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    Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Reading from this site gives a man a chance to be his own man, bound only by
    his best intent for himself and others.

    Well done, all around. A way to be Gentle Men.

    I can't say who I am anymore because I cannot express it with so little time left in my life.
    I'm not a monk because that woman I saw after lunch clearly could have fucked me if she indicated her necessity.
    I'm not a ghost anymore because I was seen desirous of a woman and others witnessed it to my dismay.
    I almost, kind of liked a woman today.

    So what! I'm a sucker for nice legs and a short skirt. Big deal.
    She couldn't talk about recent events. Only her shit and her special hole.
    She was almost obscene and in her own special way abysmal.

    I went, MEH and moved toward my goals. What a bore.

    Who cares if she takes her clothes off for money?
    She pays me for my services and I'm not her honey.
    I don't need to kiss anyone good night, so I sleep peacefully.

    In flight, now I'm free. I am the pilot and she pays a fee.
    I'm not who she wants me to be. I can't and I won't do THAT for any fee...
    I am who I say I am and do what I'm here to do, freely.

    I might be crazy
    Some have called me a troll,
    I don't bleed out of my hole,
    Random rants go where they need to be.


    Now, what do I call me?
    Possibility.

    LP
    "A bachelor is a man who didn’t make the same mistake once." -EternalBachelor
    Specialization is for insects. Robert A. Heinlein.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    LP, since you expressed a certain dissatisfaction with your writings, I will post a brief critique of this, your latest work. Please understand, I don’t mean to disparage you in any way. Rather, be offering some criticism from my own perspective, maybe it will be of some value to you.

    I can understand how you have become tired of the analytical style of writing which dominates this forum. However, if you wish to create something different, then you still must confine yourself within a certain structure—at least within the same work. Otherwise, without boundaries, your composition will be more like a flood than a river—a flood which will become dissipated instead of flowing somewhere.

    To be honest, the style here is too eclectic—it’s neither verse, nor prose, nor does it rhyme consistently, nor does it follow any kind rhythm of meter. Of course, in order to avoid monotony, the rules can be broken. However, without some over-arching structure, your compositions will have this dissipated quality. Therefore, try at least to follow a consistent form of writing or prose for the duration of any work. Only that way, can your imagination be set free from having to follow the inner dictates of pure logic. After all, if a written work does not have logical coherence, then it must have coherence in a psychological or aesthetic sense.
    The mind is its own place, and in itself
    Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Good one Mystic. I think...
    Drop the needle!

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Thank you MR.

    The last couple of weeks have been grueling and I'm fraying at the ends.

    The other day was a difficult one. When a woman is that direct about her
    attraction to me and her availability I get distracted, lose focus and start wondering
    what it would be like to have sex again instead of getting my work done.

    The emotional surge was strong. She probably ascertained that I wanted some
    shelter and creature comfort which would be partially correct. I do.

    It will have to wait. I've got more important matters which require my attention.

    Thank you for the support guys.
    It means a lot to me.

    LP
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    Specialization is for insects. Robert A. Heinlein.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Good one Mystic. I think...
    Don’t worry, Frog. Unless upvotes can be traded in for cash, it doesn’t matter how my comments are received.
    The mind is its own place, and in itself
    Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Rodent View Post
    Don’t worry, Frog. Unless upvotes can be traded in for cash, it doesn’t matter how my comments are received.
    Oh no Mystic, it's a great post. So good it left me in the dust at first. I'd a told LP not to quit his day job and left it at that.
    Drop the needle!

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    I had assumed LP, that you were describing your general state of mind—not a specific person or incident. Had I known, I would have focused more upon the content of your post and less upon the style. It appears, based upon what you wrote here, that your are talking about a desire for sexual gratification and a certain ‘domestic comfort’—not romantic love. Personally, I don’t see how such desires are incompatible with MGTOW—as long as you avoid any binding commitments.

    Also, I can understand the desire to express oneself in more poetic or oblique terms. While complete honesty may appear as an ideal way of relating with other people, I think there are levels of candor which are appropriate depending upon the situation. As for myself, I shall always guard certain feelings from the ridicule and incomprehension of the world, or only express them in a very indirect manner.

    In your case, it's difficult to offer any more specific advice since I don’t know much about your life. While you have talked about a long-term project involving physics (I admit it's beyond my comprehension), I can only accept your belief that any woman would prove too distracting. Ideally, I think it's best to have a relationship with a woman while remaining essentially detached. But maybe this is not feasible for you in your present situation.
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    Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    A ghost doesn't have to be hidden or secretive. But a ghost must guard what he treasures the most which is his personal opinions and thoughts about himself. Guard those treasures and you can go on adventure everyday as a ghost with a warm smile on your face.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Oh no Mystic, it's a great post. So good it left me in the dust at first. I'd a told LP not to quit his day job and left it at that.

    Yes, frog. I felt the same way.

    MR has an amazing way with words.

    Give him time to meditate. It's been an exhausting effort on his part and I completely respect that.

    I haven't given up on any of my clients since you suggested it, frog. So far so good.

    Some of them are so difficult I wish I had just thrown in the towel.

    Just like the expectations I hold for myself since going my own way.

    Thank you all for your advice. It's all good and worth considering.

    Much respect to all,
    LP
    "A bachelor is a man who didn’t make the same mistake once." -EternalBachelor
    Specialization is for insects. Robert A. Heinlein.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Hello LP

    I think it's more important who you are rather than what you are. It doesn't matter monk or ghost. Just be yourself and if you feel to have sex with a woman . . . go for it, there's nothing wrong with it. You know the drill better than most men, so I think you can control the situation and have an approach that doesn't destroy you. In case it means a great deal to you remaining a monk or ghost well than my advice is definitely the wrong one I admit. We are all humans in the end so don't worry I'm still having the urge to fuck women and I'm seriously considering to let out somebody I've put in the friendzone. I know the risks involved and she knows exactly how I think and that I take no shit from her. She called me a couple of weeks ago crying on the phone like desperate for 2 hours straight and I admit my indifference vanished and I felt empathy with her. But I had to shout a couple of times in quite a harsh manner to her to get her back to her senses. Life is all about vulnerability once you are aware of that you can transform it to your advantage.
    Stay safe my friend

    BTW your OT (opening topic) might not conform to what is the norm and how we have to approach certain writing styles, but it is definietly MGTOW. Your wrote your own way and I respect that. I read your words and I don't care if it's poetic or if it rhymes or if it has structure. Since my English sucks I'm not the one posting a critique on your writing.

    The message is what is important.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Born MGTOW View Post
    Hello LP

    I think it's more important who you are rather than what you are. It doesn't matter monk or ghost. Just be yourself and if you feel to have sex with a woman . . . go for it, there's nothing wrong with it. You know the drill better than most men, so I think you can control the situation and have an approach that doesn't destroy you. In case it means a great deal to you remaining a monk or ghost well than my advice is definitely the wrong one I admit. We are all humans in the end so don't worry I'm still having the urge to fuck women and I'm seriously considering to let out somebody I've put in the friendzone. I know the risks involved and she knows exactly how I think and that I take no shit from her. She called me a couple of weeks ago crying on the phone like desperate for 2 hours straight and I admit my indifference vanished and I felt empathy with her. But I had to shout a couple of times in quite a harsh manner to her to get her back to her senses. Life is all about vulnerability once you are aware of that you can transform it to your advantage.
    Stay safe my friend

    BTW your OT (opening topic) might not conform to what is the norm and how we have to approach certain writing styles, but it is definietly MGTOW. Your wrote your own way and I respect that. I read your words and I don't care if it's poetic or if it rhymes or if it has structure. Since my English sucks I'm not the one posting a critique on your writing.

    The message is what is important.
    Nothing wrong with your English. It reads fine to me.

    As for sex?

    That is just what I don't want at the moment. It will be 8 years without sex this June and they have been the best years of my life.
    I'm not in love with myself, I'm in love with my work. I don't dare lose focus now just because a short skirt and hot legs said
    something nice to me once.

    Most of the time I don't bother with women or admire them only from a distance.

    This instance is a wake up call for me that I haven't fully deprogrammed my mind from the predictable reaction sequence of
    the various mating rituals. She caught me off guard with her use of emphasis, wording, and tone. I was able to cover up my internal
    reaction through a well practiced deferral and some false body language. It was just a close call and I was alarmed at
    my momentary lapse of reason.

    As for my OP, I was a bit emotional and I tend to rhyme when I get that way. A long time ago I would write music and lyric by the
    basket load in an attempt to deprogram myself. I guess that is still a reflex I do not yet fully control.

    The great thing is, there is a safe space to share that insight with others and not be ashamed of it.

    Thanks, friend.

    LP
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    Specialization is for insects. Robert A. Heinlein.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nnFBkBJSIY

    This ten minute video articulates the drawback very well, in my crassly arrogant opinion. I implore you to watch the video or face the consequences of Big John the Destroyer of Stench Trenches (that is, the Destroyer of Rumpled Slit Skins for those familiar with bedtime story parlance).

    What may those consequences be, I hear you ask? Must I repeat them? Have you not seen and heard the horror stories emanating from these Stink Box Snatch Snappers? Is that Slot Machine really worth the gamble? Is this Sausage Wallet as tasty as it seems ? I know you have seen it, but how intriguing is this Area 51? Do the smokes from that Cigar Box have a better aroma?

    I tell you again and again, many a Big John have been ruined by their heaving hithering and thithering inside those ghastly Cavernous Gashes. I do not wish to see another whimpering little johnny being made out of a fellow MGTOW.

    I will also copy and paste a passage I have copy and pasted on here before:

    "As a new monk, Ajahn Chah wanted to get a handle on his sexual desire. He decided, as a plan of action, not to look at any woman for the entire three - month rain's retreat. Whenever a female person entered the monastery, he practiced restraint and looked down. At the end of the retreat, he thought he had done pretty well. To test whether he had been cured of his lust, he decided to deliberately look at the village women when they came to the monastery. Rather than having gone beyond lust, he found that he was a complete mess. As he related it, when his eyes rested on a woman, it was as if he had been struck by lightning - his lust was that overwhelming. Although he failed in this instance, he learned a valuable lesson: restraint is insufficient in overcoming defilements. One needs to develop understanding as well."

    Scratching that itch will only re-enforce those habits. So here is a final video to watch if you are having a problem with choking the chicken:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Lg9P-VekA
    Last edited by Puggsy; April 7, 2017 at 9:16 PM.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Have you ever said to yourself "That's a pretty cobra, i think i'll stick my dick in it"?

    I refuse to be a part of the Three Ring Circus: Engagement ring. Wedding ring. Suffer ring.

    You can't be king of the world if you're slave to the vag.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Well, you admitting it is refreshing. I feel the same way quite a bit. Once I joined this forum, I felt scurred to admit that some women, of all ages, btw, get me friggin crazy. I just have gotten into an almost religious habit of not looking anymore. What's actually happening is I do look, just as long as they don't see me looking. That in itself is pretty creepy. Now I'm a creepy mghow.

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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelEye View Post
    Well, you admitting it is refreshing. I feel the same way quite a bit. Once I joined this forum, I felt scurred to admit that some women, of all ages, btw, get me friggin crazy. I just have gotten into an almost religious habit of not looking anymore. What's actually happening is I do look, just as long as they don't see me looking. That in itself is pretty creepy. Now I'm a creepy mghow.
    You are not creepy. You are on to their game and they know it. Women know all about fashion.
    They selected their clothing to attract attention in a specific way.

    This is what creeps women out about MGTOW. We have better options which do not include them.
    That is a frightening thought to a woman who did all that work to appear "Desirable".

    The first thing that women want from men is to be crazy like they are.
    When you can't be that crazy, then you must be insane, inept, gay, or disabled.
    They judge you because they also assume that you judge them.
    This is not always the case.

    That is ok with us, we don't want to fertilize their rotten eggs.

    Women require judgment of their actions given your intent and input.
    They seek value based only upon your interaction and acceptance of their game.

    In Truth, there is no game.
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    Re: Not sure if I'm a ghost or a monk any more

    Quote Originally Posted by Chukhed View Post
    Have you ever said to yourself "That's a pretty cobra, i think i'll stick my dick in it"?

    No, but I had a pet boa constrictor a while ago. She was beautiful, for a snake. I named her "Rose".

    She helped me cure my fear of reptiles and my distaste for mice.

    I learned a lot about having a girlfriend from owning a constrictor as a pet.
    "A bachelor is a man who didn’t make the same mistake once." -EternalBachelor
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