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    Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    There was this site which made the case saying that foreign women(especially from developing nations in Asia, South America etc) are better to marry than American women.



    http://www.nowife.com/why_foreign_women_are_better.html

    I see a mixed bag here. There are several scenarios here:

    1) American man marries foreign women overseas and brings her to US

    Some foreign women from developing countries who move to the US seem to live with their husbands atleast for a while. They might cook, clean and take of kids. But many of them get a green card, divorce and grab money from their husbands. Relatives from abroad use the woman to extract money from the guy.
    The risk here is that the law requires that you support the women for 10 years. She also slowly rots to adopt American woman culture.

    2) American man marries foreign women who is already settled here in US

    She is already rotting to US woman type. Many of them are indistinguishable from American women interms of attitude.

    3) American man marries foreign women and settles abroad

    Maybe best case scenario as the woman might retain her culture better but woman she prioritizes man after parents,brothers, relatives etc., Also man is considered a money source.

    What say you? Are foreign women from developing nations really better marriage material?

    PS: you could substitute "developed country/western country" for American women because they are similar
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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    I never trusted the foreign bride dream.

    Hasn't anyone ever heard of a green card chaser?

    Obviously you have, Czar, thus the obvious reason you point out the obvious perils in some guy just thinking that marrying abroad will insulate a man from classic female opportunism there.

    I can buy into number 3 on your list in your post. As long as the guy is not all but merely a glorified John (who is called a "husband") with what truly amounts to a lifetime financial subscription to his prostitute there. In that instance, I've gotta call that dude a SUCKER!

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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    This question has been asked on this forum a few times and my opinion on foreign women is this:

    They are definitely better marriage material than your average western woman.

    However, laws are now in place that will tear you to shreds if a divorce was to occur. Let's assume that you get a woman who loves you and who will hesitate before destroying you. Even if that were the case, bring her to America and 5 years in, she'll be indoctrinated as a typical western woman. Which means she is open to change. What happens next shouldn't be a surprise. Even if she stays loyal, the children you will have in the future will be brought up in this shittype atmosphere. Watch your children become rebellious and your daughters become what you strongly despised in women.

    A better option is to stay with her in her own country, but once there you will have to take care of her family because if she is traditonal minded, then that was something which came from her family. As long as you are rich, you will have a great life, your children will be better than the scum brought up in the west. Even if you are in that traditonal country, watch feminism and other laws taking place which slowly destroy the haven you reside in.

    Or you can forgo all of the above and focus to become self content. Marriage and raising children now is a massive risk. Wait until at least some power is transferred to men in these affairs and then choose to marry with less risk. Right now, it looks like marriage is a no brainer.

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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by czar View Post
    What say you? Are foreign women from developing nations really better marriage material?
    No.

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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    The way I see it, a common reason why foreign women may treat you better is because you are one of her limited opportunities for "a better life."

    Though in my own experience I would have to agree that in general, even professional women in countries that are not the west have treated me better than american women. Though one must always question the motive as to why.

    Think about this realistically, if a woman could grab a top tier man from her own country why would she go through the hassle of dating/marrying a foreigner?
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    Feminism and it's poisonous mantra has spread world wide. I think women from abroad are a bad risk. Not only are they privy to the special rights and privileges that feminism provides, but they often come with an agenda. Green card. Bring family here. Get out of whatever toilet they happen to be living in today...

    Myself, I think it's a bad idea. I can see why a man would want to go abroad to try and restore some balance in the mating arena, but when you're dealing with people who have a use for you, you have to acknowledge your're taking a big gamble.

    Women have been crying and whining that they are the bastions of love and commitment when they have proven they are more opportunistic and pragmatic when it comes to relationships than men will ever be. They're like birds... they'll stick around as long as they like the flavor (and quantity) of the feed, but fly away the minute their instincts tell them too.

    Guys... if you need sex return your bottles and go out and get laid. Pay for it and be done with it.

    Melding finances with any living female from ANYWHERE on the planet in 2015 is a game for fools.

    You might think you're improving your odds... well, who am I to tell anyone what to do.

    Instead, I'll just say "Good luck, you're gonna need it..."

    Oh, and bury a little money in the back yard every month. Insurance, you know...
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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free and Clear View Post
    The way I see it, a common reason why foreign women may treat you better is because you are one of her limited opportunities for "a better life."

    Though in my own experience I would have to agree that in general, even professional women in countries that are not the west have treated me better than american women. Though one must always question the motive as to why.

    Think about this realistically, if a woman could grab a top tier man from her own country why would she go through the hassle of dating/marrying a foreigner?
    Many are simply after one thing: landed status in a prosperous country. Marriage is one way of getting inside, but to ensure that they are allowed to stay there, they have an anchor baby. After that, their stay is guaranteed. The kid is automatically a citizen if the mother gives birth inside the border--that's the law. She, however, will get to stay because someone has to look after the kid, not to mention the negative publicity if her pending deportation was to be reported by the news media.
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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    Feminism and it's poisonous mantra has spread world wide. I think women from abroad are a bad risk. Not only are they privy to the special rights and privileges that feminism provides, but they often come with an agenda. Green card. Bring family here. Get out of whatever toilet they happen to be living in today...

    Myself, I think it's a bad idea. I can see why a man would want to go abroad to try and restore some balance in the mating arena, but when you're dealing with people who have a use for you, you have to acknowledge your're taking a big gamble.

    Women have been crying and whining that they are the bastions of love and commitment when they have proven they are more opportunistic and pragmatic when it comes to relationships than men will ever be. They're like birds... they'll stick around as long as they like the flavor (and quantity) of the feed, but fly away the minute their instincts tell them too.

    Guys... if you need sex return your bottles and go out and get laid. Pay for it and be done with it.

    Melding finances with any living female from ANYWHERE on the planet in 2015 is a game for fools.

    You might think you're improving your odds... well, who am I to tell anyone what to do.

    Instead, I'll just say "Good luck, you're gonna need it..."

    Oh, and bury a little money in the back yard every month. Insurance, you know...
    Look up the documentary My Thai Bride. It was shown on what used to be called CBC Newsworld a few years ago and it showed what happened to a Brit who have up his life in the U. K. and settled with someone he met in Thailand. It wasn't quite what he had in mind.....
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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quarter Wave Vertical View Post
    Look up the documentary My Thai Bride. It was shown on what used to be called CBC Newsworld a few years ago and it showed what happened to a Brit who have up his life in the U. K. and settled with someone he met in Thailand. It wasn't quite what he had in mind.....
    Another good read is Private Dancer, by Stephen Leather - it's set in Bangkok, and it's a chilling and eye-opening story. The Stickman Bangkok website recommended this one, years ago; now it's available on Pattaya Pages - another good source about "love" and its risks in Thailand:

    http://www.pattayapages.com/girls/im...ate-dancer.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by czar View Post
    3) American man marries foreign women and settles abroad

    Maybe best case scenario as the woman might retain her culture better but woman she prioritizes man after parents,brothers, relatives etc.,
    This was my experience. The parents, sister and nephew came before me all of the time. When the parents died it was still the sister and nephew even though they would do NOTHING to help my EX.

    Foreign women may be better marriage material FOR A WHILE, but eventually you will face the same sh*t as men who marry American women.





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    1. Never sign a contract of marriage.
    2. Never co-habitate with a woman.
    3. Never impregnate a woman.

    Anytime a man violates any of the above three rules he places his freedom and financial stability in extreme peril....... regardless of who the woman is or where she came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrug the Script View Post
    This was my experience. The parents, sister and nephew came before me all of the time. When the parents died it was still the sister and nephew even though they would do NOTHING to help my EX.

    Foreign women may be better marriage material FOR A WHILE, but eventually you will face the same sh*t as men who marry American women.
    That was one of the points made in the documentary My Thai Bride, which I mentioned earlier. The poor punter simply became a means to an end for his wife after he married her and was left with very little.
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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by goldey View Post
    … bring her to America and 5 years in, she'll be indoctrinated as a typical western woman
    More importantly, 5 years in her biology will kick in and the idea of having sex with you will physically repulse her.

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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    While I talked of why I am too skeptical of this foreign bride idea, I must cover the other side of the coin.

    Did you ever hear of "medical tourism" where Americans go to other parts of the world for better prices or services for major surgeries?

    I'd love to see Dating/Relationship Tourism become a big sensation in the next decade. Though I would not opt for it myself, it serve the spoiled self-overrated western Anglo females right!

    Without naming names, I like reading how some men (not me) on this forum will take their P4P dollars to Asia instead of the states. (Instead of "where have all the good men gone?," imagine "where have all the CASH COWS gone?!").

    There is another guy on this forum who talks about the dirty looks he gets from middle-aged women his age for having an Asian bride in her 20s. Ha HAAA...I love reading that! It serves justice right back at those middle-aged hags who priced themselves out of the dating market. ("WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE?! Waaah...poor wittle me...it's ALL about MEEEE!")

    Now for me, personally, nowadays I only care females with European ancestory like myself. Yet I'd love to see it all burn-baby-burn so badly that those deluded cunts have to look at the mirror and realize they scared off their male brethren by overreacting on demands and all.'

    If one wants to do the Happier Abroad thing, it can be another counterpunch to the anti-male/spoiled princesses of the world. While it is not for me, in better case scenarios it sends a loud and clear message that men are gonna be shopping elsewhere for love for the western women overplaying their hand. It's like karma without the karma ferry. Instead just a reaction to a WAY too cocky-ass wannabe infallible stance of the deluded overly demanding western woman out there.

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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free and Clear View Post
    The way I see it, a common reason why foreign women may treat you better is because you are one of her limited opportunities for "a better life."

    Though in my own experience I would have to agree that in general, even professional women in countries that are not the west have treated me better than american women. Though one must always question the motive as to why.

    Think about this realistically, if a woman could grab a top tier man from her own country why would she go through the hassle of dating/marrying a foreigner?
    She is from the small town where men die before they reach they mid twenties from drinking antifreeze .

    Foreigners are seen as naive teddy bears . Even here on this forum where all the guys from USA or Can are highly intelligent but still so sweet and innocent
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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    In my observation, foreign women are better. Their femininity is imbued in their personality and character; it is the result of a consistent culture that reinforces the way to be a lady. This is part of their identity. They listen more to the husband, many of them have a deep and abiding love and respect for men (I can't speak enough about how essential this is for a loving partner); on top of this is a focus on committing to the man she decides to spend the rest of her life with. Western culture is everywhere but in many countries, it is background noise to the dominant culture.

    For whatever reason, I just have horror stories of my friends who married in the US. Too many divorces to even keep track of. Those I know who married overseas and stayed overseas, I see something else. Not pure bliss, but something that works. A friend of mine married a girl in the Phillipines. Yeah, he complains about some stuff but I see the way he and his wife interact; the gender roles are understood. From that basic starting point, a meaningful, complementary relationship between man and woman is possible. This guy is pretty honest with me and it seems when they fight, it's not what we would call a fight; she knows its her role to take care of the kids and home- to make sure the kids respect their Dad. Of course there are horror stories of things going seriously wrong when American marry abroad- that's what happens when you have some 6+ billion people on the planet; but I'm going off what I've observed. But how many want to leave their home country? That's a question one has to answer.

    For friends who've married someone from overseas and she came here, it's more of a mixed bag but I would still say it's far preferable to marrying someone from here. There is a very reasonable chance she will be taken up by our culture and change. I have seen some wonderful relationships from women from Eastern Europe, China, India, from Africa.

    Marriage for the laws that we have would seem to me to be a mistake. But everyone has their own goals, but to your question, yes, my view is that foreign are better, in some cases night and day different than American women.

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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    J'accuse!!!

    (Okay, I'm - - mostly - - joking, you're not really arguing FOR marriage, jagrmeister.)

    Still, the question seems to me like asking where being an indentured servant is better in another country...the differnece is degree, not type.
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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    Another good read is Private Dancer, by Stephen Leather - it's set in Bangkok, and it's a chilling and eye-opening story. The Stickman Bangkok website recommended this one, years ago; now it's available on Pattaya Pages - another good source about "love" and its risks in Thailand:

    http://www.pattayapages.com/girls/im...ate-dancer.pdf
    I downloaded the file and started reading it last night. I haven't got very far into the story yet and already one can tell that the main character's heading for trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    Another good read is Private Dancer, by Stephen Leather - it's set in Bangkok, and it's a chilling and eye-opening story. The Stickman Bangkok website recommended this one, years ago; now it's available on Pattaya Pages - another good source about "love" and its risks in Thailand:

    http://www.pattayapages.com/girls/im...ate-dancer.pdf
    This is an excellent reference and it is available on Kindle as well (very cheap).

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    Re: Are foreign women better than US women for marriage?

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    1. Never sign a contract of marriage.
    2. Never co-habitate with a woman.
    3. Never impregnate a woman.

    Anytime a man violates any of the above three rules he places his freedom and financial stability in extreme peril....... regardless of who the woman is or where she came from.
    Truer words were never spoken, but sometimes you make a bet if the odds slightly favor you, and the reward is worth it to you. Some men want a family more than anything in the world. They want what they want. It is good advice for these men to shop overseas for a wife because all the statistical studies done confirm that the divorce rate is much, much, lower for American (western) men marrying women from less developed/more traditional countries. The USCIS studies show about a 20% divorce risk (lifetime) as supported by census data and studies. The Swiss did a study of Swiss men married to foreign women (mostly eastern European) and got the same result, 20% divorce risk. Interestingly the Swiss study included Swiss women married to foreign men. The divorce rate for these (probably resulting from "romance" travel) was in the upper 90% range.

    If you are going to go to the casino you should study where are your best odds.


    P.S . All these studies were of western men who brought the foreign woman back to their country in the west. I assume on anecdotal evidence that your odds are even better if you move to her country.


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