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  1. #21

    Re: How much do you despise women?

    Dude, no. Hate is energy very badly spent. So is active dislike. I evaluate women on a one on one basis, everyone gets exactly one chance to screw up with me, and after that I basically ignore them.

  2. #22

    Re: How much do you despise women?

    I'm not angry; I'm disappointed.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    IMO, the question that forms the foundation of how a man should interact with woman is: "How much do women despise men, and in particular, me?" Then, look at the current anti-male social climate, recollect your individual experiences and from there think of them and treat them EXACTLY as they think of you and treat you.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    I don't despise snakes, wild animals or (if you're a diver) moray eels, I think all can be beautiful creatures, but I sure as heck know not to screw around with them.

  5. #25

    Re: How much do you despise women?

    Zero here, I have accepted that they will never change, like war.
    In the end, I will always prefer to walk alone, simply because I enjoy the peace and freedom of my free will. -Me

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOW4LYFE View Post
    On a one to ten scale? I would say Im at an 11 everything wrong and fucked up in this world can be attributed to these parasites.
    I don't despise women; I even like many women as friends and co-workers - but deep inside I do not trust any woman.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    While there are no doubt true misogynists among MGTOW, it seems the vast majority feel distrust rather than hate. When you don't trust someone, do you prefer to associate with them of your own accord or keep your distance? That's the MGTOW attitude as concerns women, in my opinion.

  8. #28

    Re: How much do you despise women?

    I intermittently hate women. Once I hear a feminist or a retarded bitch talking about some nonsensical issue, I get incredibly irritated. I can honestly say that I've moved past relationships and all that nonsense, but I can't say I've completely stopped my compulsion to emotionally invest in women. My anger diminishes when I acknowledge women for what they are and not who they are. What they are is a result/method to achieve greater reproductive success. I recognize that women significantly lack the agency to overcome their situation and are simply by products of the environment. Not the other way around.

  9. #29

    Re: How much do you despise women?

    I intermittently hate women. Once I hear a feminist or a retarded bitch talking about some nonsensical issue, I get incredibly irritated.
    That would be hating the woman who's speaking, not women in general. There's a difference, and it's quite important.

    I recognize that women significantly lack the agency to overcome their situation and are simply by products of the environment. Not the other way around.
    Women are encouraged by the environment to eschew agency, but it doesn't mean they lack it in general. By rejecting the victim narrative and taking control, a woman is perfectly capable of enjoying both the benefits and detriments of full agency. While I'll probably catch flack for putting out a NAWALT argument, I don't think all women are deserving of hate from the actions of even a sizable subset. Hate is a very strong emotion, and it should be reserved for those who truly deserve it.

    After several decades of life, I can't honestly say I hate any individual. I resent some of those who hurt me, and I'm extremely cautious around women due to simple observation and an understanding of probability, but there's not one that I truly hate. Perhaps I'm too sensitive to the power of words though.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    I also (again) feel the need to add this:

    I perfectly understand and accept the hatred men can have for women. we like to all claim that we are beyond hatred here, but I think we also need to be honest. hatred is unavoidable. at one point or another, our bile will rise when we see women sink to a new depth everyday. we're in a unique position to observe the evil that women commit, because we are finally awake to it.

    hate is a natural reaction to injustice. if seeing injustice does not create some ire, then you're already dead inside. I am proud to admit that I can still get my hackles up when a father is driven to suicide by a divorce, or when a male child is murdered simply because they are not a girl.

    but I also don't let my hate dominate my life. it's more like a stream that flows into a river. it's a part of me that flows in and out. it's important to be able to let go of the hate and live without it, to be able to release it and do what you want to do. the vast majority of my time is spent doing things that bring me pleasure. ultimately, I enjoy life, but it's because I am not heartless or callous that I can feel all of this and get by in life.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    if seeing injustice does not create some ire, then you're already dead inside.
    This bothers me largely because that's exactly what happens for me and a lack of emotion in those situations (where I'm not immediately affected) concerns me as it suggests psychopathy. I could simply be suppressing such feelings subconsciously, but the hypochondriac in me still worries about potential mental illness.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOW4LYFE View Post
    On a one to ten scale? I would say Im at an 11 everything wrong and fucked up in this world can be attributed to these parasites.
    Don't really despise them. Only have an amused pity.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    Ya know,when i first had the rug yanked out from under me.It wasn't women at first,it was the ex.We had a rough patch,and i went into the hospital for scheduled surgery,awoke and surprise "you're an asshole and i'm getting a divorce" Still woozy,think i hit the morphine button and passed out.As the days passed and i was recovering,it hit..Were talking about burning seething " i will burn your whole fucking town down " RAGE!!!!

    When i finally got home.Was wondering how long i would have it.She said the divorce papers are on there way.As i sat down and read them,was at first a bit confused and relieved.Compared to others,i would call it pretty much a free pass.Besides agreeing to take over all aquired debt and pay off a few other things(she still drained the savings,checking,and took out a large cash advance on the credit card).That was it.No house,alimony,etc..That threw a bucket of ice on my rage,and i calmed down quite a bit.
    She still comes over for the most innane bullshit and i wanna SPARTA her ever increasing ass of the porch..Why wont they go away? So i'll say a hard 4 now

    So shit.i gotta get outta this house for awhile before i go stir crazy.

    Girl number one.knew her but never really meet her.We never even dated.just hook ups.You wanna talk about riding the carousel.I'm pretty sure she helped fine tune the up and down motion.At one of the lowest points in my life she arrived with open legs and a six pack.Pounded her like cheap steak.Don't know the value of that type of theraphy but it helped alot.She's a 3 just for being such an enjoyable slut.

    Girl number two.Meet her i believe at grocery store.Couple days later picked her up for a movie date.On the way there.She has me stop at a store,starts rummaging around her purse,pulls out a bunch of change and a couple dollars.Looks at me.I'm like what?
    i need cigarettes "Ah.I don't smoke" well give me some money! You can afford it.Tossed her a fiver.She got her smokes and got back in the car.I took her home from the store and left.Aaaand apparently i'm still an asshole. She's an 8.Bitch.Still gives me dirty looks.He He

    Girl number three.Over at my house.sitting on my couch,heavy make out season.She's half naked,asks me if i can still get it up right before saying she doesn't go all the way on the first date.Ha Ha fuck off.And where done.Yea probably a missed opportunity,but she was just one big continuous mind fuck.I still wasn't properly prepared and had to retreat.She's a 4 just cause i got to see them tittays.Wow!

    So i had been divorced around four years and this whole time i had been reading up on the manosphere and the so called red pill.And trying to put things in action.Besides the occasional skirt chasing.I really started during this time to become me again.That person had gone away along time ago.And i vowed to never let that happen again.

    Which brings me to my longest relationship to date.A little over a year.She was a pretty decent girl.Little over 40,nice bod.Not too mental.Liked the bedroom,cooked fairly decent.She was the real eye opener(they all are pretty much the same,just different camoflage)I had made it plainly clear that i did not want anything longterm.Was never gonna get married again.And no moving in.Well guess what.After awhile she started playing the sex game.Like i had to earn credits to trade in for ass.More and more of her stuff was finding its way into my house.And then the "I'll make you into the man i want started" I don't think you should work so much on the road.Well,i got a big ass bill to pay off and it makes me alot off extra money.So.....Ah o.k. You know motorcycles are really dangerous and i would feel safer if you sold it....She's rounding third.....And youre out! She's a 5 for just being a turn coat.

    Despise? eh,pretty strong word.All my anger was gone awhile ago pretty much replaced with IDGAF.I'm no serial dater,been just me for a little while now.I still go out,date once in awhile.I've pretty much grown accustumed to do what ever the hell i want.Doubt that will change.One of the nice things about travelling for work is that i get to try out all this red pill theory in places i don't live.The alure of the V is still strong.

    I'm pretty sure all the woman over 40 have been rode hard and put away sticky.And to what i have seen they are all pretty much the same .What can you do for me? Their life still revovles around me,me,me.The delusion is strong.In their noggin they are still nineteen and perky.I don't think they will ever realize they are on the the self at the end of the aisle with discount tags on.
    Be a dick and they'll be pulling on it.Be a nice guy and end up with an empty wallet and nothing to show for it.It's the sad truth but the world we live in.

    Sorry bout the long post.Just kinds turned into story time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    I'm pretty sure all the woman over 40 have been rode hard and put away sticky.And to what i have seen they are all pretty much the same .What can you do for me? Their life still revovles around me,me,me.The delusion is strong.In their noggin they are still nineteen and perky.I don't think they will ever realize they are on the the self at the end of the aisle with discount tags on.
    Be a dick and they'll be pulling on it.Be a nice guy and end up with an empty wallet and nothing to show for it.It's the sad truth but the world we live in.

    Sorry bout the long post.Just kinds turned into story time.
    This weekend I was drinking with a buddy. We left my place and there were 2 women in the hallway with some dude, waiting for the elevator. She said it was my fault the elevator was slow.

    I turned to the dude I was with, pointed at the batshyt, and told him "that why I don't date. That shyt is beyond belief."

    Dude I was with stood up for her. His jaw dropped. Said I was just angry.

    Nope. Just sick of bs. Put me at a 10. Women bring nothing to make my life better. Entitlement pisses me off. I got nothing for them but my opinion, and walking happily away.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    I am at zero.

    I do not despise women or hate them. I understand women and therefore I am coldly and logically indifferent to women.

    Hating women for being hypergamous, neotenic, overly depending on feelings and tingles is like hating vampires for sucking blood. That's just what they are. You cannot hate nature. You have to learn to adapt and live with it.

    To me, women are exactly like Sirens from Odyssey. Not alike or somewhat similar but the exact same. In Odyssey, the sirens are portrayed as beautiful women on a place amongst rough seas where the sing promises of enchantments and bliss. If a man gets enchanted by their song, they will jump over, brave the rough seas to try to reach them. Once the man reaches there though, the Sirens quickly shed of the visage of beauty, turn into their predatory selves and feast on the man.

    That is what women are to me. Sirens.

    Do I want to kill and hate the Sirens ? No. I firmly believe that freedom is the right of all sentient lives including sirens.

    So how do I deal with the Human Siren ? I just do what the Ancient Greek sailors did. Somewhat. The sailors sealed their ears with wax. I seal my ears and eyes with cold logic and rationality.

    Additionally, isn't it curiously funny that 3000 years later after the poem was first sung...we still use the word "Siren" to mean Alarm call. Interesting, no ?
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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    something else from my childhood I recalled today:

    there was only one kid we grew up with that had a father. knew about 10 kids on a regular basis, only 1 dad. guess what happened to that friend?

    the other "best friend" of ours eventually convinced us to never hang around him ever again. looking back, it's obvious that he just didn't want us having other friends. so you are probably thinking to yourself: "that was an obviously horrible mistake, why would you allow that to happen?" once again I must repeat, there were no dads in the picture for any of us. no one to stand up for me and tell me to have some self respect, some dignity, some integrity.

    so I don't really hate women more or less because of this, but there's no denying the destructive effect that women's poor choices have made on civilization. when we're living in concrete bunkers and ramshackle apartments with boarded up windows, peeling the skanks off our thighs so they can go back to scavenging for scraps of food and we can return to our target practice, no one will be asking themselves how much they hate women.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    I don't despise all women and I have some good female friends. Having said that, I'm certainly not intending on getting into another relationship. Once you go from acquaintances or friends to lovers, everything goes off the rails.

    The only group of women I despise are femicunts.. sorry feminists.

  18. #38

    Re: How much do you despise women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOW4LYFE View Post
    On a one to ten scale? I would say Im at an 11 everything wrong and fucked up in this world can be attributed to these parasites.
    A couple of years ago, I would have thought that is an extreme opinion. But now? I agree with you 10000 fucking percent. Women are parasites, they are an evolutionary mistake, and the sooner we can replace women with artificial wombs, VR porn, and sex robots, the sooner mankind can evolve.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    0/10

    I don't despise women, I just have no interest in dealing with them. For me living without having to deal with women is pretty trivial so it's really no burden on me. Sure there's a lot that's messed up with the world, just minimize its impact on you and move on.

    If you strongly despise women I'd suggest you revise just how they're affecting you and then alter your habits and lifestyle accordingly, they're just another problem like anything else, find a practical/workable solution.

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    Re: How much do you despise women?

    In my early-20's, I was at about a 7 or 8. I was really idealistic back then.

    Today I'm at about a 2. I've thoroughly indoctrinated myself into the MGTOW lifestyle and don't give them much of a thought. Occasionally I'll see a late 20s, trashy, tatted-up one with a nice body and think to myself, "I'll bet she'd be fun," but those thoughts pass quickly.


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