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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

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    There is this woman who really seemed hot for me like two weeks ago.
    A woman's menstrual cycle is roughly 4 weeks.

    It's that simple.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

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    MGTOW, I thought was about forsaking the Disney dream of so-called love and cohabitating and/or getting married.

    Sorry if dating and getting a little disappointed in some chick letting me down does not MEET your ahem "HIGH standards," ha ha.
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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Ive corrected your quote for you.
    When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    In that link above is like the best correction ever of a quote of mine! (How do I do the cross out graphic you did there?) Anyway, I needed brutal truth (and I mean that in a good way). Thankfully I got that.

    Instead of feeling rejected last night (even though I knew I was with some plausible deniability crap), your posts and everyone elses were a GREAT wake up call. I immediately deleted her number. Time to be like the man I was just a few years ago: if a woman does not return my call in a timely manner, she is promptly nexted.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    A woman's menstrual cycle is roughly 4 weeks.

    It's that simple.
    She was ovulating...

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes View Post
    She was ovulating...
    Indeed.

    All the craziness, all the flakiness, all the "WTF just happened?" is driven by their hormones. It's the big, central, enormous, inescapable, primary, unignorable fact of their lives. One of the reasons women want a man is that men are "stable". They don't simply mean long-term money (although often they do). What they mean is that the entire world lurches between sunny and optimistic to dank and scary every two weeks and back again, but men are curiously unaffected by this.

    Kids: nothing they do makes sense until you factor this in.

    -- EDIT --

    This is why so many of 'em adore being pregnant and nursing. Oh, the kids are a nuisance, but getting a year-long break from the crazy train (nursing often halts the menstrual cycle) is worth it.

    And I am convinced that the reason the world has gone so incredibly nuts is hormonal contraception. It absolutely wreaks long-term havoc with their emotional self. A woman who has been on the pill for 15 years is not the same person that she would be if she hadn't.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Francis View Post
    When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    In that link above is like the best correction ever of a quote of mine! (How do I do the cross out graphic you did there?) Anyway, I needed brutal truth (and I mean that in a good way). Thankfully I got that.

    Instead of feeling rejected last night (even though I knew I was with some plausible deniability crap), your posts and everyone elses were a GREAT wake up call. I immediately deleted her number. Time to be like the man I was just a few years ago: if a woman does not return my call in a timely manner, she is promptly nexted.
    Glad you found my ''correction'' useful. Ive had to evoke a 2 strike rule myself before and she knew about it too. She just could not resist testing partly because she had never met a guy that stood up to her. I walked and never looked back.

    Having crystal clear boundaries will save you a lot of time and energy, and when the girl knows you have such boundaries they only have themselves to blame if they cross them. Far too many guys keep on moving the goal post until their balls are no longer anywhere to be seen.

    I also think a guy should have clear boundaries for themselves concerning the level of interest they show the opposite gender too. Being able to completely stop any behaviour that is causing you distress is key.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Had this happen a year or so ago...what was funny is that she initiated the phone number exchange. I called twice, second call she was busy but would call back. You can guess how that went.

    We worked together (different departments) and she came to the Xmas party. My boss introduced us, unaware we'd met, and I could just feel the eagerness for validation radiating from her. I took immense pleasure in ignoring her for the entire party, literally forgot she was there.

    She honestly seemed inexperienced with men, and thought that this was how you go about things.

    She was wrong.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Montresor View Post
    She honestly seemed inexperienced with men, and thought that this was how you go about things.

    She was wrong.
    Yep, in your case, that women you decided not to feed the ego of any longer was playing a game from that hard-to-get TRENDY manual in the best case scenario from a lame book for chicks called The Rules. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules

    Whenever a woman is playing hard-to-get, I walk.

    I am too middle aged and too much of a seasoned lover to put up with that crap. I just don't have time for that shit. (Though I always ALSO immediately walked at a much younger age than my current 41 years). I don't play THAT game at all! Never have and never will.

    What ends up happening is that I delete their number from my speed dial and I end up having fun with some better woman instead.

    Their loss, not mine.
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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    A woman's menstrual cycle is roughly 4 weeks.

    It's that simple.
    It's possible she just traded up - especially if you got her off an online dating site. We all know how hypergamy works.

    They will also flake for the smallest reasons, for example one woman who was very enthusiastic about meeting suddenly flaked on me a few weeks ago when I asked her what station she wanted to meet at. Then I suggested one without waiting for a reply and she never responded. I'm so used to this kind of crap from women I just laugh and shrug when it happens.
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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Anyway, I thought, "I've gotta winner, I think." So I waited like 5 days, calling on a Thursday, figuring she'd pick up or return my call. Anyway, 5 rings to voicemail and I left a message (something I don't do half the time). Just a brief one saying, "Hey, (female), it's Ace. Give me a call back."

    I used to make the same mistake,so here's what you do to correct it going forward.

    One-your exclusive goal is fucking her. Period.

    Not to converse,not to share ideas, not to compare movie notes over wine and condoms. Save your emotion and consideration for when you want to haggle on a car, or maybe your next trip to the DMV.

    As such, the first thing that has to go is the "5 day wait to call" business. Back when Michael J Fox was drifting Deloreans in Tinseltown that made sense-because said girl didn't have much to distract her from obsessing over you.

    Today ,I guarantee you the girl forgot who you were after four hours. Forget Facebook, Pinterest , etc.....every fuckable girls got at least three dudes on call. Primary Dude (the ATM), side fuck (the ex-boyfriend) , and Backup to Primary Dude (in case current ATM has technical difficulties disbursing funds).

    A lesson I had to learn the way you did Ace- you either fuck her in 24 hours or not at all. Get her number, tell her when you'll text her (like in an hour or two, calibrate to situation) and do so...slightly later. If you get dead air, move on.

    It ain't 1947. If a girl wants to fuck you shell move mountains to do it. If she wants a replacement ATM , that's when the shit tests and games begin. That is the path to ruin.

    Note-some guys are understandably skeptical about this last point ." Girls chasing dudes for sex wtfffff?!" Yes, audience, it happens all the time. Hardly advertised of course...but neither are Ferarris. The reason its not advertised is because female sexual preference is a binary thing.

    One, or zero. Yes or No. If she's attracted to you, you can roll in to the bar shirtless in pajamas and you'll get laid. If she's not ,you can show up in sharp clothes and spotless game and you'll only get dead air for a reward , or maybe a lame lay in the sack if your account balance impressed her enough .

    Of course, the crux of the relationshackle con is the idea that a woman's genuine attraction can be earned through works.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Octavian
    I used to make the same mistake,so here's what you do to correct it going forward.

    One-your exclusive goal is fucking her. Period.

    Not to converse,not to share ideas, not to compare movie notes over wine and condoms. Save your emotion and consideration for when you want to haggle on a car, or maybe your next trip to the DMV.


    As such, the first thing that has to go is the "5 day wait to call" business. Back when Michael J Fox was drifting Deloreans in Tinseltown that made sense-because said girl didn't have much to distract her from obsessing over you.

    Today ,I guarantee you the girl forgot who you were after four hours. Forget Facebook, Pinterest , etc.....every fuckable girls got at least three dudes on call. Primary Dude (the ATM), side fuck (the ex-boyfriend) , and Backup to Primary Dude (in case current ATM has technical difficulties disbursing funds).

    A lesson I had to learn the way you did Ace- you either fuck her in 24 hours or not at all. Get her number, tell her when you'll text her (like in an hour or two, calibrate to situation) and do so...slightly later. If you get dead air, move on.
    Damn, great point. At 41 the whole wait 3 or 5 days thing always used to work. But the last year or three, I suppose, not so much so. Not in most cases anyway

    It's not like I lost the average/decent looks I have or anything like that. This whole fuck-her-in-24 hours thing sounds more 21st century to me.

    By the way, that was a woman I picked up at a bus stop, not an internet dating site. Anyway, the next woman I get like that, I will say, "hey, wanna have a few drinks at my place" to. Instead of this perhaps antiquated "WAIT 3-5 days so that you do not seem DESPERATE" sort of system

    . Oh, and by the way, come to think of it, most of the women I slept the last few years (thanks to drugs I used to do making me hypersexual) with I sealed the deal within 24 hours.

    I think it is time to change the timing of my pick-up paradigm there. Food for thought, definitely.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Francis View Post
    Damn, great point. At 41 the whole wait 3 or 5 days thing always used to work. But the last year or three, I suppose, not so much so. Not in most cases anyway

    It's not like I lost the average/decent looks I have or anything like that. This whole fuck-her-in-24 hours thing sounds more 21st century to me.

    By the way, that was a woman I picked up at a bus stop, not an internet dating site. Anyway, the next woman I get like that, I will say, "hey, wanna have a few drinks at my place" to. Instead of this perhaps antiquated "WAIT 3-5 days so that you do not seem DESPERATE" sort of system

    . Oh, and by the way, come to think of it, most of the women I slept the last few years (thanks to drugs I used to do making me hypersexual) with I sealed the deal within 24 hours.

    I think it is time to change the timing of my pick-up paradigm there. Food for thought, definitely.
    Glad I could help.

    Its like the reality homicide show "The First 48" ...except we get 24 hours instead of 48 to close the deal . Some 'cases' we guys carnally close.Most we don't.

    Just the way of the world. File her in the "cold bitch" files and move on to the next one.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Dread game doesn't work if you haven't sealed the deal yet. And often dread game doesn't work even when you have already established a relationship early on, because as others have mentioned she has options. I have seen women post pictures on facebook with three different guys within less than five days after splitting with a boyfriend. LMAO

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    I needed all of this because I've failed these type of shit tests repeatedly and didnt even know it. I need to know these rules and live them, practicing saying 'NO' and being ready to move on. Thanks guys, after taking the red pill I see that I must learn and transform.

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Well, if we're going to practice thread necromancy, we may as well do it productively. Here's a piece on shit tests:
    http://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14...-encyclopedia/

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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Visvires View Post
    Well, if we're going to practice thread necromancy, we may as well do it productively. Here's a piece on shit tests:
    http://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14...-encyclopedia/
    Now THAT is a thorough article.
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    Re: When a new girl says "call me back" but does not answer the phone

    Quote Originally Posted by Visvires View Post
    Well, if we're going to practice thread necromancy, we may as well do it productively. Here's a piece on shit tests:
    http://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14...-encyclopedia/
    That is a very good article!


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