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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    Okay, pardon me if I'm gloating. But after some encouragement from web-pals on a different-purpose board, I have just booked myself an awesome MGTOW vacation: Two weeks in the Philippines, diving the WW II wrecks in Subic Bay during the day and sampling the exotic delights of Barrio Barreiro and Angeles City during the nights.
    Congratulations on booking the vacation! I am curious what delights you will encounter there..

    As for me, I have been busy cleaning as a buddy is coming over for a few days -- one of those recently turned single. I've also been enjoying the neighbor's absence by playing some Black Sabbath on my trusty old harmonica.. Now to get some scotch so that my old friend may forget the pain of past days and have some fun!
    And when her lips so sweetly move
    The soul such height attain,
    You're free, yet would no longer rove
    But lay you down in chains.

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Well .. took a road trip to slovenia this week to settle some technical problems.

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    On the way home I had a meeting with a customer in carinthia so I decided to book a room in one of my favorite and family run hotels where I had excellent dinner in the evening and breakfast in the morning and as usual they gave me a room with balcony and ash-tray.

    Taking a smoke while enjoying the early morning sun break trough ...
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    On the way home i decided that the rainy weather meant that there was no hurry to tend my garden .. so i entered "shortest route" and "use unpaved roads" into my Sat-Nav and went for exploration of the alps on my way home, which allowed me to travel some nice and scenic routes trough "nowhere land"

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    Best thing:

    NOT ONCE did anybody call me where i was, where I was going or when I would return home.

    MGTOW ?
    PRICELESS !

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Beautiful views. Something to certainly enjoy!

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Some highlights from my past couple of weeks -

    August 24-27 I went out alone on my sailboat. Had a destination in mind, but I got a late start and I decided on someplace not so far. I still didn't get there till after dark - and after some fast-and-furious night sailing that was a definite thrill. I spent two nights at anchor, and one at a marina that's attached to an elegant inn at Rock Hall, MD ... while I was in town, I visited Salt Yachts and got a good look at a Pearson 365 they have for sale - a 36-foot sloop (one mast) that could be a great candidate for "my next love." (Don't tell Halcyon, she'll get jealous. )



    When I got back, I 'pulled the trigger' on a new toy that's been tempting me - one of those "mega zoom" cameras. What I got is a Nikon Coolpix P510, a camera that made Imaging Resource's "Dave's Picks" list a couple of years ago ... 44x zoom (equivalent to 24-1000 mm on a 35mm camera, remember those?), squint-through viewfinder along with an articulated camera-back display, fabulous lens and of course it is a Nikon. (I got it used, Nikon-reconditioned, and paid a bit more than $200 rather than get a new equivalent for $500. Some ways I'm a cheapskate.) Ordered it Thursday, and it arrived Tuesday afternoon.

    Wednesday I went to the boat for a couple of days and nights out ... a few of us guys rafted our boats together Wednesday evening, in a good-sized cove surrounded by Smithsonian Institution lands, and hung out and drank rum (not too much) and generally had a good ol' gab session. Ate supper on the hook and turned in fairly late; the next morning we broke up, and while the other guys headed for the dock I headed for the Bay. Spent the morning and afternoon sailing, out to the Eastern shore, up by Annapolis, and finally home to my marina where I had supper at the dock and relaxed in my solitude.

    Oh, and I just had to try my new toy out, on the Moon ... I was pleased with the results.



    (This is full-frame, hand-held, 1/125 second. Remember, the moon is in full sunlight.)



    This is close-cropped, full-resolution - I'm using 4-megapixel (2272x1704) mode on my camera, because that's close to the lens' native resolution. I am quite pleased indeed!)

    Yesterday, I had a look at a sister-ship of that lovely new candidate for my affections, at a nearby marina. The price was a little better on this one, a Pearson 365 ketch named "Lovely Lady." She certainly fell way below that level ... privately, in my mind, I was calling her "Scruffy Slattern," but I didn't say that to the broker. Twenty-year-old sails, rotten canvas-work (like sail-covers, cockpit cushions and the spray-hood over the front of the cockpit), general neglect up topside; the cabin was like an unmade bed ... what a mess! And stuff not working, like the refrigerator that was full of empty dried-out ice bags, and the boxes of cereal and stuff left in the cabin stores ... Thanks, but no thanks.



    (You can see the condition of the mizzen sail-cover and sail here. Plus I'd need new winches and they're about $1400 each.)

    So, those are some components of my MGTOW life. (And oh, I've had second thoughts on getting the larger boat, till next year anyways.)
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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Excellence in MGTOW - Great stuff guys - Gotta Love it!!
    If misery loves company; Happiness requires Bachelorhood

    p.s. i resent being a "senior member" - I'm not that old, or am I?

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    I did something similar when driving through western US. Anyone who says that the world is overcrowded has never visted places like Ely or Eureka Nevada.

    Somedays you just need to hit the road.

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    And of course somedays you just need to cut loose with some good friends.

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    If she isn't fucking you like a porn star she is fucking someone else like one.

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Well .. time for a little update on the good MGTOW life
    Sorry ... the boring live of a lonely basement dweller

    Used the first spring weekend where the weather was kinda nice for making some ribs and top it of with a nice cigar after pruning trees for 2 days.


    I am an avid gardener, my garden is huge and like a park, this year it needed some new bark-mulch (40 cubic meters..) which also was my fitness exercise for 3 weekends.



    Planted some flowery stuff at the south entry gate.


    My office got renovated and added with 2 40" Ultra-HD displays and to top it off .. finally air-condition, this is where a MGTOW makes his money


    Bought the stuff for doing my own bird-breeding ...


    The first ever duckling I bred on my own .. more to follow


    But was outnumbered in breeding success by mother nature ... with her 11 ducklings


    Built a cage for quails ...



    And had my first little quail egg


    Also started a little Escargot farm in my garden


    Went "Guerilla Gardening" and planted Topanimpur in illegal places for thrills


    Bought a new car (car Nr. 3...)


    And this week will be spent in Finnland (never been there before) .. all paid for by my company
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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Holy shit.

    I'm jealous.

    You know I just remembered something I had realized long ago. That getting divorced was the best thing that ever happened to me.

    That's the only way to have this kind of life, that you're seeing here, boats and cars and chilling in Slovenia, etc.

    See

    - You don't have to avoid women, you can deal with them in whatever mode you please (game, p4p, fwb, whatever)
    - You don't have to be childless, just be aware CS is gonna cost you, or who knows you might win custody (or you can use a surrogate)
    - You don't have to miss out on having family and friends and close personal relationships

    The #1 "buff" in life is not having a bitch in the house. Not having to answer to anybody. Not have to say where you are going, what you are doing, justify your spending, your time, etc etc.

    When you sons get older, say 15-16, you can take them aside and let them in on it, they can be your companions on your trips.

    Even if you had a CHOICE to go back to the 1930's or something, a traditional family, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

    Even if you have all the legal rights in the house, you still have to hear some fucking bitch, with her bitch granny voice, and her bitch face and her bitch attitude.

    The only time women are actually FUN is when you're dating/fucking them.
    Once you get into LTR, they turn into Dr Jekly and Mr Hyde.
    The sex stops. The nice feeling stop. Suddenly it's SERIOUS BUSINESS, we NEED a bigger house, we NEED this, we NEED that, we NEED to go to my parents.

    Yeah no, fuck your parents.
    Fuck your big house.
    Fuck your decorations.
    Fuck your bad food and your bad company and your bad breath and whining about how haaaaaard it is to be a mother.
    Fuck you. You're lucky to have me.
    I'm the value here, not you.

    So my conclusion is this is what a MGTOW life looks like :

    - You deal with women on your own terms with your eyes open
    - If you want kids, you have them, if not then you don't
    - You build a base of operations
    - You pump up your career
    - You juice
    - You eat healthy
    - You sportfuck women half your age
    - You collect every tool, every toy, every gun, every gadget you want
    - You fuck whenever you want
    - You take trips whenever you want
    - And you still manage to slam money into your account every month

    Even if they were to offer you a time machine to go back to Beaver Cleaver land
    Holy shit what a downgrade

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for helping me remember this.

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Lucky, Weren't you thinking about putting together a bee hive or two?
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    Lucky, Weren't you thinking about putting together a bee hive or two?
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    Yes, but I lack the knowledge (for now) and after talking to some bee-keepers and their experiences I came to the conclusion that I need some real training on that topic before I start my own hive.

    We have to many problems with bees now, just putting a bee-hive on my property very likely will not work and may even carry risks for the bee-hives next to me as there are quite some dangerous infections going around in my area that affect bees.

    For now I made some living spaces for solitary-bees that also do quite well regarding pollination and I created some living spaces for bumblebees .. which I have a lot of now.

    Those require no maintenance by me and so far they are doing great work.

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Right on. I didn't know that bees were all that.

    BTW, my little RV is fully loaded, tuned, washed & waxed. I'm heading out for at least 5 week, on a tour of Cali Oregon Washington. With the turn around point being Whistler Canada (for the mtn biking)

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    My life is quite a bit more work centric. I'm finishing up building a product which I do hope will make me a fair bit of money. The ISO's I work with have already told me that there are people who actually want to use it and it has been well reviewed. I have a consulting gig that keeps me busy approx 40 hrs a week and a second consulting gig that I will be doing off hours for the rest of the year. I'm up to making almost 200k/year starting this month and hope to have a nice house paid off by the time I turn 40. After that I save for retirement and other stuff.

    I like work because I like building things. I used to party way too hard when I was younger and can't do it anymore so I focus on work. I prefer a tame, simple life. Not much of a traveler and don't have any materialism left in me because the red pill freed me from that. What's funny is that I still find the time to a work out everyday.

    Here's my list of things I'm about to splurge on:

    http://www.nvidia.com/gtx-700-graphi...s/gtx-titan-z/

    https://www.eq3.com/ca/en/productdet...html#1012.3578

    And I have no one to whine at me and tell me that I'm wasting money. I work hard for my money and I will do with it as I please. I've toyed with the idea of a fast car (because I actually love fast cars) in the near future but I'm concerned that it's the sort of thing that paints a nice sized target between your shoulder blades when you're unmarried.

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    I asked these guys your question, they got back to me promptly.

    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss View Post
    For me it would hopefully be a job I enjoy which pays decently. A small house in a small town with plenty of rural areas around me. A good gaming PC, a comfy chair and bed and a good internet connection would pretty much be all I'd need. I can play video games, watch films and TV, read, write, learn and discuss all of these things on forums such as this. A small circle of friends would be nice as well but they would have to be similar to me.

    You just described pretty much what I hope my future life will be. With also traveling a decent amount to the mountains to do mountaineering activities (if I don't live there) - white water rafting, hiking, rock climbing, mountain biking, etc.
    I want the small house and a decent PC, but I also want to stay really active and fit, like I do now except instead of just going to the gym, I want to do more activities that are fun that I can't do much now since I don't have the funds and I'm in college. (like join a running, cycling, paddle-boarding, windsurfing or kayaking club)

    I'd also like to add that I'd like one of those nice tiny houses - the ones that look like log cabins with a front and back porch. Only a bathroom, living room, small kitchen and a bedroom downstairs and a small bedroom upstairs (for when my parents or sister visit since we're all really close, or when friends want to crash).
    They run around 60-80K, but they are super luxurious, just small. I mean, chances are I'm not going to be able to afford a decent size home that is built really well, like out of stone or brick like the old houses, but I will probably be able to afford a small version of that. I want my house built like a solid block.

    Also, I'd like to live on a bit of land. Depending on my job and where I have to live - I'd either live in a rural area with a decent chunk of land, or in the suburbs and purchase two lots so I have more yard, then just grow a bunch of trees around it for privacy.

    My ideal location is to live on a lake or river in the woods but it'll probably be way too expensive. Maybe something to hope for in retirement if I live that long.

    I also want at least one dog. But knowing me and my love of animals I'll probably wind up with 2 or 3 and maybe some guinea piggies and a rabbit or something. Ideally I'd love to have my own cow and hog but I won't have time or land to take care of them so meh.

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    I know this isn't an answer to your question but this part here caught my interest:

    Quote Originally Posted by ikbenrein View Post
    where you derive your identity and self-worth from? (instead of I am a man who provides for a woman and that is good because society says so).
    Are there really some men here who, or who used to derive their self worth as men by providing for a female?

    I'm asking because it sounds so pathetic and unmanly to me and I find it hard to believe that anyone would associate such behavior (of being a provider for a female) with his manhood.

    I have always associated my manhood with self-control, being strong (both mentally and physically) and independent, so this is really strange to me.

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I know this isn't an answer to your question but this part here caught my interest:



    Are there really some men here who, or who used to derive their self worth as men by providing for a female?

    I'm asking because it sounds so pathetic and unmanly to me and I find it hard to believe that anyone would associate such behavior (of being a provider for a female) with his manhood.

    I have always associated my manhood with self-control, being strong (both mentally and physically) and independent, so this is really strange to me.
    This is a place where men come to learn to derive their self-worth on their own terms, rather as a reflection of Society's approval or how well they treat their Princess.

    Since time immemorial - or "time immoral" as one wag put it - adulthood has been conflated with breeder-hood. Many societies had a special ceremony to accept their pubescent children into adulthood, for example the "bar mitzvah" for Jewish boys; we've also seen (and discussed in another recent thread) the Victorian notion of conflating "manhood" with stepping up to "manly responsibilities," i.e. marriage and children. Women had "womanly responsibilities" to embrace as well - i.e. "Lie back and think of England," cleaving only unto her lawfully wedded husband, and taking care of the house and children while he went out to earn the family's bread. Nowadays, of course, they call that "Patriarchy."

    Women have cast aside the "shared/complementary responsibility" model of societal behavior. They have smashed it, shattered it, burned it, shit and pissed on the ashes. And they have the unmitigated gall to try to shame men, who choose to live their own way just as women demand to live as they please, as "Peter Pan" over-aged children - because we decline to fall in harness as their plow-horses.

    Karl, your benchmarks for manhood are good, but I would add that a man is responsible for his acts, his deeds, his debts, his promises, his words, and himself. That does not include any requirement to be "responsible" for, or to, a "personal Princess."
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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Lucky austrian.
    Will you marry me?

    Come on, it will be different because I am a guy!

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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Thanks guys for this thread. I wish it would get stickied. This is better motivation to work hard and succeed than any garbage about having a wife and kid. I am totally inspired.
    Thanks again!

    Edit: thanks for "stickying" this!
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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaiah4:1 View Post
    Lucky austrian.
    Will you marry me?

    Come on, it will be different because I am a guy!
    If they come up with a horrible "Bachelor Tax" .. I will be the first to marry another guy

    Anyway .. another little update on the good MGTOW life.

    So I was in Finnland this week (never been there before) and as usual I had to try everything new that I could get my hands on.

    So .. the first thing that caught my eye when I was waiting for my connection flight further north was this sign..


    Never had Reindeer before so the choice was pretty obvious what to eat while waiting.

    Interesting mixture between deer and cow but very, very tasty though expensive (29,50,- € without drinks)

    As my target was a little off I had to change to a little prop-machine, never been in a prop-passenger plan but was less noisy than expected (and the seating was way better !)


    They say that they have 180.000 lakes in Finnland, I did not count them but I believe it now.


    There was a lot of ... erm .. nothing .. and than you drive around a corner and encounter an amusement park in the middle of nowhere ("nowhere" in austrian meaning)


    Hey .. guess where one of the original Bond cars has landed ?


    Nicely restored living home of a famous Finnish writer


    Took a ride into the wilderness ... (in austrian meaning again)


    Too .... shoot some clay .. I am kinda country boy myself so I liked that activity consisting of shooting and some nice beer afterwards.




    Of course I had to try the "catch of the day" and other goodies !


    Good times .. and finally a last good laugh when heading home


    Came home, mowed the lawn, slept for quite some time.

    No nagging, no questions where I have been, what I have done, blabla, ... short

    GOOD MGTOW LIVE
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    Re: So what does a good MGTOW life look like?

    Just had to post this lui Marco video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDFPySaN0Kc


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