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    Classic and Modern Hobbies or Trades by MGTOW

    tell us some of the things you do for fun or for profit that you have started to compliment your MGTOW lifestyle.

    have you revived any hobbies or trades that were or are obsolete?

    how much money does your hobby or trade cost?

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    Amateur radio. It's largely a male activity.
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    Being a big reader keep's you out of trouble, guess you could say that compliment's a GYOW lifestyle. But since I usually want to own that book, not borrow it, it can lead to considerable expense. I am now a fountain of more or less worthless knowledge. But I've read the adventure stories from hundred's of people doing all kind of crazy shit. It help's you understand how you fit into the world, and there's something to be said for that.

    Leatherwork another big hobby. It don't have to cost a lot, but of course that's not how I did it. I have a ton invested in both tool's and leather. You can't just buy whatever kind of leather whenever you want it. If you find something you like you'd best take it all home, and damn the expense. I got twenty feet of wire shelf's stuffed to the gill's... I'm too slow to be worth selling anything, but I can make nice stuff.

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    Shooting. Yeah there are women who shoot, but SERIOUS shooting (e.g. tactical shooting like IPSC or long-range precision shooting like F-Class) is mostly a man's hobby. Especially the long range shooting, since you need to create your own reloads for ammo. Chicks ain't into that sort of focus and expense.

    But it's bloody expensive. The cheapest entry level rifle (like a stock Remington 700 or Savage FCP-HS chambered in .308 or .300 win mag) will cost about $1500, an entry-level long range optic would cost at a minimum $1000, plus you need ammo (match ammo can be $3-$5 per shot for .308, it's way cheaper and more accurate if you do reloads). Then there's range fees. And the ancillary gear (bag, bipod, barometer, etc). Huge expense in both time and money. But long range precision shooting is pretty much a male dominated hobby.

    Hunting too obviously. Not a lot of women want to kill 'fuzzy-wuzzy cwute widdle cwitters' and then stick their hands into the animal's body cavity to remove the guts.

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    Re: Classic and Modern Hobbies or Trades by MGTOW

    All prices are in 2014 USD

    The main ones I keep at are Swimming/Snorkeling the ocean, Shooting guns, and mountain biking. Below is breakdown of what this stuff costs me.


    Snorkeling/swimming - Costs the price of gear which set me back about $300; that was Fins ($100), snorkel + mask ($50 on sale), defogger/mask cleaner ($20) wetsuit ($100) and travel bag($30). My nominal costs are gas to get to destination and occasionally parking. Very cheap hobby.


    GUNS - Shooting firearms was a cheap sport, but due to increase in cost of commodities and scarcity of .22 ammo this is no longer the case. In the US factor in anything from $.10-$.15 for .22 ammo, and around $.30 a shot for 9mm; .45 is about $.50 a round depending on what you shoot. If you shoot the good stuff (hollow point defensive rounds) the cost on centerfire ammo can reach $2.00 a round. I stick with buying 100 rnds of 9mm at a time as it is one of the best deals in the shooting world today. It used to be .22, but again scarcity and demand have fucked that game up for a lot of recreational shooters like myself. I highly recommend everyone at least own a shotgun for home defense. There are few firearms which are as easy to use, cheap to shoot, cheap to buy (lower end models) and offer high destructive power than with a shotgun.

    Mountain Biking - Mountain biking for trail riding is very inexpensive once you get past the bike. I paid about $500 for mine(hardtail Raleigh talus 8.0). Sky is the limit on what you want to spend but unless you plan on doing DownHill courses you would be fine with a hard-tail to start out with. Further investment would be an upgrade to a full suspension model. My costs are gas to go to a location, and then replacement tires and brakes. It's been a very cheap hobby for me, however if you deck out your ride the cost can be high. If anyone is considering this spend the extra money on clip in pedals they will enhance the experience.


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    I'm a railfan which is a historically MGTOW hobby.
    Just watching trains doesn't cost a dime but photographing them cost me a bit since I still use film.
    Also model railroading used to be expensive but not so much any more ever since train simulators came out.
    I prefer train Sims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaiah4:1 View Post
    I'm a railfan which is a historically MGTOW hobby.
    Just watching trains doesn't cost a dime but photographing them cost me a bit since I still use film.
    Also model railroading used to be expensive but not so much any more ever since train simulators came out.
    I prefer train Sims.
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    My father used to build live steam models.
    Those ones that you can actually ride?!

    Steam locos were long before my time but I am fascinated by the engineering that went into them. They're built like a Swiss watch!

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    Re: Classic and Modern Hobbies or Trades by MGTOW

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    [COLOR=#ff0000]Snorkeling/swimming - Costs the price of gear which set me back about $300; that was Fins ($100), snorkel + mask ($50 on sale), defogger/mask cleaner ($20) wetsuit ($100) and travel bag($30). My nominal costs are gas to get to destination and occasionally parking. Very cheap hobby.
    I see you and raise you two ... tanks, that is.



    (The photo is from a pool-practice session when I was learning side-mount scuba. You can see the two tanks at my sides, below or rather behind my armpits.)

    Scuba diving, as opposed to snorkeling, is not a cheap hobby. But the idea thrilled me since I was a child, and went from watching James Bond diving it "Thunderball" to reading Jacque-Yves Cousteau's The Silent World. Still, it wasn't until I was 40 that I finally took lessons and got certified as a scuba diver.

    I've done some diving off the Delaware coast, and training/practice/proficiency dives in flooded, repurposed rock quarries in Virginia and Pennsylvania; but for the past few years, I've been a vacation diver in the Caribbean (and most recently in the Gulf of Thailand). I enjoy underwater photography, and though I haven't published anything other than on a few web-forums, I've gotten reasonably good at it.

    During my last trip, I took a specialty course in "side-mount" diving. Instead of having the tanks (and typically one tank) on your back, this involves clipping them to your sides, under your armpits - typically two tanks, with independent regulators. This is more of a technical skill, typically for cave diving and wreck-penetration, but it also lets me carry twice as much breathing gas and take off my tanks before I leave the water - even resort-diving, where I'm using the dive operator's tanks. (The "aluminum 80" tank most dive-operators provide is slightly buoyant when it's empty; 80 cubic feet of air at sea-level weighs a touch over six pounds.)

    Scuba is an equipment-heavy sport, gear-wise and money-wise. But it is the closest thing to flying - I don't mean operating or riding in an aircraft - that one can experience. All the same, it's not necessarily a MGTOW sport, but it's thanks to going my own way that I'm able to afford the gear, the trips, and the "bottom time."
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    Re: Classic and Modern Hobbies or Trades by MGTOW

    Well IMHO a good hobby is modifying cars. Lets say you pick up a Pontiac Firebird V6 of 1998 Vintage for around 3 Grand. All you would need to do is buy a supercharger (Eaton M90 Roughly 500 on Ebay) do some welding and cutting then maybe mount an intercooler (200). Then add on a Buick riviera computer (100) and perhaps some bigger injectors (Like 400) also changing your gaskets and a boost gauge (100).

    TL;DR you can take a 180 HP fuel miser Firebird and boost the power to 300 HP in about 2 days work and still have kickass fuel economy. Modding cars and racing them is awesomely good fun.

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    I play harmonica. I like a wooden body but am content with middle-of-the-road bluesharps for now -- they're not too expensive. I've never met a female harmonica player, and the instrument befits the romanticized image of the lonely western gunslinger (as well as the jovial fireside accompaniment).

    Reading is rarely all that expensive: I buy many books from Ebay for cheap. Many worthwhile reads are public domain too of course, and can be read digitally. A friend of mine who works in a bookstore tells me women only buy novels (and usually trite ones); men buy everything else, and the good novels.

    Music of all kinds is often very cheap nowadays. Huge classical CD boxsets go for amazing values. I got my Furwängler Das Vermächtnis bosxet for about 50 bucks, and it contains over a hundred CDs! The amount of women at classical music concerts? Not many. Sometimes I don't see one around; other times you see wives angrily starting at their watches.
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    Those ones that you can actually ride?!

    Steam locos were long before my time but I am fascinated by the engineering that went into them. They're built like a Swiss watch!
    No, just models at a smaller scale, but they're supposed to work on their own right. I know he completed a locomotive and, I vaguely recall hearing that he actually fired its boiler. He once built a small hot-air engine and the wee beastie actually worked.

    Since you're a fellow Canuck, if you're ever out in B. C., try to stop by Fort Steele. It has a track on which an old Shay engine runs and pulls passenger cars behind it. And, yes, it has a whistle!

    Also, watch for the Royal Hudson. It's an old CPR locomotive that's been refurbished and is sometimes on tour. I believe it's based in Vancouver and, the year I was at UBC as a grad student, I remember hearing its whistle all the way from across the north side of Burrard Inlet. Now that is a sound to hear!

    Oh, and if you're interested in steam models, there are clubs in Vancouver and in Calgary or, at least, there were 35 years ago. I once attended a meeting in Vancouver and I think that it might have had a track somewhere. I know there was one in the Calgary region, near Midnapore and adjacent to the Sarcee reserve.
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    Right now my hobbies have been scaled back a bit due to my injury. However I'll start with the first hobby I really enjoy which is gaming or you can even say computers. Now I am including these both as one hobby since in order to be able to play a game you need to know how computers work and of course how to fix them. Yes I know you can buy consoles that are just plug and play, however I prefer computer games. One reason is that I have a much wider selection of games, everything from a first person shooter to a real time strategy game. The next would be the freedom I have to change that game through the use of mods. So you can have a game like fallout 3 and mod it so that it becomes a totally different game, with more hours of fun.

    Now getting into the actual hardware is a bit different. For a good gaming computer it will cost a few bucks. A starting gaming system will run you right around $1,200 for a good starter unit. However I prefer to build them myself. This takes a bit of knowledge and research to accomplish in order to build a system that will preform like you want it to. Mainboard and CPU is where you want to start at in building your system. Think of the CPU as your engine and the mainboard as the transmission if you were to compare it to a car. Next would be your RAM, which would be similar to the fuel injection or carburetor on your car. Now these are just the basic starting items, next you want to look into hard drives and video cards. Hard drives your looking for amount of space, data transfer rates and seek time. This insures that your not waiting forever to load a game or for the game to load the next map for you. Video cards and sound cards are very important for gaming. A shitty video card will screw up the best CPU, mainboard and RAM combo out on the market. I usually stick with Nivida video cards, however don't ignore ATI, that also have some damn good video cards. Now to be honest with you guys I have not built a system in a long time, so I have no clue about the prices today. However, I will say that a good video card will be right around the $200 to $300 dollar price range. Yes, you can find other video cards that will cost a lot more, however most of the time they do not offer much more. Playing games is fun, however knowing how to fix or build your next ultimate gaming system makes it a real fun hobby.

    Fishing is another hobby I am enjoying. For the most part a pretty cheap and very relaxing hobby. Fishing license does not cost a lot and access to the lakes here where I live don't cost much either. However you can travel to places where their is no lake or river access fee and enjoy yourself. I usually bring a small radio with me, cooler, portable butane stove and some odds and ends. Hell I can cook and eat the damn fish if I want to while I am fishing for the next meal. However nothing is more relaxing than just sitting back listening to the radio with your pole in the water, watching the wildlife do their thing around you.

    I actually have a lot more hobbies that I love doing, however if I was going to list out a few things that every MGTOW should learn about the I would say these things.

    Welding, you may not use it often or think you will ever have a need for it. However being able to join two pieces of broken metal is a very useful skill.

    Basic Electrical/Electronics knowledge, Knowing this can be very useful. Guys here that do armature radio understand this. Now I don't mean you need to know how to build your own mainboard or anything like that. However basic knowledge on how electricity works and how circuits work can be very helpful.

    Mechanics, Once again an obvious one for obvious reasons. Nothing sucks more than to break down someplace and have to take that long walk over a busted water hose or a blown fuse.

    Hunting, If you have this skill and the tools to do it with (anything from a knife to a hunting rifle) then hunger is never a problem.

    Basic Survival Skills, No I am not talking about some dooms day preper shit. However basic skills to survive in the forest, mountains, deserts or swamps is always a plus. Knowing were to find clean drinking water or how to make it is tops on this one. Remember you can go without food for a couple of weeks, only a couple of days without water. However this subject has a wide range of topics. Survival skills differ between circumstances, so you can spend a lot of time learning about this subject.

    Other things that I want to get back into doing as hobbies are archery, long range target shooting, static model kit building, gold panning and building R/C cars and planes. Once my health improves I will probably start off with archery. Archery was something I was very good at when I was a kid and teenager and thanks to being distracted by twats I've not taken the time to keep up with it. Building and repairing computers is something I might have to get back into if my arm is unable to be fully healed. I use to actually own a business doing this along with IT services, so for me it is not just a hobby it is something to fall back on if I can't drive a truck anymore. I've been out of the business for sometime now, however it would only take me a couple of months of research to get myself up to date. I do have a wide range of hobbies that I like and skills to match them. Some I have high skill levels in, while others I am armature at best. However all of these skills/hobbies provide hours of joy and best of all they are useful towards a MGTOW lifestyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarter Wave Vertical View Post
    No, just models at a smaller scale, but they're supposed to work on their own right. I know he completed a locomotive and, I vaguely recall hearing that he actually fired its boiler. He once built a small hot-air engine and the wee beastie actually worked.

    Since you're a fellow Canuck, if you're ever out in B. C., try to stop by Fort Steele. It has a track on which an old Shay engine runs and pulls passenger cars behind it. And, yes, it has a whistle!

    Also, watch for the Royal Hudson. It's an old CPR locomotive that's been refurbished and is sometimes on tour. I believe it's based in Vancouver and, the year I was at UBC as a grad student, I remember hearing its whistle all the way from across the north side of Burrard Inlet. Now that is a sound to hear!

    Oh, and if you're interested in steam models, there are clubs in Vancouver and in Calgary or, at least, there were 35 years ago. I once attended a meeting in Vancouver and I think that it might have had a track somewhere. I know there was one in the Calgary region, near Midnapore and adjacent to the Sarcee reserve.
    Man your dad sounds like those great men during the industrial revolution. Kinds reminds me of the stories I read about Alexander Graham Bell's parents.
    Thanks for that info. Never been out west but I'll definitely check it out. They have a recently restored steamer in King City which is about 45 minutes north of Toronto. That's the closest one I am aware of. I'm a diesel fan though and am thinking of volunteering at the York-Durham heritage railway this season. They have some of the very few working Alco locomotives running.
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    Mixed Martial Arts (MMA).
    Going to see movies on the big screen.
    Drinking hot chocolate at Starbuck's while observing the people and the expressions on the faces of the men who are dragging the wife and kids along.





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    I race rc cars. I am a member in a local club that has an outdoor track in nearby in a state park. I am into 1/8 scale buggies, both electric and nitro. It's mainly a group of guys. There are a few women around, the wags of the racers. The cost can get a little outta hand. For an electric setup your lookin at around 800 for a fair car, remote control, batteries and charger. I like wrenchin on em while watchin tv at night. They are maintenance whores, almost 1 to 1 ratio run time to drive time for nitro and a little better for the electrics.
    I also like target practice with the bow and the pellet gun. Both are cheap after the initial buy in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarter Wave Vertical View Post
    Amateur radio. It's largely a male activity.
    Same here. Very much male world. My gateway for "building" computers, too. Took a liking to tower climbing and erection. Not a pro, just helping fellow hams. Did some ham classes for the locals and try to be a proctor for the tests (Volunteer Examiner) Volunteer Fire Dept. has consumed most of my efforts for the past 5 years.

    Really enjoyed fixing up the old farm house, but ran out of money for the final phase. Wish I had taken it on in my younger years. Many moons ago did skydiving, and may try it again if I loose some tonnage.

    Being on military retirement, most everything I do now I treat as a hobby. I made more than enough on this year's crop to pay the taxes and a little from the Fire Dept. which pays for all the running around I do for it. Cutting and splitting firewood, cutting brush, (my best crop) and working on the field are all fun for me. I guess I'm a gentleman farmer; well, least a farmer.

    When the old lady was still alive and I was tied to home as her caretaker, I would list my occupation on forms as "homemaker."

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    Man your dad sounds like those great men during the industrial revolution. Kinds reminds me of the stories I read about Alexander Graham Bell's parents.
    My father is a machinist and learned to do precise machining, so building his model engines is an extension of his trade. It can take several years to build one because many of the components have to be made from scratch and, often, more than one of a given item is required.


    Thanks for that info.
    You're welcome.

    Never been out west but I'll definitely check it out. They have a recently restored steamer in King City which is about 45 minutes north of Toronto. That's the closest one I am aware of. I'm a diesel fan though and am thinking of volunteering at the York-Durham heritage railway this season. They have some of the very few working Alco locomotives running.
    If you happen to make it out west, you might stop by some of the various museums and historical sites out here. Many of them have vintage machinery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toolate View Post
    Same here. Very much male world. My gateway for "building" computers, too. Took a liking to tower climbing and erection. Not a pro, just helping fellow hams. Did some ham classes for the locals and try to be a proctor for the tests (Volunteer Examiner) Volunteer Fire Dept. has consumed most of my efforts for the past 5 years.
    I live in an apartment, so I'm restricted in what I can do.

    My personal specialty is satellites. Since I have to set up my linear station outside, it's a warm-weather activity for me. I have worked FM birds in the past, but we're now down to only one that's active.

    I've worked stations as far away as Florida, Hawaii, Mexico, and Finland. That's probably because there's usually someone who's interested in working my grid square and I'm probably the only one here who's active on satellites.

    Really enjoyed fixing up the old farm house, but ran out of money for the final phase. Wish I had taken it on in my younger years. Many moons ago did skydiving, and may try it again if I loose some tonnage.

    Being on military retirement, most everything I do now I treat as a hobby. I made more than enough on this year's crop to pay the taxes and a little from the Fire Dept. which pays for all the running around I do for it. Cutting and splitting firewood, cutting brush, (my best crop) and working on the field are all fun for me. I guess I'm a gentleman farmer; well, least a farmer.

    When the old lady was still alive and I was tied to home as her caretaker, I would list my occupation on forms as "homemaker."
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    Rediscovered D&D a few years back. Dropped out of one group after it
    1 - became infested with women
    2 - underneath the chatter, I heard the words "One in Four" exchanged between these two

    But, there's other games to be getting on with.


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