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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by chbedok View Post
    I was at a nightclub once when a girl approached me and said her friend liked me. Of course, I stood up like a 'gentleman' and put my phone away to give the girl my attention. The conversation went nowhere, and so I went off to have my own fun.

    Dancing by my own, two different girls approached to dance with me, one of them was with another guy.

    One can only be an alpha if one actually interacts in a situation where that applies. and in that situation, an alpha is a mindset rather than physicality. Having looks help, but if you can't assert yourself, looks won't help.

    Your friend may have been a 6'6 man amongst men, but perhaps he is on the clock instead of actively socializing, which is why girls don't give him attention.

    In any case, I don't think women are being conditioned to reject alphas, their instincts seem too strong for that. However, alphas are more than just the physicality, I think. Its also their mindset, the 'honey badger' mentality that marks them out. And honey badger has no fucks to give.

    If you believe that women have strong instincts for alphas, than tell me why your regular alpha cannot secure 100% of women? If he is an alpha by definition, than technically he can get all of the women consistently if he tried.

    As we know, this is not the case. As women have all of their own 'tastes' and 'likes'. However, this simply comes down to 'Looks'. What you say just doesn't ring true to what I have personally experienced and what I have experienced in other men. If women just wanted alphas, than why have my weak willed /unconfident good looking friends secured girlfriends in their teens and early twenties?

    Times have changed since the year 2003. Back then, the feminist movement were not at a war with other men so hard as they are today. Women are more 'protected' and 'hugged' by the government nowadays. Women feel more safer and no longer have any need for an 'alpha'. So as a result, women have simply turned to good looking men to satisfy their hamsters.

    If it was all about 'alpha men' then why are only good looking men successful on tinder? Are you saying only good looking men are alphas? I know plenty of good looking unconfident men who secure a mad mass of pussy.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    A woman at work asked me 'Are you planning to go somewhere this weekend?' to which I replied..
    'Why, do I have to go somewhere on the weekend?'
    I went ahead and tried this tactic once, and I can tell you it is NOT a good idea.

    The best that can be said for it is that: It leaves them hanging, and perhaps "eggs them on" to try more forceful tactics w you. Do you want that?

    But what happened to me is: They are HATING you, stabbing you, and labeling you behind your back.

    Weeks later, after I tried this tactic, a forceful BetaMaleServingCunt (who believes himself to be Alpha- HA! 6'4" 220lbs) called me an asshole to my face in front of others- specifically for using this tactic.

    I told him a less than polite joke (about ugly women) as a response. Then told him sarcasm is my best friend when dealing w idiots. (sarcasm w her, and then again w him.)

    He didnt get it, *at all* He was too worked up over my "transgression" against the gynocentric "social contract" requiring total protection of women's emotional state (regardless of how HORRIDLY behaved)... even if if cost me my own personal honor & dignity. FUK THAT!

    White Knight Clucks are EVERYWHERE -- and these women will use whatever force they can against you. Including HR dept.

    shrug from my end--- they can all kiss my ass. I went Galt for a reason. And this is just icing on the cake.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShogunRonin View Post
    If you believe that women have strong instincts for alphas, than tell me why your regular alpha cannot secure 100% of women? If he is an alpha by definition, than technically he can get all of the women consistently if he tried.

    As we know, this is not the case. As women have all of their own 'tastes' and 'likes'. However, this simply comes down to 'Looks'. What you say just doesn't ring true to what I have personally experienced and what I have experienced in other men. If women just wanted alphas, than why have my weak willed /unconfident good looking friends secured girlfriends in their teens and early twenties?

    Times have changed since the year 2003. Back then, the feminist movement were not at a war with other men so hard as they are today. Women are more 'protected' and 'hugged' by the government nowadays. Women feel more safer and no longer have any need for an 'alpha'. So as a result, women have simply turned to good looking men to satisfy their hamsters.

    If it was all about 'alpha men' then why are only good looking men successful on tinder? Are you saying only good looking men are alphas? I know plenty of good looking unconfident men who secure a mad mass of pussy.
    Being Alpha does not mean you will 'definitely' get a girl; it just means you're qualified to roll with the high players at the big table in the casino.

    The term 'Alpha', applies differently to humans in general because unlike animals, men do not need to actively fight to secure their dominance and power. In human society, power could range from the physical (strength/looks), to the metaphysical (charisma, money). Therefore, an Alpha isn't the biggest, most confident man, all the time; But the 'Alpha' definitely is at the top of the 'pyramid,' as it were, and eligible to compete for a woman's affections; either by looks, money, or power.

    If it were all about looks, Hugh Hefner, Bill Cosby, or Trump, would not have a woman at their sides. Looks is merely one of the easier ways to be 'Alpha.' If you're born with it, it's all a matter of maintaining your appearance, but things like money and charisma are more substantial and effective in the wider picture despite being difficult to achieve. Which is why good-looking men can ONLY succeed on Tinder, compared to someone like Hugh Hefner and his mansion of bunnies.

    However, being 'Alpha' only matters if you are willing to compete with other men, which necessitates a social element to the whole equation of power; to be seen, and compared to others and judged accordingly. With looks alone, Tinder is the ONLY place the people you know can succeed. Tinder, and Highschool, because in both these places, appearances are the things that others judge you on.

    But if these men you know were to try other places where the people are of a higher class/caliber of people who judge beyond looks, I would think they would be out of their depths.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    You guys do understand that there "can be only one" alpha in the room at a time, Right?

    And, as feminism has appointed the Government so much POWER, and they can be there w just a phone call--- YOU are NEVER truly "Alpha"

    Again, in the Dating game, in the Status game, in the I am my own Man game: You are NOT Alpha, unless it is a figment of your and her imagination... and then it is highly transitory.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    I went ahead and tried this tactic once, and I can tell you it is NOT a good idea.
    Yes, indeed sir. I understand what you mean. In hindsight, it may not have been an appropriate response. But at the time, I felt it was necessary to get her off my back. Now, I could have been more sophisticated about it, but sometimes you need to be firm, and then think about how to deal with the negative consequences afterwards.

    As an example, you could pretend to be gay at times if the women gets angry at you. That way people won't know how to interpret you.
    Or pretend like you already have a girlfriend outside of work; or pretend to be a playboy who has many women after him.

    The best that can be said for it is that: It leaves them hanging, and perhaps "eggs them on" to try more forceful tactics w you. Do you want that?
    When I said that, she was really surprised, like you say 'hanging' is a very suitable word. But women leave men hanging all the time, since childhood, our mothers have always left us hanging, in the dark with regards to female manipulation.

    You grow up, and go out here and there, and no women is ever clear with you. Flaking on dates with excuses like 'my grandma is ill' 'I have my period'.

    Some may say, why not just be honest and tell the women 'I'm not interested'. Well, that is one option. But as men, we have a right to other options. Honesty doesn't have to be a priority for us. If you yourself feel honest is genuinely the best policy; then that is an option for you. But you have to realise as men, we have a right to be vague, to be unclear and to choose the way we respond.

    Vagueness is not only a right for the female; we have that right as well. We have options, we can choose, we can decide how to respond in a gynocracy that has its' sights set on using men and discarding them away once they outlive their use; yes just like an object; just like a tampon.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Yes, indeed sir. I understand what you mean. In hindsight, it may not have been an appropriate response.

    Vagueness is not only a right for the female; we have that right as well. We have options, we can choose, we can decide how to respond in a gynocracy that has its' sights set on using men and discarding them away once they outlive their use; yes just like an object; just like a tampon.

    Whatever you feel is right is most likely the way to go.

    Saying (whether it is true or not) : "I'm seeing someone" is pretty safe (considering other options, like saying youre Gay, and it's possible ramifications.)

    Point in FACT: Your life is none of their FUCKING business.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    And, as feminism has appointed the Government so much POWER, and they can be there w just a phone call--- YOU are NEVER truly "Alpha"
    Exactly, this is why PUA-ing and white Knighting has its' limits - the state being the alpha. The state backs and supports female manipulation of the male gender with gynocentric laws being the clearest evidence. And actually, this state is mainly made up of men; so now we know who is really oppressing men. It is other men, more so than women themselves!!

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Exactly, this is why PUA-ing and white Knighting has its' limits - the state being the alpha. The state backs and supports female manipulation of the male gender with gynocentric laws being the clearest evidence. And actually, this state is mainly made up of men; so now we know who is really oppressing men. It is other men, more so than women themselves!!
    I've often said much the same, but w differing emphasis.

    We can not forget that the "State" is the Weapon. Furthermore: we shouldnt forget that it is a "nuclear power" (figuratively, not literally) BUT, it wont "feel" figurative when your life is crumbing under the all that POWER (that does the bidding of women.)

    Sadly Justice is no longer "blind" as it was designed to be.... It is clearly: Institutionalized Gynocentrism. And it is wildly gynocentric, in all regards, at every level.

    Now: Who is wielding that weapon? The enemy? A fickle enemy? A whimsical enemy? A female, clearly. Beyond that we can't know: until you are blind-folded and the barrels of the firing squad are pointed at you.

    But what I do know is that that "enemy" is NOT Sugar & Spice & everything Nice.

    Women:
    - Egocentric: check. Irrational: check. Petty: check. Selfish: check. Shallow: check. Insecure: check. Sexually self-assured: maybe yes, maybe no, maybe she doesn't recall if she actually said no, or if it is "morning regret" for giving the "signals" she gave in a state of NEED.
    - Honorable: You HOPE!! Hard-working: Nope. Self sufficient: Nope. Independent: Nope. Wise: Nope. Dependent on Wine: YES! Dependent on Cats: YES!

    Sorry. I dont know where I was going w all that "defining women" crap. Clearly women are people. The question remains: Is the one you are dealing with: is she a rational Human, or is she a superstitious, irrational, "creature"

    Women that "approach" may (may) actually be showing their true colors. When they don't "approach" it gives them the opportunity to follow your lead, "play along" rather than exposing themselves.

    Regardless: you may NEVER learn who they are til the day comes when they are twisting the knife (legal system) in your back, and dancing w glee.

    That said: the BEST (and worse) relationships I have had are w women that did "approach" &/or did have "significant skin in the game"

    ........... Your mileage may vary ...........
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    My dad is a classic beta. My uncle has game but he fits your description above. The unsolicited advice I get from him about dating probably worked in the 60s and 70s, but not anymore. I've gotten so used to women making everything a shit test that it gives me a headache to even think about. And that's not even taking modern dangers into account, when it's 100% accepted for any given aspect of society to be viciously anti-male.
    just noticed this...
    but yeah.. what passed as "normal" dating behavior then.. it would get me 6 months to 5 years now...
    what burns me though.... they refuse to realize that their "advice" is obsolete...
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    I just reviewed what Nugget said about women and shit-tests, and he is right.
    Particularly if the woman has the balls to approach.

    Then again: It seems to me that women get excited over shit tests.
    Perhaps they assume you are not interested if you are not shit testing them?
    Is this a measurement of how DISHONORABLE they are? Sheeze! It is. Almost certainly!

    This last part is probably covered in some PUA manual, somewhere. i dunno.
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hesiod View Post
    Absolutely, they're worried about being left on the shelf whilst at the same time a mens sexual urge diminishes , so it makes them even more interested because you have more of a care free attitude and in return show more disinterest.

    I recall an old saying....women are like dog turds, the older they get the easier they are to pick up.

    BTW that doesn't mean I go picking dog turds up, and neither do I recommend doing so, lol
    Lol, that's hilarious, in Australia the council passed the law at least in the city, anyone with dogs on the street or parks has to pick up there doggie turds in a plastic bag and bin it. It is funny as hell watching it all go on, makes me glad I got no bitch and bitch.

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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    I like dogs. No, I LOVE dogs. And I wouldnt shit in my neighbor's yard, so why wouldnt I clean up after my own dog?
    Ive been cleaning up my own dog's poo LONNNNNNG before there were any regulations on the matter.

    When somebody else's dog poos in my yard, and they dont clean it up, I consider that person uncivilized (the entire time that I use a shovel to pitch the poo into the bushes, and then I'm over even that minor feeling.)
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    Re: Are women starting to approach?

    Are women aroaching? Resounding answer: YES.

    I like women - but the way our legal system is structured it is VERY difficult to trust them. Particularly because women are so whimsical w the POWER they have at their beckon call.

    Thus, it almost DEMANDS that they approach. That is if they want interaction with any SANE, RATIONAL, & not SELF-DESTRUCTIVE male. (because only an idiot would throw themselves in front of a freight train called the legal system &/or SJWs)

    Which brings me to my preamble: Met a chick off Bumble (where the females are required to make the first move) , and we met at a public place for drinks. First meet was also at a public place for java, where I made it clear I was NOT buying. Anyway, watching the quaint live music (excellent btw) she gets up to buy us a couple beers.

    Which brings me to my point: What happens next is STELLAR (what millions of men have experienced when THEY walk away to pick up drinks, spending money on their date)

    A woman with her "wingwoman" starts hitting on me , and there is LITERALLY nothing my date can do to stop it.

    In closing I will add I was wondering what would happen, how civil my date would be, so I engaged lightly w both ladies (yes, they were civil even though they were dressed quite sexy.)

    Things ended quite well, they dis-engaged, I when home w my date, and a short term relationship formed.

    I was happy that the relationship ended, and the manner with which it ended. We remain friends as we got along so VERY well, but: 1) she has issues w me (namely she is Richer than I am, and she doesnt consider Stock trading a source of income. (this is just one more proof that even Rich women are stupid about money.)) 2) She is not sex-driven enough for me, and defaults to stupid comments meant to shame or blame me towards her limited (narrow minded, not frigid) ways in the sack.
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