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    Maintaining frame in a blue pilled world.

    Growing up this used to be my Achilles heel. I never had much luck with women so I would tend to get tense, anxious and lonely whenever I see couples around my vicinity. Valentine's Days were the worst days for it highlights couples and highlights single people even more. I have managed to truly get over that and feel indifferent about it all and it actually feels amazing when you don't really give a fuck around the people near you.

    To me it's just nothing, I can walk down the street in confidence, even amongst several couple and feel sure about myself because hey, how long are those unions they're in gonna last anyway? Even though it doesn't annoy me anymore, I still find it cheesy when couples refer to each other with their cheesy nicknames and overdone romantics caught up in the bliss of the illusion of "love". I can't help but to slightly laugh about it because that won't be me. I've never been nurtured with romance so I wouldn't reciprocate with a woman with those feelings even if she had strong feelings for me. When I went to lunch at Shake Shack on the 14th of February, half of the place filled with couples, all I did was focus on my food. One of the waitresses showed up, wished me a happy Valentine's Day and engaged in some small talk with me. The old me would've been over the moon of having a chick come up and talk to me but this time I didn't care too much. In my mind I was like "Don't you have a job to do? Lemme eat in peace."

    My indifference has become more attractive to women, as opposed to acting too eager and thirsty. Women are so backasswards, giving attention to those that barely give them any. After learning the concept of the red pill and getting some of my frustrations out of the way, the best course in life is to always be comfortable with yourself while at the same time, maintaining the best for yourself, not for anyone else but for your own. I used to be too anxious about appeasing to others, I spent little time respecting myself. That's how I manage to maintain my frame. Put yourself first and only give your energy to those who are willing to give the same to you.

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    Re: Maintaining frame in a blue pilled world.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaydenJazz View Post
    Growing up this used to be my Achilles heel. I never had much luck with women so I would tend to get tense, anxious and lonely whenever I see couples around my vicinity. Valentine's Days were the worst days for it highlights couples and highlights single people even more. I have managed to truly get over that and feel indifferent about it all and it actually feels amazing when you don't really give a fuck around the people near you.

    To me it's just nothing, I can walk down the street in confidence, even amongst several couple and feel sure about myself because hey, how long are those unions they're in gonna last anyway? Even though it doesn't annoy me anymore, I still find it cheesy when couples refer to each other with their cheesy nicknames and overdone romantics caught up in the bliss of the illusion of "love". I can't help but to slightly laugh about it because that won't be me. I've never been nurtured with romance so I wouldn't reciprocate with a woman with those feelings even if she had strong feelings for me. When I went to lunch at Shake Shack on the 14th of February, half of the place filled with couples, all I did was focus on my food. One of the waitresses showed up, wished me a happy Valentine's Day and engaged in some small talk with me. The old me would've been over the moon of having a chick come up and talk to me but this time I didn't care too much. In my mind I was like "Don't you have a job to do? Lemme eat in peace."

    My indifference has become more attractive to women, as opposed to acting too eager and thirsty. Women are so backasswards, giving attention to those that barely give them any. After learning the concept of the red pill and getting some of my frustrations out of the way, the best course in life is to always be comfortable with yourself while at the same time, maintaining the best for yourself, not for anyone else but for your own. I used to be too anxious about appeasing to others, I spent little time respecting myself. That's how I manage to maintain my frame. Put yourself first and only give your energy to those who are willing to give the same to you.

    Ahhhh yes Grasshopper, you have learned your MGTOW lessons well. You are ready to walk the earth in peace and prosper.


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    Re: Maintaining frame in a blue pilled world.

    One thing I have found over the years on MGTOW path is the blue pill indoctrination and system actively seeks to create a void in men. The sadder reality is the more you adopt the blue pill thinking and feminine ideology the greater the void becomes.

    For a man - his greatest weapon is his attention. You learn to control it and the next step in life is cherishing and loving solitude.

    I have grown a lot as a man by simply having the quiet and peace away from women, away from blue pilled men, and finally facing the slow and at times painful process to accept myself in a reality that will always work to subvert my masculinity at whims of a lesser beings.

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    Re: Maintaining frame in a blue pilled world.

    I remember walking into a Denny's once and the waitress looked at me and said, "Happy Valentine's Day." Then she added, "It's probably just another day to you, isn't it?"

    It made me sad, Jayden, for all the same reasons you described. At that time the entire world was blue pilled and the manginas and simps used to deride computers as useless and expensive toys only. If it happened to me today I would counter with the statement,"Everyday is a great day for me. I save so much money breaking up with my girlfriends right before Valentine's Day, Christmas, and their birthdays. I'm going to Cabo next week. I'll show you the pictures when I get back." Then...I would.
    "Don't follow in my footsteps. I stepped in something."

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    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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    Re: Maintaining frame in a blue pilled world.

    "I have managed to truly get over that and feel indifferent about it all and it actually feels amazing when you don't really give a fuck around the people near you ...

    My indifference has become more attractive to women, as opposed to acting too eager and thirsty. After learning the concept of the red pill and getting some of my frustrations out of the way, the best course in life is to always be comfortable with yourself while at the same time, maintaining the best for yourself, not for anyone else but for your own. I used to be too anxious about appeasing to others, I spent little time respecting myself. That's how I manage to maintain my frame. Put yourself first and only give your energy to those who are willing to give the same to you."

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    "One thing I have found over the years on MGTOW path is the blue pill indoctrination and system actively seeks to create a void in men. The sadder reality is the more you adopt the blue pill thinking and feminine ideology the greater the void becomes.

    For a man - his greatest weapon is his attention. You learn to control it and the next step in life is cherishing and loving solitude.

    I have grown a lot as a man by simply having the quiet and peace away from women, away from blue pilled men, and finally facing the slow and at times painful process to accept myself in a reality that will always work to subvert my masculinity at whims of a lesser beings."

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    Thank you, gentlemen. These particular section / posts really resonate with me. The part about man's greatest weapon being his attention is truly gold. I don't think I've heard that stated before. Those who would beggar anything from us - our time, money, interest, affection - would seek our attention from which everything flows. I have heard 'energy goes where attention flows' which feels true but has less impact (IMO) than how BilBoRing put it.

    Being self-determined and self-directed means claiming ownership over ourselves. JaydenJazz's point about the world seeking to create (and expand) a void within us is really true. This is the basis of 'marketing,' right? Convince the customer they just can't live happily without this thing then find the most creative(read: underhanded) ways to get them to buy it/rent it/lease it. The push for marriage, companionship, and all the hoopla around holidays that must be spent with a significant other come from this perception of lack of void.

    I know when I was very actively feeling a void within myself and it lasted for many years. But ultimately, through enough pain I started to investigate my inner being and I was blessed to experience a kind of 'radiant emptiness' and realize I had never been empty, but what I was full of (no, not sh*t I hope!) was something palpable yet nearly indescribable. Peace, joy, understanding - contentment. 'The peace beyond all understanding.' My true Self which is the same Self of which we are all fashioned. It was and is available always, and I felt I had to run away or go to something or someone else to get it.

    I had duped myself into placing my happiness in someone else's hands - an action which doomed me to dissatisfaction each time I did it. On the positive side, when taken for what each moment offers, engaging with others simply and honestly (and to demand the same) can yield very satisfying connections. What arises must also pass away, so holding on to the illusion of permanence - attachment/clinging - can only cause suffering. We are freeing ourselves of those false premises to see reality as it is. I believe Life is more inherently good than anything else, it is full of opportunity provided we practice discernment. By saying 'no' enough we create space for a 'yes' that truly aligns with our deepest Self.

    To be at home in one's skin is the greatest gift. It seems men are more designed for this but some rare women (and my mother lives a very monastic lifestyle as she did before meeting my Dad) are too. Very very rare I'd say, and probably more of prior generations. In this new hyper-technologically-driven / interconnected world we need to make even stronger efforts as men to stay connected to our souls and nature is our best ally in this.

    I love the works of Rainer Marie Rilke and this essay (a letter sent to a young friend seeking his advice) is particularly impactful for me. He speaks of trusting in Things (nature) and 'loving the questions as much as the answers.'

    https://www.carrothers.com/rilke4.htm

    P.S. I wanted to add, since the post was about maintaining frame, that I really appreciate class movie actors like Clint Eastwood, Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant - perhaps Grant most of all. He was so self-possessed and you can see the delight in his eyes as he's doing something and seems to take everything very lightly. 'Holiday' is one of my favorite of his movies and quite red-pill. I find Katherine Hepburn very charming (and them in 'Philadelphia' with Jimmy Stewart is also a delight). I also have a weakness for redheads!
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