! i don't know about you, but i can't have an erection with ugly and fat women, that's like having sex with a man (if you are straight), just disgusting, you can't cheat your genes, if a man needs a fat ugly whale to be happy then something it's very wrong with the person, you can always buy a dog if you want loyalty and comprehension, heck even a tarantula is better company!

    So empirically i see this happening, but i just can't understand the real reason behind.... a man might try to make up a story on why he does it, but the reasons might be actually quite different, i think it's a very low self worth and a heart full of fear

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    It is the promise of company, of emotional support, of stability and ease of mind, of shared passion and interests -- no shabby things. But it never works out, as we all know. Men who do this are some of the most well-meaning and warm-hearted folk around: they sacrifice a lot for the possibility of a happy future with someone who they know is lacking very important traits which are key to sexual attraction. What they get in return is endless misery.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Problem is that today even the fat and ugly ones believe they are hot and are 9's and 10's

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    IMO, its what happens when real life meets experience for Blue Pill men.

    You'll notice how most every man's story of female contact here is the same. The difference in us being here versus the other 90% of dudes , is that we understood the cycle enough to escape.

    For the 90%, however, they end up chasing the hot girls and get burned like a Russian sailor in charge of a sub reactor. When those guys express frustration about getting shafted by hot girls, the family/parents/friends basically say 'marry an uglier girl'. Pop culture also reinforces this trope -cue Rom Com showing the hot girl acting like a cold bitch while the homely friend in the background gets the guy at the end .

    Most guys look at an ugly girl and think "at least she won't fuck my brother or key my car. So why not."

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    Long, long ago, in a galaxy far away, I was serving on a submarine with a torpedo man that had the philosophy that if you wanted a happy life make a fat ugly woman your wife. He lived what he preached. His assertion was that fat ugly women would be faithful, appreciative, and give sex on demand because they were glad to get any guy.

    All of this was back when fat ugly women were a small minority, not the vast majority, of women. Also it was before the self esteem movement spent 20 years telling all the fat ugly women how great they were. Now the fat ugly women are just as full of themselves as the few remaining thin beautiful women, maybe even more so since they have to self agrandize because they get little reinforcement from men.
    Jimmy Soul put this one on the top of the Billboard 100 in 1963 ... could be where your boatmate got the philosophy.



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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    My experience is that men who can't get any, take what they can take. This is especially true of the guy who is unlucky in love. Some woman gvies him the time of day, and he jumps on it.

    I have seen women do the same thing. If they have below average looks, the keep lowering their standards. Until they get a guy. Any guy.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    Long, long ago, in a galaxy far away, I was serving on a submarine with a torpedo man that had the philosophy that if you wanted a happy life make a fat ugly woman your wife. He lived what he preached. His assertion was that fat ugly women would be faithful, appreciative, and give sex on demand because they were glad to get any guy.

    All of this was back when fat ugly women were a small minority, not the vast majority, of women. Also it was before the self esteem movement spent 20 years telling all the fat ugly women how great they were. Now the fat ugly women are just as full of themselves as the few remaining thin beautiful women, maybe even more so since they have to self agrandize because they get little reinforcement from men.
    Edit: BeijaFlor beat me to the vid.

    Yeah, that strategy might have worked 50 years ago.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    Jimmy Soul put this one on the top of the Billboard 100 in 1963 ... could be where your boatmate got the philosophy.



    How times have changed! Now the uglies are Princesses, too.

    My last USA girlfriend experience was in 1986. She was pudgy, but she wasn't near the tonnage of current landwhales.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chairborne View Post
    Edit: BeijaFlor beat me to the vid.

    Yeah, that strategy might have worked 50 years ago.
    A lot of military men seem to be married to hambeasts, more so than average. Still didn't mean they didn't get divorced.

    Well fat women were a minority 50 years ago. Nowadays men in Australia are getting Asian girls as girlfriends. In my city which is overwhelming majority White, most under 30 couples are White man/Asian woman. Considering most Asian women are thin, there is no excuse for marrying fat, maybe ugly, but not FAT!
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    My 2 cents worth...

    1. The great majority of men, leading their lives in quiet desperation, simply are not aware of their own value - either socially, sexually or in marriage.

    2. Mainstream culture has pedestalized teh wimminz as a means of browbeating the men, referenced above, into accepting the first hambeast or warpig that shows interest in them by making them feel as though they should be honored.

    3. Men, generally, are not that selfish and, due to the cultural conditioning referenced in #2, consider it a social obligation to wife the bitch up, procreate, consume etc etc

    4. Even when a man is aware of his value, cultural pressures are very strong and it takes willful action to GYOW.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    darkgenius: The key is the sense of self worth. All of the pretty girls and socially successful jock guys in high school turn out to be the worst kind of people as adults. They peaked too early. They declared themselves winners in high school and decades later still define themselves according to those "winning qualities," even though they are incredibly childish.

    Girls who are shunned and made to put up with other people's shit will at least have the opportunity to mature past high school age. They will know the plight of the underdog, so they will be more likely to develop actual compassion. They will also see themselves as having less social currency, so they will work harder to compensate, which means developing skills instead of relying on a sense of inherent self worth. They will still be subjected to the insanity of the rest of society, but they will know that the most common story doesn't necessarily reflect reality.

    If there is any chance for a girl to grow up to become a decent person, then she needs to know how it feels to lose. Most of our culture has forgotten that real maturation is the result of blood, sweat, and tears. A girl who has experienced struggles will have a chance to become a real human being. The cheerleader is almost guaranteed to become worthless and repulsive while still feeling entitled to the best of everything, and so are all the girls who strive to be the cheerleader (beta females).

    Note: I said, "settle down with," and explicitly advised against marrying them. Once any woman feels that she owns you, she is very much more likely to ruin herself and you.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Guys hungry for female attention with the social pressures of everyone else getting hitched are easy prey for the fat chicks who are also facing similar forces. Like that last couple of kids finally getting selected for kickball teams in school gym class, they get paired off.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Men marry ugly women because most of them are desperate, afraid and don't value themselves.
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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Willers View Post
    My 2 cents worth...

    1. The great majority of men, leading their lives in quiet desperation, simply are not aware of their own value - either socially, sexually or in marriage.

    2. Mainstream culture has pedestalized teh wimminz as a means of browbeating the men, referenced above, into accepting the first hambeast or warpig that shows interest in them by making them feel as though they should be honored.

    3. Men, generally, are not that selfish and, due to the cultural conditioning referenced in #2, consider it a social obligation to wife the bitch up, procreate, consume etc etc

    4. Even when a man is aware of his value, cultural pressures are very strong and it takes willful action to GYOW.
    Good points. I'll add in one more-the uglier the woman, the nicer she has to be to the guys. Many men unaware of the Chameleon Syndrome are thus duped into thinking the hell they endured with a hotter girl was due to poor choice. While they're right, it's because every woman is the same when you strip away the facade. The only difference is the container, a lesson said man understands by year One of marriage.

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    Re: Why do men marry ugly women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    Long, long ago, in a galaxy far away, I was serving on a submarine with a torpedo man that had the philosophy that if you wanted a happy life make a fat ugly woman your wife. He lived what he preached. His assertion was that fat ugly women would be faithful, appreciative, and give sex on demand because they were glad to get any guy.

    All of this was back when fat ugly women were a small minority, not the vast majority, of women. Also it was before the self esteem movement spent 20 years telling all the fat ugly women how great they were. Now the fat ugly women are just as full of themselves as the few remaining thin beautiful women, maybe even more so since they have to self agrandize because they get little reinforcement from men.
    Truth has been spoken, even I knew a guy who said the same thing (ugly but not fat), but I agree this used to work before feminazism "empowered" this sort of women too.

    Men marry ugly women because most of them are desperate, afraid and don't value themselves.
    And so the vicious circle continues: men drop their standards lower and lower, even if they have 8+/10 looks just to not look bad or a failure in the eyes of society, and these lardasses/footfaces become more and more entitled.
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    Those men listened to the 2 Live Crew growing up...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grenade001 View Post
    A lot of military men seem to be married to hambeasts, more so than average. Still didn't mean they didn't get divorced.

    Well fat women were a minority 50 years ago. Nowadays men in Australia are getting Asian girls as girlfriends. In my city which is overwhelming majority White, most under 30 couples are White man/Asian woman. Considering most Asian women are thin, there is no excuse for marrying fat, maybe ugly, but not FAT!
    I was in the service for a long time and married a very beautiful woman. She was built like a brick shithouse and I was envied by all the other guys. Of course they didn't see, and neither did I until after the wedding, that she was a complete and utter bitch. I learned the hard way that all the beauty in the world doesn’t make up for even one speck of bitch. I have been divorced from her longer than most of you here have been alive. She married the guy she cheated on me with the last time (out of several). I pity that poor sucker; as the punishment definitely fit the crime. Even then you have to believe in truly extreme cruelty.

    I don’t believe in the philosophy of that long ago torpedo man, but I will say that an ugly woman that is warm and loving (good luck finding even this) is better than a beautiful bitch. I don’t recommend marrying either one, I am just giving my personal ranking. I am currently married to an Asian girl and live in the part of the US that used to be called the great white north. She is 27+ years younger than me (but still in her 30s as I am older than dirt), 5 foot tall and 105 pounds, with long black hair down to her waist. You don’t have to select from the smorgasbord of filth available in the west. Go to Asia and meet a nice girl if you want to marry. Not that I recommend marrying in any case.


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