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    Are women starting to approach?

    I remember Octavian saying that women will start to approach some day and slowly, but surely I think it is starting to happen, at least for me.

    Four of my six last tinder matches has initiated a conversation with me. None of them were troll accounts as far as I can see. One of them asked me out on a date.

    In real life it still happens much less, but in clubs when I am sitting or dancing alone it starts to happen. When a girl is drunk enough she will even approach and initiate sexual contact right off the bat.

    All steps of the courtship process from approaching to sex have been initiated by girls to me in the last six months.

    If these things can happen to me so regularly (while I am pretty passive), when they did not happen a year ago (when I was also passive), I honestly think the game is changing. Has anyone else noticed a change in the last few months?

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    In the last 10 yrs I have noticed women pre-dominantely going for good looking men over 'alphas'. I know a guy who runs nightclub security for a huge nightclub. He is 6 foot 6 and isn't afraid of anyone. I would call him an alpha based on a strong caveman persona. He gets zero female attention though because he isn't blessed in the looks department. I think women are being conditioned to reject alphas. It goes with the new world order agenda or 'operation the west into Japan'

    Have you lost weight recently or started smiling more? Women approach good looking smiling men or initiate a conversation when you appear happy. Recently, the only initiations I have had are

    1. A girl threw a drink at a couple and then tried to blame me for it. You could consider that a social test to see what I was like under pressure. I just ignored it as I knew what she was doing and anyone who does that isn't worth meeting.

    I would like to see a social experiment where people do speed dating blind folded. Then without telling them 1 month later arrange for them to meet the same people in different orders without blind folded. I would like to see if looks played a part. I think this kind of experiment would really open peoples eyes to the fake alpha theory and how much women only consider looks. Think about it, why would a woman need to settle for average when she can just sign up to a dating site and get mr 8-9? The game has certainly changed for below average women and average guys.

    For me, this was the nail in the coffin to fully abandoning the female species. The poisonus spreading of Feminism has just made women that much tougher skinned that they are not worth knowing unless you're paying to fuck.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    well.. I'll say this much...
    if women still subscribe to the notion that a man has to "do all the work" in the relationship dance, I got just 5 words to say about that:
    "Welcome to the Twenty-First Century."
    (I mean, if women want "equality".. they have to assume some of the responsibilities that come with those "equal rights"...)
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    I had a date (dumpster fire) the other night which came from Tinder, where the girl had initiated the conversation. When she initiated the conversation over Tinder, I made it very clear to her that nothing long term was going to come out of this and it was just a night out, maybe sex, and then done. We met somewhere and I drove her to campus and we hung out for a bit and had sex a few times. When the night was over we had planned on going back to where we had met and parting ways. When I said that it was probably time to go ahead and do that. She immediately crumpled to the ground and began crying all over my bed refusing to leave. I had to get a friend of mine to act like an RA and almost forcibly remove her. It was insane, and reminded me that you have to be very careful with all of them, but I would say that some of the ones who initiate are going to be even more crazy.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    I can't tell but I haven't been to a nightclub or party in forever so that might be why (no tinder either, no smartphone). A lot of college women seem like hermits to me with their phone addictions, but I have had more women being nice to me lately sure. Not flirting or approaching, but generally trying to put on a facade of friendliness and whatever. Going out of their way to act interested, laugh at everything I say, sometimes sexual innuendo but not really flirting. I don't think they're trying to approach me, Idk what it is. I get the vibe that there is attraction sometimes, but they never mention it.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    The approaching continually increases when you reach your 30's by women and doesn't slow down from there either. It is not just women but your employers will take you more seriously in your professional field compared to your mid 20's. Most men don't reach a mastery in their profession till their 40's, 50's or even 60's.

    Women approaching men is heavily correlated with their declining options as they age.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Women approaching men is heavily correlated with their declining options as they age.
    Absolutely, they're worried about being left on the shelf whilst at the same time a mens sexual urge diminishes , so it makes them even more interested because you have more of a care free attitude and in return show more disinterest.

    I recall an old saying....women are like dog turds, the older they get the easier they are to pick up.

    BTW that doesn't mean I go picking dog turds up, and neither do I recommend doing so, lol
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Women who initiate first always get way too clingy way too fast in my experience. There's always something fucked up about them, some traumatic breakup experience, some ex they never got over or someone they're trying to get back at.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    The thing is I'm seeing this in girls my age (21), I understand that running out of time concept but at the same time I'm seeing it from both sides. It's strange and as time goes on I'll probably have a theory about it.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRecipe View Post
    Women who initiate first always get way too clingy way too fast in my experience. There's always something fucked up about them, some traumatic breakup experience, some ex they never got over or someone they're trying to get back at.
    Different strokes for different folks.


    I'd say...if a woman (who looks decent) approaches, take it! You can handle disengaging them if it turns out to be more trouble than it's worth. It's not like they'll hang you for it! It would take months, half a year or a season at least plus, for the "hath no fury like that of a woman scorned" thing to occur anyway. And that be the worst case scenario anyhow.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by CDayT12A View Post
    The thing is I'm seeing this in girls my age (21), I understand that running out of time concept but at the same time I'm seeing it from both sides. It's strange and as time goes on I'll probably have a theory about it.
    It isn't strange as it can happen. Just as always be alert and recognize the red flags when they go up. Red flags are harder to notice with younger women because they have not been jaded by the wall yet or the cock carousel. But younger women also lose interest faster, so you are going to have to recognize when it is over.

    Just be smart and enjoy the time you have currently.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    But younger women also lose interest faster, so you are going to have to recognize when it is over. Just be smart and enjoy the time you have currently.
    For now our goals are lining up which makes it easy. I've been on a sort of ONS kick lately after the rough breakup I had, so it's doing fine there has been some unfortunate ones but there has also been some really fun nights and good sex so I'm taking the mostly positives as they come. The minute I see a red flag I'm out though, which is something I'm proud of myself for so far.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by CDayT12A View Post
    but I would say that some of the ones who initiate are going to be even more crazy.
    That ^ It's worth repeating.
    I have concluded that there are many different reasons that they may approach (initiate) , so never assume anything.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    The approaching continually increases when you reach your 30's by women and doesn't slow down from there either. It is not just women but your employers will take you more seriously in your professional field compared to your mid 20's. Most men don't reach a mastery in their profession till their 40's, 50's or even 60's.

    Women approaching men is heavily correlated with their declining options as they age.
    Agreed! But aging is only one of the things that limits their "options" , and many (most?) are in denial regarding their aging-looks. So, my point: They still won't approach; They will still play coy games; Doing otherwise undermines their status (which is one of the primary reasons they want to be wanted) & negotiation power.

    In fact I was "half" approached by one just recently. In the end she was very independent, and what a body! I liked both those things about her a lot. Anyway, we had a thing going, 3x a week, for 7+ weeks,, and then she said something that really scared the shit out of me, so I did a 180, and my best to appear weak-kneed & without strengthen: within days she broke it off cleanly. (my point: Even the "strong ones" prefer a Strong Leader Type.)
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    To answer the OP:
    .. Yes, from my perspective: Women are approaching me more now than anytime in my distance past. Even ones far younger than me.
    ..... BUT: I was not nearly so approachable in my distance past (i was way-way to busy, and rarely would give women more than a passing nod, literally.)
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Why're looking for a woman to approach you? You must have developed dislike towards women because they reject you most of the time. Why do you value yourself by number of women who likes you. Here's the thing. You got to rethink about yourself! If you're confident or sweet at talking or handsome or money maker or a guy with strong career, no matter how you're, you'll always find a woman to have sex with. But if you value yourself based on brainwash that exists in society, you'll be a slave to a woman's needs.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    @Nuggets Hi.. I gave my Intro long time back.. Let me check the link and post it for you!

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    My mistake. We've had a bunch of bad intros lately and I was jumping the gun
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    No problem.. I saw the intros and they're not cool..!


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